YAK has been such a fail, after he was drafted I think it set the club back another 5 years.
- manvanfan

I wouldn't give up on Yak just yet.

They only drafted 1 Defender in the first round since 2010 (Nurse) the rest have been forwards. It's really hard to say "who" they should have drafted because if they would have drafted different players they could have been drafting at different places in the standings.
- manvanfan

Yeah, no


And Let me enlighten you then


actually, they've drafted 2 in the first round.
Klefbom and nurse.


using the guys in the mix for the top pick over the years,

2010 - gudbranson/fowler over hall ?
2011- Larsson over nuge? Drafted klefbom at 19 that year as well.
2012- Murray over yaks?
2013- nurse
2014 - Haydn Fleury over draisaitl?
2015- mcdavid
2016- puljujarvi


The only one where one they missed is Ryan Murray. But even then, Murrays been a bandaid pretty much his entire career and would've changed very little thus far. Especially early where yaks led rooks in goals -points but Murray missed the whole season.

I'll even mayyybe debate nuge/larsson. But again, larsson would've changed nothing til maybe this past season. And even with that said, they needed a 1c at that point every bit as much as a 1d


It's a bs narrative that most people don't bother to think beyond what they read some no nothing blogger say

I wouldn't give up on Yak just yet.
- bloatedmosquito

They have so many scoring forwards, they need a 200 foot player. A Power forward.

I wouldn't give up on Yak just yet.
- bloatedmosquito

He needs a new team and maybe he will have a chance.....being a "sniper" and playing on McDavids wing he barely scored any goals...needs a fresh start for sure to perhaps boost some confidence

Umm, I'll take ryan murray over yakopov for 500 Alex
- neem55

This past season Murray separated himself abit

But he still had some hiccups under torts who benched him

And was a bandaud for much of his first 2-3 seasons.

I can agree to taking Murray instead though. But overstating the difference hedve made thus far is flat out wrong

I wouldn't give up on Yak just yet.
- bloatedmosquito

I think whichever team that gets him is probably gonna win the deal hugely

Even if we manage to get a decent asset for him

He's not done yet, but he's certainly got some warts

This past season Murray separated himself abit

But he still had done hiccups

And was a bandaud for much of his first 2-3 seasons.

I can agree to taking Murray instead though. But overstating the difference hedve made this far is flat out wrong
- Ihateallofu

The fact that you can make a case for both players suggests neither one has done anything to seperate one from the other...now say Reilly or Trouba....Dumba.....fair to say Edmonton and Columbus messed that draft up

Yeah, no


And Let me enlighten you then


And actually no, they've drafted 2 in the first round.
Klefbom and nurse.


using the guys in the mix for the top pick over the years,

2010 - gudbranson/fowler over hall ?
2011- Larsson over nuge? Drafted klefbom at 19 that year as well.
2012- Murray over yaks?
2013- nurse
2014 - Haydn Fleury over draisaitl
2015- mcdavid
2016- puljujarvi


The only one where one they missed is Ryan Murray. But even then, Murrays been a bandaid pretty much his entire career and would've changed very little thus far. Especially early where yaks led rooks in goals -points but Murray missed the whole season.

I'll even mayyybe debate nuge/larsson. But again, larsson would've changed nothing til maybe this past season. And even with that said, they needed a 1c at that point every bit as much as a 1d


It's a bs narrative that most people don't bother to think beyond what they read some no nothing blogger say
- Ihateallofu

It's really not bs. and why: there's also a second round in which you've had very high picks in, which almost of of those same years were also spent on forwards. This year is no different, with Chiarelli not picking one until round 3 (although Niemalienen looks to be a very good pick IMO). You've picked around 13-3 forwards to d in the last ten years.
Canucks unfortunetly have done the same and so now we have bare cupboards too. I'm glad we finally selected one this year. The difference being, we've been a playoff team and haven't been rebuilding for 10 years.

Yeah, no


And Let me enlighten you then


And actually no, they've drafted 2 in the first round.
Klefbom and nurse.


using the guys in the mix for the top pick over the years,

2010 - gudbranson/fowler over hall ?
2011- Larsson over nuge? Drafted klefbom at 19 that year as well.
2012- Murray over yaks?
2013- nurse
2014 - Haydn Fleury over draisaitl
2015- mcdavid
2016- puljujarvi


The only one where one they missed is Ryan Murray. But even then, Murrays been a bandaid pretty much his entire career and would've changed very little thus far. Especially early where yaks led rooks in goals -points but Murray missed the whole season.

I'll even mayyybe debate nuge/larsson. But again, larsson would've changed nothing til maybe this past season. And even with that said, they needed a 1c at that point every bit as much as a 1d


It's a bs narrative that most people don't bother to think beyond what they read some no nothing blogger say
- Ihateallofu

Enlighten me? You let it be known your an idiot that's about it.

I think whichever team that gets him is probably gonna win the deal hugely

Even if we manage to get a decent asset for him

He's not done yet, but he's certainly got some warts
- Ihateallofu

I think the same can be said of Murray, some guys just take a biut longer to come along. Last year was Murray's best. He will benefit from Jones taking the #1 spot.

The fact that you can make a case for both players suggests neither one has done anything to seperate one from the other...now say Reilly or Trouba....Dumba.....fair to say Edmonton and Columbus messed that draft up
- RatedR80

Trouba would be my pick In a redraft for sure

But neither (especially trouba) was in the mix for first overall by any scout or gm. It was Murray/yaks /galchenyuk.
So it's not a miss per se

Enlighten me? You let it be known your an idiot that's about it.
- manvanfan

Empty insults

You made clear your ignorance and got schooled.

