Another big day where hockeybuzz doesn't work.
- Flyers1218

Works fine for me.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.
- PhillySportsGuy

Yakupov for a washing machine perhaps?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.
- PhillySportsGuy

Jimmy Johns or Quizno's?

Jordan Kyrou interests me if he slips to our 2nd -- one of a handful of my realistic favorites. Immensely skilled. He only had 51 points in 65 games, but he barely saw PP usage and was on a low scoring team. Just 6 PP points. So he had 45 ES points. For comparison:

Jones: 39pts in 63.

McLeod: 42pts in 57

Brown 45pts in 59

Jimmy Johns or Quizno's?
- Tomahawk

What happened to pizza?

Do nothing please.

Yakupov for a washing machine perhaps?
- hereticpride

Mike Harrington
‏@BNHarrington
Can confirm @NHLbyMatty report that #Sabres have been kicking tires on Nail Yakupov. #Oilers

- Mononoke

So. I get it. I've read it. I just want to make sure I am saying this as nicely as I can, because I disagree with this premise strongly:

I'm not saying you can't trade Schenn. Nor am I entirely opposed to maximizing value on an asset. But I cannot express how strongly I disagree with the idea of trading him for, in essence, a draft pick.

Just say Schenn is what he has been, 40-50 points. Say the 59 points is a complete aberration. He is more 18-20 goals, 25-30 assists. That's what he is.

But we're saying that we went through five years of development for that, missing the playoffs twice as he developed and was a factor in us missing it, only to trade him for another draft pick in hopes that draft pick might be...what, exactly?

I'm serious. I need it spelled out to me -- we're trading the known quantity for an unknown. Not another developed asset at a different position. Not a roster player.

But a draft pick who we would then wait years to see if they can a) play, b) play as well as Schenn, and c) be better than Schenn.

I'm sorry. I realize it's opinions, and we all have them. But that is something I am unwilling to do. Because if the best I have to root for is five-year rolling cycles of development in search of "not too hot, not too cold, just right," for 23-25 year olds, that is simply unacceptable.

Because at some point, you have to build a team. You can't build a team around prospects and hope for the future, all while plugging in the Teddy Purcells of the world for a year here, two years there, while throwing more darts at the board and then bringing a Brett Connolly while the 2016 darts are thrown, then when they don't work out in 2020, we sell them for 2024.

At what point do you say "the 50 point guy is good enough," and let's address things we don't have instead of creating more holes?

When does that happen?
- AllInForFlyers

First of all, I agree 100% with everything you stated here. I'm just amazed at how you came around on Schenn.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.
- PhillySportsGuy

Probably what they will eat for dinner

- Mononoke

Jimmy Johns or Quizno's?
- Tomahawk

Neither. Primo.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 6m6 minutes ago
EDM staff consulting with GM Peter Chiarelli at table. Something significant is being contemplated.
- PhillySportsGuy

Apparently the argument is over what to.order for dinner

Edit: leight

Probably what they will eat for dinner
- ob18

LEIGHT!

Mike Harrington
‏@BNHarrington
Can confirm @NHLbyMatty report that #Sabres have been kicking tires on Nail Yakupov. #Oilers
- PhillySportsGuy

It's so Tim Murray

Come on guys. We need better than this

What have I missed in the last 20+ pages.

But you are totally downplaying the "if" the asset you acquire even makes it -- there's no getting around the fact that Brayden Schenn is an NHL player. Even when I was all over him, nobody ever heard me say he wasn't an NHL player.

There is always risk that these guys are Brett Connolly, or worse, Zach Hamill.

Could you overvalue Schenn on a deal? Sure. Is it better to keep rolling the dice for guys who wind up with zero value? I don't see how that's possible.

Use Schenn in a package for a roster player, fine. Go for it. Use Schenn for a draft pick? That's not for me. I understand the position of others, but to me, that is not how to do it.
- AllInForFlyers

I think the mantra of many on this board has gone from wanting the Flyers to draft and develop, into they just want them to draft.

What have I missed in the last 20+ pages.
- Giroux_Is_God

BigE is sober

Anybody else think Kathryn Tappen is looking pretty hot tonight?
- MJL

Never forget.

Come on guys. We need better than this
- PhillySportsGuy

We have company due soon, dammit. I'll be popping in now and then and expecting you miscreants to keep my drunken ass informed

I think the mantra of many on this board has gone from wanting the Flyers to draft and develop, into they just want them to draft.
- MJL

Yup

BigE is sober
- PhillySportsGuy

Wrong again

We have company due soon, dammit. I'll be popping in now and then and expecting you miscreants to keep my drunken ass informed
- BiggE

*warms up the fake rumor machine*