I'm not sure why Ottawa has't been more connected to the Fowler sweeps. Left handed shot/decent 2 way d-man would be great for our 3rd pairing. 4 mill is a little steep, but not far off what it will cost to get a legit d-man to solidify the blueline.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

I'm pretty sure that if you're 'in' on Fowler coming off of a season where he played nearly 23min/gp on a 1st place team, then you're not coming at it from the perspective of him playing on the 3rd pairing of a team that missed the playoffs. I don't know what Anaheim would be expecting in return, but the price would be extremely high - particularly with multiple teams already in play.

Plus, am I wrong that adding Fowler would seriously complicate expansion draft planning? Each team basically only gets to protect 3 defencemen (unless you want to only protect 4 forwards), and they're already set to be protecting Karlsson, Ceci, and Phaneuf. So not only is Fowler signed for just 2 years after which it's doubtful that they'd be able to re-sign him, but adding him might even cost them another key defenceman in less than a year's time.

I'm of the opinion that Fowler and his price doesn't really fit properly. He'll cost a lot to bring in. He'll make the pairings awkward, and he will complicate the expansion draft situation. I'm not sure why people think the Sens would protect Methot. He is over 30 with a fairly big cap hit and a history of injuries. You leave him unprotected assuming he doesn't get picked up. If he does, you sign a comparable FA. Methot has had degraded performance stats this past year or two. He wouldn't be at the top of a lot of analysts charts.

I wonder how much the Forsberg contract plays into the Hoffman contract talks. They are close in games played ( Hoff 186 / Forsberg 182 ) and goals scored ( Hoff 59 / Fosberg 60 ). Forsberg is bigger ( not taller ), younger, and has put up more assists. That means that he will get more. How much more, I wonder? $6M for Forsberg equates to what? $5M? $4M for Hoffman?

Plus, am I wrong that adding Fowler would seriously complicate expansion draft planning? Each team basically only gets to protect 3 defencemen (unless you want to only protect 4 forwards), and they're already set to be protecting Karlsson, Ceci, and Phaneuf. So not only is Fowler signed for just 2 years after which it's doubtful that they'd be able to re-sign him, but adding him might even cost them another key defenceman in less than a year's time.
- khawk

Does anyone have a link to an authoritative source which outlines who Ottawa must protect due to contract status.
Phaneuf has a modified NTC / NMC where he can list 10 destination teams.
Methot has a modified NTC where he must list 20 destination teams.
Is is possible that we will be forced to protect these 2 players plus Karlsson as our 3 defencemen?

Dude don't want to poop on your parade, but you did first... Your team sucked, will continue to suck for years to come, even with your A++++++ prospects... you won't be in playoffs for another 3-4 years minimum. You overpaid your coach, and now you will try to overpay for Stammy. Great management team.
- PtotheY

This post is funny

Does anyone have a link to an authoritative source which outlines who Ottawa must protect due to contract status.
Phaneuf has a modified NTC / NMC where he can list 10 destination teams.
Methot has a modified NTC where he must list 20 destination teams.
Is is possible that we will be forced to protect these 2 players plus Karlsson as our 3 defencemen?
- SensFan25

There's been a lot of talk about this - the key difference appears to be "No-Movement" versus "No-Trade".

https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

No such qualifier is noted for players with a "No-Trade" clause.

Phaneuf has a NMC, and so I believe has to be protected by default. Guys like MacArthur and Methot have partial NTC, which from what I can see will make them eligible to be left exposed.

I wonder how much the Forsberg contract plays into the Hoffman contract talks. They are close in games played ( Hoff 186 / Forsberg 182 ) and goals scored ( Hoff 59 / Fosberg 60 ). Forsberg is bigger ( not taller ), younger, and has put up more assists. That means that he will get more. How much more, I wonder? $6M for Forsberg equates to what? $5M? $4M for Hoffman?
- MaxTLimit

EDIT .... changing my mind from what I posted earlier, based on the following....

Forsberg, 21 (8/13/94), led the Predators in goals (33) and points (64) for the second consecutive season during his sophomore campaign in 2015-16. His goal total tied the single-season franchise record and for 10th in the NHL, while his point total put him among the League’s Top 25. The 6-foot-1, 205-pound winger recently received two first-place nods and finished 10th in voting for the 2016 Selke Trophy – given to the NHL’s top defensive forward – while playing all 82 of Nashville’s contests for the second consecutive season.

so, Forsberg is bigger, younger, scores a few more goals and gets a few more points.... PLUS he projects to be Selke candidate....

based on that ...... I see Hoffman getting no more than $5M/year and more likely $4.5/year

There's been a lot of talk about this - the key difference appears to be "No-Movement" versus "No-Trade".

https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

No such qualifier is noted for players with a "No-Trade" clause.

