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sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
Aside from the Flyers not winning it more, I had no problem with the dynasties in the 70s and 80s.
- Scoob


me neither, of course other than us running into said dynaties 3 times in the 80's. but as the game evolved, players evolved, and the game evolved around them. then changes were made and teams and players had to evolve again. parity became a norm not an exception. how fun is it seeing the NHL playoff bracket and having noooooooooo clue who is gonna win. whereas u look at the league on day 1 in the NBA and know its gonna be either Golden State, SA or the Thunder in the West, and whatever team Lebron is on in the west.

just terrible IMO
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:55 PM ET
Really?

Who won that year? I really thought he won it that year.

- J35Bacher


yeah i thought he was a two time DPOY, repeat winner even?

eh, shows how much i pay attention to the NBA these days. its been a long time since the early 2000's
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
I'm worried that they'll be competing with teams that are willing to use those NMCs. If I were a player about to sign for 3+ years, I would want a NMC even if it meant a little less money.

The 1 or 2 year deals obviously wouldn't carry those stipulations. I'd be ok with bringing back Gagner too.

- PhillySportsGuy


You don't feel like it's gonna be a really soft market for UFA's? Not sure many guys will have the leverage to be making demands.... see a lot of camp tryouts and late-summer 1-year deals happening. Which plays perfectly into Hexy's hands.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
I honestly never knew what channel the hockey was on. In general the NHL better be thinking hard about their presentation and their marketing, because they didn't just lose to the NBA, they got annihilated.
- BulliesPhan87



What, looking for hockey on CNBC wasn't a natural thought for you?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
(frank) 'em
- Mononoke


I'm not 100% sure on that though as they didn't get my viewership. I just couldn't watch that team ....
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
This is exactly where I am. The team has some assets to play with and I think they should really explore moving up to get Keller.

I also worry a bit about free agency because I think players are going to push for NMCs. We're going to likely have multiple expansion drafts in the next 2-3 years, so guys are going to want assurances they won't be exposed. I've never been a fan of handing out NMCs.

- PhillySportsGuy


im all in on Keller too, would love this guy on our team. perfect strategy too, decide if you want him to play with G or replace G in a few years on the top line. I honestly think we can get away with him being a winger, cause if G drops in the lineup, we have coots and konecny. imagine a line of keller konecny and NAK in a few years. it would be the most productive line of sub 6 footers ever in NHL history. could call em the midget line.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Jun 24 @ 2:57 PM ET
yeah i thought he was a two time DPOY, repeat winner even?

eh, shows how much i pay attention to the NBA these days. its been a long time since the early 2000's

- sjk540

Are you a sixers fan?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:57 PM ET
I can't even count the number of changes that need to be made to this (frank)ing bobo sports league
- PhillySportsGuy

I'm not exactly sure what you do to fix it, but the whole presentation is so second rate.

Here's a small change: they seem to think putting soft pop rock music over these intense physical highlights will open up the demographics, how about a nice consistent tone that reinforces that you're watching sports?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
im all in on Keller too, would love this guy on our team. perfect strategy too, decide if you want him to play with G or replace G in a few years on the top line. I honestly think we can get away with him being a winger, cause if G drops in the lineup, we have coots and konecny. imagine a line of keller konecny and NAK in a few years. it would be the most productive line of sub 6 footers ever in NHL history. could call em the midget line.
- sjk540

Just wait til we draft DeBrincat in round two!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
alot of draft trade talk compared to other years
- Winning


When was the last time we had 10 or 11 picks in a draft?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
What, looking for hockey on CNBC wasn't a natural thought for you?
- Scoob

is it CNBC, NBCSN, MSNBC, TONBC, AANBCIJMU? Somebody please help me find the hockeys.
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 2:58 PM ET
Are you a sixers fan?
- jak521


All Philly everything
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 2:59 PM ET
(frank) 'em
- Mononoke


buddy
sjk540
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 24 @ 3:00 PM ET
Just wait til we draft DeBrincat in round two!
- hereticpride


hes my Konecny this year. would love the flyers trading back in to the first to nab him.

watch when teams see 3 tyler johnson-esque players coming at them on TWO lines.

our anthem will be, cant touch this!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:00 PM ET
All Philly everything
- sjk540


My man. My man.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:01 PM ET
You don't feel like it's gonna be a really soft market for UFA's? Not sure many guys will have the leverage to be making demands.... see a lot of camp tryouts and late-summer 1-year deals happening. Which plays perfectly into Hexy's hands.
- Tomahawk


I think there will be a lot of guys like that, but I also think players with 3+ year deals are going to push for NMCs. It should be interesting though. More front offices have pushed for a more calculated approach. I guess we'll see.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:01 PM ET
hes my Konecny this year. would love the flyers trading back in to the first to nab him.

watch when teams see 3 tyler johnson-esque players coming at them on TWO lines.

our anthem will be, cant touch this!

- sjk540


But if you do, please be gentle, we shatter easily.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
What, looking for hockey on CNBC wasn't a natural thought for you?
- Scoob

Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:02 PM ET
I'm worried that they'll be competing with teams that are willing to use those NMCs. If I were a player about to sign for 3+ years, I would want a NMC even if it meant a little less money.

The 1 or 2 year deals obviously wouldn't carry those stipulations. I'd be ok with bringing back Gagner too.

- PhillySportsGuy


Bro, I'm thinking ahead like Nic Cage in Next. I got this. Trust me.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 3:03 PM ET
Bro, I'm thinking ahead like Nic Cage in Next. I got this. Trust me.
- Mononoke

obscure reference of the day.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
You don't feel like it's gonna be a really soft market for UFA's? Not sure many guys will have the leverage to be making demands.... see a lot of camp tryouts and late-summer 1-year deals happening. Which plays perfectly into Hexy's hands.
- Tomahawk


Schenn+2nd for Keller. Bam.

Resign Gagner. Bam.

Trade Gagner, Keller, Voracek, Couturier for rights to Stamkos. BAM.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'm not exactly sure what you do to fix it, but the whole presentation is so second rate.

Here's a small change: they seem to think putting soft pop rock music over these intense physical highlights will open up the demographics, how about a nice consistent tone that reinforces that you're watching sports?

- BulliesPhan87


The entire NBCSN experience from pre game show to game to post game show is an utter disaster. It's almost like they don't want me to watch the games.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 24 @ 3:04 PM ET
So we should trade Schenn+ for a top 10 pick and take Clayton Keller? Did I read this right?
- Mononoke


There should be no + if you're trading Schenn for 8-10 to take a guy like Keller or Brown. Unless the + is VDV.

If Schenn's agent is being unreasonable get a one year deal in arbitration.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Per sources:

There is definitely some phone calls being made between NHL front offices right now. Or, perhaps there aren't. The only thing that can guaranteed is that there will be a flood of trades tonight containing high draft picks and some key players swapping teams, or we could see no trades of any significance tonight. If trades are made, expect the Flyers to be one of the players, or don't. e4
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
Bro, I'm thinking ahead like Nic Cage in Next. I got this. Trust me.
- Mononoke

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