You're not alone though. So don't take it so badly.
There's tons of people that dont really know what they're talking about or don't bother to think critically beyond what they read

It's really not bs. and why: there's also a second round in which you've had very high picks in, which almost of of those same years were also spent on forwards. This year is no different, with Chiarelli not picking one until round 3 (although Niemalienen looks to be a very good pick IMO). You've picked around 13-3 forwards to d in the last ten years.
Canucks unfortunetly have done the same and so now we have bare cupboards too. I'm glad we finally selected one this year. The difference being, we've been a playoff team and haven't been rebuilding for 10 years.
- neem55

It isn't even about just forward or defence. It's about a power forward, a 200 foot winger, shut down center. All parts that make up good teams.

It's really not bs. and why: there's also a second round in which you've had very high picks in, which almost of of those same years were also spent on forwards. This year is no different, with Chiarelli not picking one until round 3 (although Niemalienen looks to be a very good pick IMO). You've picked around 13-3 forwards to d in the last ten years.
Canucks unfortunetly have done the same and so now we have bare cupboards too. I'm glad we finally selected one this year. The difference being, we've been a playoff team and haven't been rebuilding for 10 years.
- neem55

To be fair we dont know what Chiarellis plan was yesterday before Columbus gifted us a Finn and Chiarelli sure wasnt going to turn that down.....plenty of times for both teams to do something the offseason is young

I think the same can be said of Murray, some guys just take a biut longer to come along. Last year was Murray's best. He will benefit from Jones taking the #1 spot.
- neem55

Agreed

He can play his quiet game and be effective letting jones be the show

But yeah, he shoulda been the pick over yaks. Even if I still believe yaks can be a very effective nhl'er in the right situation

To be fair we dont know what Chiarellis plan was yesterday before Columbus gifted us a Finn and Chiarelli sure wasnt going to turn that down.....plenty of times for both teams to do something the offseason is young
- RatedR80

I agree, I think Chiarelli was picking d if Puujarvi (oops I mean pulujarvi, must freak you out to have that similar name after that bust!) doesn't slide.

Empty insults

You made clear your ignorance and got schooled.

You're not alone though. So don't take it so badly.
There's tons of people that dont really know what they're talking about or don't bother to think critically beyond what they read
- Ihateallofu

Just look at your team and see where they have been for the last decade with how many first overall picks but you're going to come in here and tell me they got it right?

Trouba would be my pick In a redraft for sure

But neither (especially trouba) was in the mix for first overall by any scout or gm. It was Murray/yaks /galchenyuk.
So it's not a miss per se
- Ihateallofu

Its all hindsight in the end but fair to say we certainly didnt draft a future player we can build around

It's really not bs. and why: there's also a second round in which you've had very high picks in, which almost of of those same years were also spent on forwards. This year is no different, with Chiarelli not picking one until round 3 (although Niemalienen looks to be a very good pick IMO). You've picked around 13-3 forwards to d in the last ten years.
Canucks unfortunetly have done the same and so now we have bare cupboards too. I'm glad we finally selected one this year. The difference being, we've been a playoff team and haven't been rebuilding for 10 years.
- neem55

You don't pass on Puljujarvi. He was gifted to us.
It's crazy that cbj did.
And speaking of 200' games like the other guy mentioned. That's exactly his game apparently


The oilers took a bunch of defenders this year.
And last year

And judging by the chances of playing In the nhl beyond the first, it's small so 2nd or 3rd round isn't a huge difference.
Davidson in the 5th is looking like a beauty ....

Either way, I just hate the silly first round narrative. It's shortsighted and not informed

I agree, I think Chiarelli was picking d if Puujarvi (oops I mean pulujarvi, must freak you out to have that similar name after that bust!) doesn't slide.
- neem55

It was well known before the draft that he wanted either Finn so when one fell on his lap he pulled the trigger...as far as Vancouvers draft it seems to be a pretty mixed reaction...really seemed like they were gunning for Dubois

Who's next in the London pipeline?
- manvanfan

Who knows?
They always end up with the best players

They owned the rights to zach werenski as well last year.

Just look at your team and see where they have been for the last decade with how many first overall picks but you're going to come in here and tell me they got it right?
- manvanfan

Well, getting it right and the alternatives being right are certainly not the same thing

It's not simple cause and effect like you assumed.

Thing is, throwing insults and laughie faces aren't gonna change how clear you made it that you were deeply misinformed

Who knows?
They always end up with the best players

They owned the rights to zach werenski as well last year.
- classic321

Crazy program

Considering it's a league where u need to retool every few years, it's crazy how successful they are

It was well known before the draft that he wanted either Finn so when one fell on his lap he pulled the trigger...as far as Vancouvers draft it seems to be a pretty mixed reaction...really seemed like they were gunning for Dubois
- RatedR80

Agreed, definitely were looking for Dubois I think too as we need center's and D. I'm pretty happy with Juolevi myself, I trust JB that he's the best d in the draft.

It isn't even about just forward or defence. It's about a power forward, a 200 foot winger, shut down center. All parts that make up good teams.
- manvanfan

In all fairness, when you're drafting as high as the Oilers always do, you have to take BPA.

Their failure has been their reluctance to trade any of those redundant top end selections and young star prospects for more complementary types. They very likely could have traded a Nugent-Hopkins for a Trouba or Dumba type before they gave him a $6MM AAV contract and a gold card in the underachievers club.