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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:54 AM ET
so 5 years 20 mil?
- sjk540


that would be more better
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
Geez I really hate Tanner, him and his stupid fancy stats "proving" everything.

McDavid snubbed coming in 3rd? Best player in the NHL? Takes a hell of a lot more than a measly 48 pts in 45 games to even open that debate. Better than Crosby? WOW. McJeebus needs to start racking up 90+ point seasons and translating them into wins before that conversation even starts.

- Glak18


I think you are better off using the other guys he "proves" are good with fancy stats as examples...because McDavid really is that good
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 24 @ 11:55 AM ET
id say yak with G and Simmonds, i like keeping schenn and coots together, and adding voracek for bonafide winger for coots. i think G and simmer and Voracek and Coots are better combinations than G and Voracek and Coots and Simmer, although, you really cant go wrong either way. i think with this as a top 6, while adding a piece or two to better improve the bottom 6, u move into that 100 point mark and possibly looking at a division playoff berth rather than a wild card berth.
- sjk540


All good points. All would get a whole lot more interesting too if Konecny does happen to make it out of camp.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
what are your thoughts on trading/keeping schenn?
- YuenglingJagr

Schenn to me is a part of the Flyers core. He's young and coming into his prime.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:57 AM ET
People seriously want to trade for Yak. Confusing times.
- hereticpride

Silly season. Don't believe the hype.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
First rounders are probably really good
Second rounders - some are good, some are okay
Third - seventh rounders - good for them to get drafted but you'll probably never hear their names again so listen closely

- Scoob


This describes my pre-draft research quite well.

#SayNoToYakupov
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
Schenn to me is a part of the Flyers core. He's young and coming into his prime.
- Pixote Andolini


I think Hextall sees it this way too.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 11:58 AM ET
All good points. All would get a whole lot more interesting too if Konecny does happen to make it out of camp.
- arichardson22

I doubt he does, especially if hexy finds 30 ish goals in fa or via trade. Propy is the only one who has a realistic shot to make it this season. 2 yrs from now is when I think the flood gates open
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
This describes my pre-draft research quite well.

#SayNoToYakupov

- johndewar

Which is why you can trade a 2nd plus picks for yak and its probably worth it lol
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
I doubt he does, especially if hexy finds 30 ish goals in fa or via trade. Propy is the only one who has a realistic shot to make it this season. 2 yrs from now is when I think the flood gates open
- flyers4487

If Morin still doesn't make it this year I'm going to start getting worried. Not "now or never" worried but he has to make the jump at some point.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:00 PM ET
I think you are better off using the other guys he "proves" are good with fancy stats as examples...because McDavid really is that good
- YuenglingJagr


Never said McDavid is not good, best in NHL...not even close right now. Potential to be the best....you bet. Great thing about potential....everyone has it.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:03 PM ET
If Morin still doesn't make it this year I'm going to start getting worried. Not "now or never" worried but he has to make the jump at some point.
- hereticpride


Morin will be in orange and black this season at some point but I lean more towards injury call up or replace a traded vet than starting the season with the club.
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:03 PM ET
If Morin still doesn't make it this year I'm going to start getting worried. Not "now or never" worried but he has to make the jump at some point.
- hereticpride

He only had one pro season so far and is only 20 years old, so hes still on track. I think if he takes a step back this yr, and doesnt make the team in 2 yrs or is not the first guy called up then I think you start to worry.

Most d take a few yrs to develop, remember Ghost is 23 already.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
If Morin still doesn't make it this year I'm going to start getting worried. Not "now or never" worried but he has to make the jump at some point.
- hereticpride


Nah....Morin turns 21 next month. That's young. If he sits in the AHL for another year (with, maybe, an injury call up or two), I'm cool with that.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 24 @ 12:04 PM ET
Never said McDavid is not good, best in NHL...not even close right now. Potential to be the best....you bet. Great thing about potential....everyone has it.
- Glak18

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 24 @ 12:05 PM ET
Nah....Morin turns 21 next month. That's young. If he sits in the AHL for another year (with, maybe, an injury call up or two), I'm cool with that.
- johndewar

Yeah, thats what I'm hoping for.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:06 PM ET
Never said McDavid is not good, best in NHL...not even close right now. Potential to be the best....you bet. Great thing about potential....everyone has it.
- Glak18


True, I have the potential to get drunk tonight.

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:07 PM ET
Nah....Morin turns 21 next month. That's young. If he sits in the AHL for another year (with, maybe, an injury call up or two), I'm cool with that.
- johndewar


I just want to see him come up, and next time the opposition is whacking away at Mason after he freezes the puck, he goes out and just destroys someone.

It will be worth the penalty to send the message.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 24 @ 12:08 PM ET
Schenn to me is a part of the Flyers core. He's young and coming into his prime.
- Pixote Andolini


Schenn to me is like RJ Umberger back in 2008. Good player, probably has some good seasons ahead... but core player? Nah.

(I've been one of the staunchest Schenn supporters on this thread for years too, btw)

Time to sell high on him, IMO.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:09 PM ET

- dragonoffrost


Unless I missed the meme convention meetings and they said its ok to use them out of context....what?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 24 @ 12:10 PM ET
Schenn to me is like RJ Umberger back in 2008. Good player, probably has some good seasons ahead... but core player? Nah.

(I've been one of the staunchest Schenn supporters on this thread for years too, btw)

Time to sell high on him, IMO.

- Tomahawk



that's kind of a good analogy.


BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
that's kind of a good analogy.
- J35Bacher


I'm ok with moving Schenn, or pretty much anyone else, it all depends on what's coming back.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
Schenn to me is like RJ Umberger back in 2008. Good player, probably has some good seasons ahead... but core player? Nah.

(I've been one of the staunchest Schenn supporters on this thread for years too, btw)

Time to sell high on him, IMO.

- Tomahawk


How dare you!
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
I just want to see him come up, and next time the opposition is whacking away at Mason after he freezes the puck, he goes out and just destroys someone.

It will be worth the penalty to send the message.

- BiggE

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 24 @ 12:11 PM ET
Unless I missed the meme convention meetings and they said its ok to use them out of context....what?
- Glak18


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