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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 9:55 AM ET
Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier and Schenn. Five forwards who can produce offensively on a regular basis. I'm not interested in moving Schenn for a player who might not play next season (I'm not convinced Konecny is ready either) or might need a couple of seasons to develop through juniors and the minors. I'm not interested in moving our pick and one of our prized prospects before they've sniffed the NHL.

If Hextall does this, in my opinion, Hextall goes against patience, which he preaches.

- roenick97


I think you need to go back an rewatch some of last season. I'm not saying a trade is the answer but that core absolutely struggled to score consistently.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:57 AM ET
I think you need to go back an rewatch some of last season. I'm not saying a trade is the answer but that core absolutely struggled to score consistently.
- hereticpride

yea, but there were injuries that came into play. I think if we have scoring issues after this yr then we look to make some changes maybe.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 24 @ 9:57 AM ET
I think he'll take at least 1 goalie in Rounds 3-7. Right now, things look nice and rosy with Stolarz, Lyons, Sandstrom, Tomek, and Madsen, but none of them have yet to play 1 second of NHL hockey. Never a bad option to keep stocking that position bit by bit.
- jmatchett383

Murray round 4
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
I don't know what they could possibly see in Yak. I honestly think Ek is talking out his ass on that one.(which should surprise no one.)
- hereticpride


I mean, seriously -- what in the hell about Dave Hakstol makes anybody think that he'd have any interest in coaching Nail Yakupov?

I mean, come on. That humorless dude...who thinks he's trying to watch Yakupov running around and not scoring?

He scratched Matt Read. He scratched Sam Gagner. What makes anybody think that Nail Yakupov avoids that fate?

You're better off re-signing Gagner, if that's the case -- it could be that you squeeze 30-40 points out of him for minimal outlay in salary
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
Looking forward to today and this weekend. Not really sure what to expect with all the possible draft and movement options, but I'm confident Hexy will make the right choices. Can't wait to meet the newest members of the Flyers organization this weekend.

Tomfan365
Joined: 03.11.2013

Jun 24 @ 9:59 AM ET
agreed...i have the worlds smallest...






amount of interest in that deal

- YuenglingJagr



I see what you did there
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:01 AM ET
It's like the AMac of music.
- hereticpride


u cant be blaspheming this early in the day brotha
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:04 AM ET
No one thought Jones would drop to the Predators.
- J35Bacher


speaking of jones.....
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
I mean, seriously -- what in the hell about Dave Hakstol makes anybody think that he'd have any interest in coaching Nail Yakupov?

I mean, come on. That humorless dude...who thinks he's trying to watch Yakupov running around and not scoring?

He scratched Matt Read. He scratched Sam Gagner. What makes anybody think that Nail Yakupov avoids that fate?

You're better off re-signing Gagner, if that's the case -- it could be that you squeeze 30-40 points out of him for minimal outlay in salary

- AllInForFlyers



So if Hextall feels that moving Schenn, 18 and Sanehim for Yakupiv and number 4 do you get mad?

Everyone is stating Hextall will do the right thing for this team. What if that is what he thinks is the right thing?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
speaking of jones.....
- sjk540



People are going to go nuts when Schenn and a d prospect are traded tonight.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:08 AM ET
u cant be blaspheming this early in the day brotha
- sjk540

Next up you guys are going to tell me you like Sublime too.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:09 AM ET
I mean, seriously -- what in the hell about Dave Hakstol makes anybody think that he'd have any interest in coaching Nail Yakupov?

I mean, come on. That humorless dude...who thinks he's trying to watch Yakupov running around and not scoring?

He scratched Matt Read. He scratched Sam Gagner. What makes anybody think that Nail Yakupov avoids that fate?

