Nope. A Hinkie move would be trading Schenn for Colorado's first this year and their first next year. Then using the first next year to trade down 2 spots and getting another first for 2019.

Thats a mother(frank)ing Hinkie
- PhillySportsGuy

yes but WHEN DOES IT END?!!!?!?!!?!

yes but WHEN DOES IT END?!!!?!?!!?!
- Mononoke

Well the 2019 1st has 4 years of lotto protections so we should see the pick start to contribute around 2022-2023ish

I just don't get it. We use the phrase "make us better in the long term" like that is a guarantee that it will happen, but when you're drafting 18-year-old kids, that guarantee isn't there for anyone, not to mention the fact that 30 other teams are trying to do the same thing.
- AllInForFlyers

No one is saying this proposition isn't risky. We're saying we're willing to take the risk.

Evander Kane couldn't you until after the draft happens?

No one is saying this proposition isn't risky. We're saying we're willing to take the risk.
- PhillySportsGuy

Remember in the fall we wanted to trade Schenn for more established young players like Hertl or Drouin and people scoffed at that too? "Drouin?! Not even for Hagg!"

There's no win.

Sanhiem and B Schenn both gone after today

Boston beat writer said Flyers Boston or Rangers will get Shattenkirk

An arbitration deal would only be for 1 year, right?
- wolfhounds

Not necessarily and I believe 2 years would take him right to ufa status

Hexy also has to decide, realistically, how close/far we are and when our window truly opens. In 5 years, when you'd think the d men are all in their primes or entering them, our top forwards are entering their mid-30s. It sounds far away, but a 33 year old Giroux/Simmer (if resigned), a 32 year old Jake....it's a concern that we may need another legitimate 1C or 1W in the making to help out....and extend our window in the process. Anaheim is going through much the same thing with their D/FWD age gap. And I worry that they're in a liminal state of contending.

As for Brayden Schenn, I personally think we are a bubble/low seed team with or without him. I don't think he drastically changes the immediate years's forecast, provided he is replaced piecemeal.
- Mononoke

Agreed

Sanhiem and B Schenn both gone after today

Boston beat writer said Flyers Boston or Rangers will get Shattenkirk
- Winning

Which one, Harris or Shinzawa? Both are pretty good, but I would be surprised that the Flyers are in on Shattenkirk

Last minute predictions? I think Columbus moves back from 3 looking for Logan Brown but surprise, surprise he is off the board by the time they pick. I also think we see at least one pick in the 10-17 range moved.
- hereticpride

I think pooptenkirk gets moved

Sanhiem and B Schenn both gone after today

Boston beat writer said Flyers Boston or Rangers will get Shattenkirk
- Winning

I think Boston gets him. What do the Rags have to give up? Boston is desperate.

Which one, Harris or Shinzawa? Both are pretty good, but I would be surprised that the Flyers are in on Shattenkirk
- AllInForFlyers

Haggerty

Not necessarily and I believe 2 years would take him right to ufa status
- PhillySportsGuy

Take him to arbitration, make him do it again, or not. His value isn't going to be so much more or less if he comes in with another 47-50 point season

Haggerty
- Winning

Ah. Thanks

Agreed. That's the clearest indicator of hockey's popularity in the United States, the fact that golf and crappy tv shows are more valuable to NBC.
- wolfhounds

The entire league needs a makeover. Even the disciplinary board is terrible. No one has any (frank)ing clue what a suspension worthy hit is. They also made all of these clutching and grabbing rules after the lockout then just stopped enforcing them making the game slower and less fun to watch.

yes but WHEN DOES IT END?!!!?!?!!?!
- Mononoke

LAND THE PLANE SAM!!

Well the 2019 1st has 4 years of lotto protections so we should see the pick start to contribute around 2022-2023ish
- hereticpride

I honestly can't wait until 2021 when the Sixers are actually contending and they get some top 5 pick because of a deal made in 2013.

I seriously wonder if Murray will float Evander Kane out there now. Way to get two police reports filed against you while your city is hosting the draft. The kid is just not worth the headache.

I think Boston gets him. What do the Rags have to give up? Boston is desperate.
- hereticpride

The illusion that they're a contender

The illusion that they're a contender
- Mononoke

They already know. Nash goes before July 1, even if they eat some

The crazy thing is if Stepan goes, too. They might not like him at 6.5

With the #3 pick in the draft, the Philadelphia Flyers are proud to select Patrik Laine.

(assuming the Jets take Puljujarvi (which is now rumored).

Take him to arbitration, make him do it again, or not. His value isn't going to be so much more or less if he comes in with another 47-50 point season
- AllInForFlyers

I think his value will decrease because

a.) he's shown he's more 45-50 points than 60 points
b.) He's shown he's probably reached his potential
c.) he's one year closer to ufa status

The Kings gave up a mid first rounder for Lucic despite him being 1 year from ufa, so maybe I'm wrong.

To be clear, I wouldn't move Schenn unless there was a guy I felt had very high potential like a Keller.

With the #3 pick in the draft, the Philadelphia Flyers are proud to select Patrik Laine.

(assuming the Jets take Puljujarvi (which is now rumored).
- wilsonecho91

Chevy should be fired if he doesn't take Laine. That guy seems to be on a mission to be the most boring franchise in hockey. I'm sure he would have rather picked 10th overall if he had the chance.

Another big day where hockeybuzz doesn't work.

I'm gonna need a strong drink for tonight.
- FlyersGrace

I'm waaayyy ahead of ya