YuenglingJagr
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I see Schenn as a 45-50 point guy who is good on the PP, but weak at ES. I feel like the Flyers can do better even if the replacement doesn't score as many points. - PhillySportsGuy
LOL...it is so weird when those guys that are weak at ES finish second on the team in ES scoring |
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Yeah, career year in a contract year... never seen that not work out before. ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - Tomahawk
should we resign Ryan White? |
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dmorin
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I know a lot of you guys arent' lucic fans on here, but at left wing, physical, big, with a consistent 20 goal scoring pace, why are we not interested in Luch? 28 years old? wouldn't a six year term be ok? Cup experience? a Lefty, no less? Take some of the load off Gudas, Simmonds and White when it comes to cheap shots....
Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me....
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should we resign Ryan White? - YuenglingJagr
Please no |
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Giroux_Is_God
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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I know a lot of you guys arent' lucic fans on here, but at left wing, physical, big, with a consistent 20 goal scoring pace, why are we not interested in Luch? 28 years old? wouldn't a six year term be ok? Cup experience? a Lefty, no less? Take some of the load off Gudas, Simmonds and White when it comes to cheap shots....
Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.... - dmorin
Can't wait til he gets a 6 million dollar deal over 5 years to see his body break own after 2 |
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sjk540
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Location: Hoboken, NJ Joined: 01.28.2016
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8 different teams have won an NBA championship in the past 33 years. All of those teams (with the exception of the 05 Pistons) had true Hall of Famers and superstars lead them there.
The Sixers needed to do something. They were stuck in the middle zone. Never good enough to make it to the next level, but not bad enough to get top picks. Only real way to change things up is to lose. Just the way that leauge works.
They made a radical decison. Hopefully it pays off. - jak521
ive always been just shocked at how people dont understand this. they complain about tanking for 3 years, but 9 years of mediocrity you can put up with? competing for the 8th spot each and every year and getting swept in the first round? what fun is that. they made the decision, lost for a few years, and now have pieces to build around to be relevant in the next year or two.
sometimes, just sometimes.... |
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hereticpride
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I know a lot of you guys arent' lucic fans on here, but at left wing, physical, big, with a consistent 20 goal scoring pace, why are we not interested in Luch? 28 years old? wouldn't a six year term be ok? Cup experience? a Lefty, no less? Take some of the load off Gudas, Simmonds and White when it comes to cheap shots....
Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.... - dmorin
I'd have interest but the problem is some team is going to offer him 6 years 7 million. At 5 years 5.5 I would LOVE him but that's just not going to happen. |
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sjk540
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LOL...it is so weird when those guys that are weak at ES finish second on the team in ES scoring - YuenglingJagr
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PhillySportsGuy
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I agree with this. And I think Hexy is heavily considering moving him. If I'm not mistaken, Hexy was with the Kings when they drafted him? If I am correct, then Hexy arguably has the best judgement on Schenn, and even may not think as highly of him as others do. He's been involved with trade rumors for the last couple seasons, including this offseason and regular season so maybe Hexy really isn't sold on him. But, one thing Hexy did do was challenge Schenn in the beginning of the season and Schenn showed up and accomplished the challenge. All the props to him, but as some have said it was a contract year; can he constantly replicate this season, or even improve from it? Who knows. its possible, but for $5-5.5 x 5, I want a guarantee I will get 50-60 points without a large worry of consistency issues. - arichardson22
Hexy has had 3 seasons to watch and interact with Schenn as he became a regular in the NHL. I don't think their LA roots will have much of an influence.
I also don't believe Schenn's season had to do with putting in a better effort or changing his game. It's not like he became a better two-way player. He just shot the puck better. It's similar to what happened with Hartnell when he had his career year. It's why you shouldn't evaluate a player based mostly on points.
I know people will interpret this as me saying he sucks and he's not good, but the truth is that I feel his raw numbers inflate his true importance to the team and if a team is willing to part with a desirable, young asset, I would certainly be interested in moving him. |
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hereticpride
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ive always been just shocked at how people dont understand this. they complain about tanking for 3 years, but 9 years of mediocrity you can put up with? competing for the 8th spot each and every year and getting swept in the first round? what fun is that. they made the decision, lost for a few years, and now have pieces to build around to be relevant in the next year or two.
sometimes, just sometimes.... - sjk540
So you're saying trade Schenn, right?
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This year, they'll just lose because they're still not that good. They are banking a lot on a bunch of unknowns, a few guys that don't seem to work that well with what they have, and a former cripple.
I really hope they do turn it around and win a championship. I really do. But I just don't see it and, after purposefully losing for 3 years, I won't shed a tear if they never do. - jmatchett383
NBA blah blah blah...what was the Zeppelin song you were trying to recall? |
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sjk540
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So you're saying trade Schenn, right? - hereticpride
howd you arrive at that? or was that sarcasm? im bad with that, virtually speaking |
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hereticpride
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howd you arrive at that? or was that sarcasm? im bad with that, virtually speaking - sjk540
Sarcasm my good sir. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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LOL...it is so weird when those guys that are weak at ES finish second on the team in ES scoring - YuenglingJagr
What happens when his shooting percentage and PDO regress to the mean though? |
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jak521
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ive always been just shocked at how people dont understand this. they complain about tanking for 3 years, but 9 years of mediocrity you can put up with? competing for the 8th spot each and every year and getting swept in the first round? what fun is that. they made the decision, lost for a few years, and now have pieces to build around to be relevant in the next year or two.
sometimes, just sometimes.... - sjk540
8 teams in 33 years. Those include the Rockets (2x), Warriors (1), Mavericks (1).