You're better off re-signing Gagner, if that's the case -- it could be that you squeeze 30-40 points out of him for minimal outlay in salary

- AllInForFlyers


i wonder what he would sign for, seemed to fit right in, performed decent for a 3rd line guy and can play the pp. id seriously think about trying him on a line with G and simmonds, keeping schenn coots and voracek together, and trying to do something to make the bottom 6 better. VDV needs to go, indifferent on White, PEB i like. cousins laughton and raffl make a solid 3rd line. maybe dont resign white, move read to the 4th line with peb, and bring up Leier or maybe sign a guy like sceviour or chiasson for that 4th line winger spot.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 10:10 AM ET
People are going to go nuts when Schenn and a d prospect are traded tonight.


- J35Bacher


i was thinking offer sheet actually haha, but i think i could dig that.

ghost - jones
mdz - gudas
schultz - streit/provy

sign me up
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:10 AM ET
People are going to go nuts when Schenn and a d prospect are traded tonight.


- J35Bacher

I think it's 50/50 Schenn gets moved. I would be pretty shocked if Morin or Sanhiem was moved. They would have to LOVE somebody in the top 10. And remember the Flyers were reportedly the only team not to interview anyone projected to go top 10 at the combine.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 24 @ 10:12 AM ET
This is going to be a fun day. Can't wait to see Hexy maneuver through the options he has.

Only bad thing is I'll be having to keep up via my phone as I'll be at the Dave Matthews Band show tonight.

- dragonoffrost



DMB would be okay if D would let someone else sing.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 10:12 AM ET
People are going to go nuts when Schenn and a d prospect are traded tonight.


- J35Bacher

It would be a stupid thing to do. I really really doubt that happenes. If trades happen it will be shuffling around picks, and maybe moving streit.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:13 AM ET
i was thinking offer sheet actually haha, but i think i could dig that.

ghost - jones
mdz - gudas
schultz - streit/provy

sign me up

- sjk540



Maybe Hextall threatens Jarko.

"Jarko, I will offsheet the poop out of Seth Jones unless you take the deal I offer for number 3."
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 24 @ 10:14 AM ET
People are going to go nuts when Schenn and a d prospect are traded tonight.


- J35Bacher


Depends for what...
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 10:15 AM ET
It would be a stupid thing to do. I really really doubt that happenes. If trades happen it will be shuffling around picks, and maybe moving streit.
- flyers4487



Why is it stupid?

What if Hextall and the Flyers feel that selling high on Schenn now to get someone they think will be better is a bad idea.

It all depends on what the Flyers think.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:15 AM ET
It would be a stupid thing to do. I really really doubt that happenes. If trades happen it will be shuffling around picks, and maybe moving streit.
- flyers4487

Streit is much more likely to move at the deadline but if a team comes calling tonight I'd be pretty damn thrilled.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 10:15 AM ET
Maybe Hextall threatens Jarko.

"Jarko, I will offsheet the poop out of Seth Jones unless you take the deal I offer for number 3."

- J35Bacher


the same dude that almost got a draft pick for saying who he will pick?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:17 AM ET
So if Hextall feels that moving Schenn, 18 and Sanehim for Yakupiv and number 4 do you get mad?

Everyone is stating Hextall will do the right thing for this team. What if that is what he thinks is the right thing?

- J35Bacher


I have no problems disagreeing with moves -- it's a message board, right? Opinion is OK; time tells what the right call was.

But for that proposed trader, yeah I would be frustrated because what do you get out of that that you don't already have?

Seriously, what do you get?

A worse forward in Yakupov, another prospect like Sanheim, and you lose the right to pick at 18. What are you getting out of it that makes it worth doing?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:18 AM ET


congrats buddy
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 10:19 AM ET
I have no problems disagreeing with moves -- it's a message board, right? Opinion is OK; time tells what the right call was.

But for that proposed trader, yeah I would be frustrated because what do you get out of that that you don't already have?

Seriously, what do you get?

A worse forward in Yakupov, another prospect like Sanheim, and you lose the right to pick at 18. What are you getting out of it that makes it worth doing?

- AllInForFlyers

If it were RNH over Yak I'd feel quite a bit better about doing it. Zero interest in Yak.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
Great blog today.

I feel like Keller and Brown will go in the top 12 so the cost of moving up would be prohibitive.
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