Phaneuf has a NMC, and so I believe has to be protected by default. Guys like MacArthur and Methot have partial NTC, which from what I can see will make them eligible to be left exposed.
- khawk

Thanks.
It looks like Methot will be the odd man out as we will want to protect Karlsson and Ceci.
If we do add Fowler, then either Ceci or Phaneuf (if he waives no movement) or Fowler will be exposed.

Thanks.
It looks like Methot will be the odd man out as we will want to protect Karlsson and Ceci.
If we do add Fowler, then either Ceci or Phaneuf (if he waives no movement) or Fowler will be exposed.
- SensFan25

Anyone really want to risk losing one of Ceci or Fowler for nothing, based entirely on asking Phaneuf to waive his NMC to go play for an expansion team just one year after being involved in a controversial trade? I'm pretty sure they can try to improve their team over the summer in less destructive ways than that.

Still active conversations between Oilers and Avs. Probably no resolution until after July 1st.

Sens want to add a skilled left handed top six player.

As far as free agents go : they have spoken to Brouwer and Ladd's people. Still early but getting a feel for the ask.

They have also checked in on Stamkos' status and to see if there is interest at all from the players side. They haven't been told no yet but the belief is as many as 15 teams have already contacted them.

At the end of the day they will likely settle in on a bottom six guy with experience. And a 4-5 defenceman. They may make a pitch on Justin Schultz if he goes to market. Remember he was seriously considering Ottawa when entering the league.

New regime change makes it more difficult to get info. Will try to keep posting.

For me, Id prefer the Sens go for a more depth guy that they'd be okay with losing after this year when ( presumably ) they will have Chabot to bring up as a regular NHL guy.

I still think Campbell fits nicely. If he is willing to sign short term for a reasonable price, I'd like to have his experience and smarts back there with Wideman.

As far as free agents go : they have spoken to Brouwer and Ladd's people. Still early but getting a feel for the ask.
- Cup 06

Not holding my breath on Ladd. He's going to get a big payday, and evidence suggests Sens aren't looking that way.

I've long suggested Brouwer as a target for a #3RW ( he's a right shot ).

At the end of the day they will likely settle in on a bottom six guy with experience. And a 4-5 defenceman. They may make a pitch on Justin Schultz if he goes to market. Remember he was seriously considering Ottawa when entering the league.
- Cup 06

Think Campbell fits as a 4-5, but would likely spend most of the time on the bottom pairing.
Don't think Schultz is a fit.

So If signings go as expected / realistically possible:
Hoffman - Turris - Stone
MacArthur - Zibanejad - Ryan
Smith - Pageau - Brouwer
Puemple - Lazar - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phaneuf - Ceci
Campbell - Wideman
x - Claesson/Boro

That's not exactly as good as I'd like it to be, but it would be interesting to see what that line up can do healthy. What I like about it is that a single injury doesn't cause chaos. There are players who can fill in available for each position. What I don't like is that it expects peak performance of every spot to play up to what is needed. Turris has to be on his top game to be a good #1. Hoffman needs to be scoring to be a #1LW. MacArthur needs to be what he was to be a good #2LW. Pageau and Smith have to be close to as good as they were together last year to be a really good 3rd line. Questionable if that's possible when you have Brouwer instead of Stone on the other side...Their only saving grace would be lower competition when the top 2 lines face the top lines of other teams.

Ok kids tell me about Chiasson????

Ok kids tell me about Chiasson????
- geta02it

Has all the tools to be a decent 2nd or 3rd line power forward but completely incapable of putting his game together with any form of consistency. Will frustrate you more than anything.

Might be worth taking a flyer on.......but I'd steer clear if he wanted a 1-way deal

Now tell us about Patrick Sieloff

For me, Id prefer the Sens go for a more depth guy that they'd be okay with losing after this year when ( presumably ) they will have Chabot to bring up as a regular NHL guy.
I still think Campbell fits nicely. If he is willing to sign short term for a reasonable price, I'd like to have his experience and smarts back there with Wideman.
- MaxTLimit

Part of me wonders if the expansion draft might not increase the number of depth defencemen willing to take a 1-year deal, given that it would essentially exclude them from consideration in the expansion draft. If so, that would certainly play well into the Senators' hand, given that they're really just looking for a bridge player while the likes of Englund and Chabot become more NHL-ready.