So in 29 years only 5 different teams have won a championship. Hell, if Jordan didnt leave for baseball camp, Houston may have never even won. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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I figure we should see how he does after his break out year before selling him for salt blocks. - jak521
If they sign him to a long term deal and he regresses to 50 points, they certainly won't have the same market they do today. |
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dmorin
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Schenn trade talk, eh?
Anyone see any potential targets? Picks or players or both?
Is he a guy St. Louis would be interested in (Shattenkirk?) Montreal (part of a package for Subban?) |
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jak521
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If they sign him to a long term deal and he regresses to 50 points, they certainly won't have the same market they do today. - PhillySportsGuy
So dont sign him to a long term deal. 4 years, pay him for what he is worth (a top 6, top PP player) and let him play. Kids still very young and really only starting to really come into his own. Its not like he is 27 and still battling to play a top 6 spot. |
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YuenglingJagr
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I know a lot of you guys arent' lucic fans on here, but at left wing, physical, big, with a consistent 20 goal scoring pace, why are we not interested in Luch? 28 years old? wouldn't a six year term be ok? Cup experience? a Lefty, no less? Take some of the load off Gudas, Simmonds and White when it comes to cheap shots....
Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.... - dmorin
srsly we shud be trayden schenn and signing lucic for cups |
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PhillySportsGuy
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Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ Joined: 04.08.2012
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I know a lot of you guys arent' lucic fans on here, but at left wing, physical, big, with a consistent 20 goal scoring pace, why are we not interested in Luch? 28 years old? wouldn't a six year term be ok? Cup experience? a Lefty, no less? Take some of the load off Gudas, Simmonds and White when it comes to cheap shots....
Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.... - dmorin
It would be less risky to just bring back Hartnell |
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jak521
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Schenn trade talk, eh?
Anyone see any potential targets? Picks or players or both?
Is he a guy St. Louis would be interested in (Shattenkirk?) Montreal (part of a package for Subban?) - dmorin
Why? What does that solve for now and the future?
What we truly lack right now is top end offensive talent. We are packed with defensive prospects, but dont have any true offensive prospects outside of Konecny.
Continue to build this team. let the guys develop and add them to the team when ready.
Trading for Shattenkirk really makes no sense to me. |
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arichardson22
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Hexy has had 3 seasons to watch and interact with Schenn as he became a regular in the NHL. I don't think their LA roots will have much of an influence.
I also don't believe Schenn's season had to do with putting in a better effort or changing his game. It's not like he became a better two-way player. He just shot the puck better. It's similar to what happened with Hartnell when he had his career year. It's why you shouldn't evaluate a player based mostly on points.
I know people will interpret this as me saying he sucks and he's not good, but the truth is that I feel his raw numbers inflate his true importance to the team and if a team is willing to part with a desirable, young asset, I would certainly be interested in moving him. - PhillySportsGuy
It may have been you, or someone else, but it was said Schenn does not make the players around him better. And I can't argue that. But briefly, lets go back before this season. Before this season, it seemed there were more Schenn naysayers than supporters; I'll admit I was a naysayer. I wasn't convinced with him and his role, as it was unestablished. Over the years, his hockey IQ was questioned; it was said so many times he looks lost out there on the ice, that he'd even become invisible without the puck and would disappear for long durations. With this season passed, he obviously took steps forward but I have much difficulty deciding if this season was him turning a corner to what he will consistently be, or as you said, just inflated stats with a very good contract year. I trust Hexy will make the right judgement in the end.
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8 different teams have won an NBA championship in the past 33 years. All of those teams (with the exception of the 05 Pistons) had true Hall of Famers and superstars lead them there.
The Sixers needed to do something. They were stuck in the middle zone. Never good enough to make it to the next level, but not bad enough to get top picks. Only real way to change things up is to lose. Just the way that leauge works.
They made a radical decison. Hopefully it pays off. - jak521
It was the right decision. The truth is most people who have a problem with the whole Hinkie era didn't care about the Sixers, probably don't really care about basketball, and would have criticized the team for their everlasting mediocrity if they stayed the course.
The only part I didn't like, and this is a petty complaint, was the anointing of Hinkie as a genius for blowing up the team. That praise really should've been reserved for the building phase. |
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should we resign Ryan White? - YuenglingJagr
No
We can get another version of him and do away with his stupid quote after the bracelet throwing incident. |
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PhillySportsGuy
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So dont sign him to a long term deal. 4 years, pay him for what he is worth (a top 6, top PP player) and let him play. Kids still very young and really only starting to really come into his own. Its not like he is 27 and still battling to play a top 6 spot. - jak521
What I'm saying is that I don't believe Schenn will reproduce similar numbers as he had this year, so his value is going to go down. If the Flyers pay him a fair contract based on this year's numbers, it's not going to be attractive next offseason unless he produces 59 points and 26 goals. |
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