2nd or Hagg or someone. It would not be anything major
- Mononoke

Fo sho

also that PG they got last night at #28, from washington. seems like another guy who can absolutely ball, learn under parker, and it 2-3 years he becomes parker and the spurs basically replace manu duncan and parker with leonard aldridge and dejounte murray
- sjk540

I also heard they might make a play for Durant. If Duncan and Manu retire they could move Danny green for Durant.

Also look at the organization. It's just run smoothly by guys who know what they are doing.

And lastly Jerry Colangelo had his hands in getting the Jets moved to phoenix. That was a tool move

Except there wasn't. I broke this down the other day. He averaged 300 shots the last 2 seasons and shot like 20 more times this year. He actually shot more at ES 2 years ago than this year. That's isn't a noticeable increase. In fact, during his magic stretch where he shot over 18% during the second half and was almost a PPG player, his shot totals went DOWN by a whole shot.
- Mononoke

i axed you to post that up but never saw what you wrote

When you have one of the best big men of all time, and you already have your hall of famer, thats how you win.

The Sixers needed to get that player. The last year they won the Ship Duncan was still their best player.
- jak521

No he wasn't.

That was Leonard's coming out party and he has been there best player since.

Where da hot takez @

The league tried to change the lottery rules by giving the top team far less of a chance to finish in the top 3 and giving them a very real chance of falling to 5th. The small market owners vetoed it because deep down inside, they all know that's their primary way of finding a star.

They resented Hinkie for having the balls to do something they've all wanted to do for a very long time and they were afraid he'd be successful. That's everyone's fear really. If Hinkie stuck around and built a dynasty, you'd have 5 teams trying to game the system every year. Getting Hinkie pushed out was a way of warning GMs that the plan might work, but you won't be around the reap the benefits.
- PhillySportsGuy

Understandable, but it still seems awfully underhanded. More underhanded thank tanking, anyways.

Where da hot takez @
- Mordecai

Ek drowned in his lube filled hot tub. Never forget.

Ek drowned in his lube filled hot tub. Never forget.
- hereticpride

#hotLubtimemachine

No he wasn't.

That was Leonard's coming out party and he has been there best player since.
- J35Bacher

Sure he was. Leonard had a great playoff.. and was starting to come around, but only averaged 12 points a game in 14.

Duncan was at 16 points a game and nearly 10 rebounds still.

Now, its Leonards team, and if I remember correctly, they didnt even make it to the Conference Finals.

The point stands. In order to be a dominant team, you need Hall of Fame level talent on your team.

EDIT: Even in the playoffs Duncan still averaged more points per game. Damn near Double-Double in the playoffs.

No he wasn't.

That was Leonard's coming out party and he has been there best player since.
- J35Bacher

wasnt that the time Kawhi Leonard was Finals MVP and Defensive POY?

I agree with him having his most value now and that he could be used to truly address that high end forward need. Imo, if you move up with Schenn and find that forward, Schenn's production/points can be replaced via FA.
- arichardson22

What if I move up to 3 and say draft Puljujarvi. He has a Parnarin rookie season.

Then I replaced it and have past it as I have money to help sign a FA to bring depth to the 3rd line.

yet more people care about it.

the nba and nhl have gone two different directions. yeah its easier for anyone to go play basketball than it is to play ice hockey...but one league builds up their star players to the max and the other downplays it beyond belief.
- YuenglingJagr

I saw that same argument from the Pens blogger, it didn't make sense then, and still doesn't. The two games couldn't be more different, especially when it comes to scoring and ease of play. The similarities between the two starts and ends at they are both sports.

How does the NHL downplay the star players?

wasnt that the time Kawhi Leonard was Finals MVP and Defensive POY?
- sjk540

I believe so.

I think the thing that amazes me most is just how they can find depth guys. Patty Mills. Corey Joseph. Tiago Splitter. Boris Diaw. Guys that can just come in and do their job and not miss a beat.

wasnt that the time Kawhi Leonard was Finals MVP and Defensive POY?
- sjk540

Nope. Finals MVP that year. Following year was his first DPOY

Fo sho
- PhillySportsGuy

The idea of picking up Keller, who can either enter our top 6 as a game breaking LW in 1-2 years, or start out as 3C....all while working towards being our future #1C in a handful of years when G slows down (still awesome) and maybe could be better used at wing or something, I simply don't see how Schenn has more value to us long term than that.

Resign Gagner for 2 years. If used in a role like Schenn for a full year, he can make up 40+ points of that. Lord knows he played way better than him in the playoffs when called upon and was terrific during the stretch. Another interesting name is Teddy Purcell...he's just as strong an ES scorer as Schenn while being a slightly better possession player. He can get you 40+. Give him a 2 year deal or something. Schenn's 50 points can be recouped in the short term. And then long term it might not be close.

