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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:13 AM ET
This Lucas Neilsen guy has McLeod dropping to the Flyers at 18. If that happened I would be thrilled.
- J35Bacher

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:13 AM ET
who is your cemented top 6 at this point? i only count 5.
- sjk540


vinny retired and umberger got bought out...so i dont think we have anyone cemented anymore
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 24 @ 11:14 AM ET
Yeah they took Simmons and two Euros I really like.

More importantly, they didn't do something stupid.

- PhillySportsGuy


Nor will Hextall.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:14 AM ET
I believe Schenn tops out at 60 points. Id be surprised if he is a regular at 60. He's also not the type to make others around him better so his point totals inflate his true value. The idea of trading Schenn would be to find a guy who can reach his peak when the young defenseman reach theirs. That way the forwards are staggered in age instead of all of them being late 20s early 30s when the defensemen are mid 20s.
- PhillySportsGuy


The way I view it is that if we do in fact trade Schenn in a deal that moves us up for a better center or LW prospect , we then have roughly 4.5-5.5 M plus the salary space we already have to sign through FA. Not necessarily a big fish FA, but say 2-3 guys that can fill our depth. Hell maybe we could even take a run at Okposo if we can also move Streit and Read in or after a Schenn trade. All of this is a lot of assuming and guessing though.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 11:14 AM ET
vinny retired and umberger got bought out...so i dont think we have anyone cemented anymore
- YuenglingJagr


maybe an answer to the question to follow?
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
who is your cemented top 6 at this point? i only count 5.
- sjk540

Lol I guess I only have 5 as well, my point is if you get yak for a 2nd you can juggle him around the lineup and see what happens.

I dont realistically think edm will trade him for a 2nd, but id give a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th for him. Think it could help the team in the short term with no long term repercussions.

Thats hexys goal this offseason isn't it? Get better now, but not at the expense of the future.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:16 AM ET
maybe an answer to the question to follow?
- sjk540


over
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:17 AM ET
Lol I guess I only have 5 as well, my point is if you get yak for a 2nd you can juggle him around the lineup and see what happens.

I dont realistically think edm will trade him for a 2nd, but id give a 2nd and a 3rd or 4th for him. Think it could help the team in the short term with no long term repercussions.

Thats hexys goal this offseason isn't it? Get better now, but not at the expense of the future.

- flyers4487


A Yak - Couts - Simmer/Jake line could be interesting
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
nice job on the pop culture reference
- YuenglingJagr

You talking about the movie?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Hope the Gudas signing doesn't prevent Hextall from bringing in a legit 25 goal scorer on July 1. Flyers desperately need another player who can put the puck in the net.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
I miss being entertained on days like this. I understand and respect patience, but damn I miss the excitement of knowing half the team would/could get traded.

Without it.. I just don't give a poop at all. Does this make me a bad person?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
Hope the Gudas signing doesn't prevent Hextall from bringing in a legit 25 goal scorer on July 1. Flyers desperately need another player who can put the puck in the net.
- PLindbergh31


what are your thoughts on trading/keeping schenn?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:23 AM ET
He'll be in Russia within 5 years
- PhillySportsGuy


That is as likely as anything. I can see him getting 20 goals and 40-some points on, say Las Vegas

But eventually, he is going to be gone
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:24 AM ET
I like the Gudas deal.

#saynotoYakupov

- Scoob


Couldn't of said best myself. Agreed on ALL points #saynotoYakupov

Either #3 overall or #18 is my prediction. I love that Bill mentioned McLeod, great size and that speed me likey. Everyone loves Logan Brown. Either of them become Flyers and I will do the robot. Top 3 pick and I will pull my pants down and wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.

Just hopping for a steady unsurprising draft weekend. Nothing to see here, move along.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:24 AM ET
I miss being entertained on days like this. I understand and respect patience, but damn I miss the excitement of knowing half the team would/could get traded.

Without it.. I just don't give a poop at all. Does this make me a bad person?

- MikesPillBottle


It makes you a Leafs fan
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:24 AM ET
I miss being entertained on days like this. I understand and respect patience, but damn I miss the excitement of knowing half the team would/could get traded.

Without it.. I just don't give a poop at all. Does this make me a bad person?

- MikesPillBottle

Trades will always be more exciting. I'm fine with staying at 18 if moving up costs too much. The 2nd round is where I would really like to move up.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:25 AM ET
no, just a 2nd for Yak. straight up, nothing else. i get the feeling some people just dont want him whatsoever, dont even want to give up a high draft pick for him.
- sjk540


A second? Sure, especially since they have two of them
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 11:25 AM ET
Couldn't of said best myself. Agreed on ALL points #saynotoYakupov

Either #3 overall or #18 is my prediction. I love that Bill mentioned McLeod, great size and that speed me likey. Everyone loves Logan Brown. Either of them become Flyers and I will do the robot. Top 3 pick and I will pull my pants down and wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.

Just hopping for a steady unsurprising draft weekend. Nothing to see here, move along.

- Glak18

Hopefully we can hold you to this. I would be over the moon if we got Brown.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 11:26 AM ET
what are your thoughts on trading/keeping schenn?
- YuenglingJagr


I'd like to keep Schenn at the right price. He's pretty streaky, but he had a solid year last year. I think he can be a consistent 25 goal scorer. Don't see a reason to trade away from an area that is a need.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
A Yak - Couts - Simmer/Jake line could be interesting
- arichardson22


It would be nice to see Jake have a shooter with him, maybe it would take some pressure off feeling he has to shoot a lot and let it come natural like 2 years ago. Sadly Yak is not that player, doesn't know where to go on the ice.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
I'd like to keep Schenn at the right price. He's pretty streaky, but he had a solid year last year. I think he can be a consistent 25 goal scorer. Don't see a reason to trade away from an area that is a need.
- PLindbergh31


aye
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 11:27 AM ET
Don't see a reason to trade away from an area that is a need.
- PLindbergh31


Maximize asset value?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:30 AM ET


okay i'm ready to learn all about all of the draft kids now
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:31 AM ET
okay i'm ready to learn all about all of the draft kids now
- -davies-


black book goes on sale at like 8 pm tonight
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:32 AM ET
okay i'm ready to learn all about all of the draft kids now
- -davies-

Too late Hexy is trading 18, moran next yrs first and schenn for #4, Yak, and Hall
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