NHL draft day/weekend and the NBA/Sixers are hot topics?

The NBA would have a phenomenal product on their hands if they contracted by about 10 teams and redistributed players appropriately. It sucks knowing just about where every team will finish before the season even starts.
- hereticpride

You mean you didn't want to win $8 by betting Cavs-Warriors would be the final at the beginning of the year??? The NBA is a joke, I don't get why so many people love it. I've been on board with Hinkie's process since the beginning because there really was NO OTHER OPTION. There was no other option because of the state of the league, the joke it is, and the need for a superstar for your team to even have a chance.

It's funny that all the Hinkie haters would complain but offer no other plan. Free agents were not coming to a mediocre Philly team, drafting 15-20 each year wasn't making the team any better, and they were stuck in a rut of maybe making it as a 7-8 seed and getting trounced in the first round. Then the NBA steps in, removes Hinkie (no way I believe he resigned on his own or that he wasn't forced out by ridiculous behind the scenes circumstances) because they were embarrassed and didn't want other teams to follow suit. I really hope the Sixers become a top team soon to stick it to the NBA and show them what a joke the league actually is.

Nope. Finals MVP that year. Following year was his first DPOY
- jak521

Really?

Who won that year? I really thought he won it that year.

I guess I see it through the lens of comparison to Hextall's tenure. I find it a lot more impressive to successfully foist off some of the contracts the Flyers had than to, say, take a bad contract to gain a good pick. Not that the latter isn't a good thing, but it seems more obvious than genius.

Then again, the Hinkieites I know also thought Chip Kelly was a genius team builder for a bit too, so maybe I'm being unfair here.
- BulliesPhan87

It wasn't as easy as you think.

Moving MCW for the Laker, getting the Kings to fork over an unprotected 1st rounder the year after their best player hits FA, trading the 15th best point guard for what became three top 12 picks.

This would be like the Flyers
1. trading Laughton for a top 10 pick
2. taking on a bad contract of 2 years from Vancouver for the rights to swap picks with them in the next two years then getting their unprotected first rounder in 2019
3. Trading Schenn for 3 picks that land in the top 12.

How do the Spurs manage every year then?

They failed one time for Duncan, which if I am not mistaken Robinson was hurt that year too.

They got Duncan and they then built around that. As Duncan got older they drafted Kwaihi, which was a trade with Indiana for George Hill.

How many lottery picks have they gotten?

They have now changed the core by making the vets role players and turning the team into Aldridge and Leanord.

I don't see where they needed to fail for 3 straight years to become reasonable.
- J35Bacher

It wouldn't have been 3 years if the Sixers got their Tim Duncan, but they missed out on Wiggins and KAT. They get one of them, the process takes a different turn

I saw that same argument from the Pens blogger, it didn't make sense then, and still doesn't. The two games couldn't be more different, especially when it comes to scoring and ease of play. The similarities between the two starts and ends at they are both sports.

How does the NHL downplay the star players?
- wolfhounds

I agree with what he said but not to that extent. The NHL is definitely more of an old boys club where guys like Seguin are getting traded for how they act off the ice. I think a lot of it is just because of how personable the sport of basketball is. People are closer to players...sometimes they get punched even...there are less players on a team and on the court so they get more exposure. A player can isolate himself and run the offense.

I know you get that part, but to the causal fan...they are exposed to just a few names on a regular basis

Chara's corpse for AMac.

It's like Umberger for Hartnell all over again.

I guess I see it through the lens of comparison to Hextall's tenure. I find it a lot more impressive to successfully foist off some of the contracts the Flyers had than to, say, take a bad contract to gain a good pick. Not that the latter isn't a good thing, but it seems more obvious than genius.

Then again, the Hinkieites I know also thought Chip Kelly was a genius team builder for a bit too, so maybe I'm being unfair here.
- BulliesPhan87

I don't think you can compare Hextall to Hinkie, the NBA and the NHL are two completely different animals. We can argue that Crosby should have more cups, but a superstar doesn't guarantee you that in the NHL, a Lebron guarantees that in the NBA.

NHL draft day/weekend and the NBA/Sixers are hot topics?
- wolfhounds

Well they did pick 1st overall last night and we're picking 18th today...

very true. thats why the NBA is so sad. the nhl hasnt had a repeat winner since the red wings 20 years ago.

going one stop further, if jordan never came back to basketball, maybe you add one team to that list (jazz) but i can guarantee u it would be either houston or utah winning those 3 championships up for grabs.

all repeats and no parity makes jack a dull boy
- sjk540

Aside from the Flyers not winning it more, I had no problem with the dynasties in the 70s and 80s.