So after trading fleury, maybe sign Eric Staal cheap to play LW with Sid. Use assets from fleury trade for yak

Staal sid horn
Kunitz malkin yak
Hbk
Wilson fehr rust

Far fetched but I still think Eric has some skill left and may come cheap. Read he wants to find a place where he can have a big role again and I can't think of a bigger role than on the top line of the defending champs
- jchst22

God no on Eric Staal. That is an easy pass. I'd rather have Sheary there.

And it cracks me up that folks around here have been pining for quality forwards on ELCs for years, and now that they finally have some of them everyone wants to replace them with highly-paid scrubs like Frolik or Yakupov.
- hardnosed

No one is really interested in Frolik other than RW from what I've seen. Yakupov at $2.5M isnt exactly high paid.

read on the devils post today that a 2nd or 3rd would do it for yakupov. so, how about:

pens trade fleury to calgary and get a 2nd round pick and an asset (sam bennett or mike frolik)

Pens trade ian cole to blues for brian elliot straight up

pens trade beau bennett and a 2nd for yaks to EDM

pens get some $ together for dumolin as 2016-17 is the last yr of this contract. pens sign schultz for less than the 3.9M tender he was to receive. pens let pouliot play a bit to see if he really can be an every day dman

wish lovejoy all the best as he will make a lot more $ elsewhere altho i would not be opposed to him staying.
- i'mjustafan

You aren't getting Sam Bennett from Calgary unless you are shipping Malkin to Calgary. I wish people would be able to see it. Sam Bennett is a very good young player. Why should Calgary send him and a second for Fleury? Pass on Frolik.

Long time reader, first time poster. Figured I'd throw my hat in the ring as Armchair GM.

Trades:
To Cal – Fleury
To Pit – Shinkaruk or Poirier & 2nd
(Cal might not bite, but it’s not unreasonable & I wouldn’t want to take much less for Flower)

Kunitz anywhere for a pick (4th maybe?)
(Not eager to get rid of Kuny, but need the cap space for this scenario)

Sign:
Lovejoy – 3yr/$2M per (read somewhere he might be ok w/ that to stay in Pit)
Okposo – 6yr/$6.5 - $7M per (not sure if he’d want more, but that’s probably the limit we could go)

Shink/Poirier($863k) – Crosby($8.7M) – Hornqvist($4.25M)
Wilson($625k) – Malkin($9.5M) – Okposo($7M)
Hagelin($4M) – Bonino($1.9M) – Kessel($6.8M)
Kuhnackl($625k) – Fehr($2M) – Rust($640k)
Sheary($575k) – Sundqvist($700k)

*Sheary to Sid’s line if that prospect isn’t ready & sign Bennett for ~$800k.
*Could swap Wilson & Sheary.

Maatta($4M) – Letang($7.25M)
Dumoulin($800k) – Daley($3.3M)
Cole($2.1M) – Lovejoy ($2M)
Pouliot ($863k)

Murray ($620k)
Backup ($1.5M) (open to suggestions)

Scuds Retention ($1.125M)

Cap($73M) – Payroll(~$71.8M) = Cap Space(~$1.18M)

If Okposo gets a NMC, expose Horny in Exp Draft (only 1 yr left at that point) and use Okposo/Sprong/Kessel on RW going forward.
If Lovejoy won’t sign that low, try to extend Shultz for ~$2M or find some other 6/7 dman to compete w/ Puliot.

Thoughts??

P.S. I never get tired of hearing "the Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins"

I asked yesterday but didn't see a response with a quick look through the comments. Does the Vegas team draft an AHL team as well?

Long time reader, first time poster. Figured I'd throw my hat in the ring as Armchair GM.

Trades:
To Cal – Fleury
To Pit – Shinkaruk or Poirier & 2nd
(Cal might not bite, but it’s not unreasonable & I wouldn’t want to take much less for Flower)

Kunitz anywhere for a pick (4th maybe?)
(Not eager to get rid of Kuny, but need the cap space for this scenario)

Sign:
Lovejoy – 3yr/$2M per (read somewhere he might be ok w/ that to stay in Pit)
Okposo – 6yr/$6.5 - $7M per (not sure if he’d want more, but that’s probably the limit we could go)

Shink/Poirier($863k) – Crosby($8.7M) – Hornqvist($4.25M)
Wilson($625k) – Malkin($9.5M) – Okposo($7M)
Hagelin($4M) – Bonino($1.9M) – Kessel($6.8M)
Kuhnackl($625k) – Fehr($2M) – Rust($640k)
Sheary($575k) – Sundqvist($700k)

*Sheary to Sid’s line if that prospect isn’t ready & sign Bennett for ~$800k.
*Could swap Wilson & Sheary.

Maatta($4M) – Letang($7.25M)
Dumoulin($800k) – Daley($3.3M)
Cole($2.1M) – Lovejoy ($2M)
Pouliot ($863k)

Murray ($620k)
Backup ($1.5M) (open to suggestions)

Scuds Retention ($1.125M)

Cap($73M) – Payroll(~$71.8M) = Cap Space(~$1.18M)

If Okposo gets a NMC, expose Horny in Exp Draft (only 1 yr left at that point) and use Okposo/Sprong/Kessel on RW going forward.
If Lovejoy won’t sign that low, try to extend Shultz for ~$2M or find some other 6/7 dman to compete w/ Puliot.

Thoughts??

P.S. I never get tired of hearing "the Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins"


- BestEpisodeEver

Isn't it awesome!

Welcome to the place.

What is the infatuation with Hutton? He has like 80 career starts. Stats are not elite. doesn't seem like the guy I want backing up a rookie goalie
- sditulli

Hutton is cheap ... can play 30 games per year, which is what you would want and he isn't as bad as you think.

Long time reader, first time poster. Figured I'd throw my hat in the ring as Armchair GM.

...omitted to shorten the reply...

- BestEpisodeEver

I don't think anyhting there is unreasonable, but I think signing Okposo to that kind of deal is a big mistake. Good player. But not consistent enough for that chunk of change.

No one is really interested in Frolik other than RW from what I've seen. Yakupov at $2.5M isnt exactly high paid.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

That's a lot of money for 12 goals a year.

Depending on the Lovejoy and Schultz situation, I'd like to pursue Brian Campbell.

That's a lot of money for 12 goals a year.
- hardnosed

He's played well in his short sample size with good centers. He's probably a better bet and better bang for your buck than Kunitz at $3.85M.

Depending on the Lovejoy and Schultz situation, I'd like to pursue Brian Campbell.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Campbell is going back to chi. Along with Malkin...

Malkin for Kane e4

I don't think anyhting there is unreasonable, but I think signing Okposo to that kind of deal is a big mistake. Good player. But not consistent enough for that chunk of change.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Yeah, figured that's an overpayment. He's going to get it somewhere though. Just thinking along the lines of having another long term top 6 wing locked up if we can't resign Horny.

Isn't it awesome!

Welcome to the place.
- acdc1206

Thanks!

And it cracks me up that folks around here have been pining for quality forwards on ELCs for years, and now that they finally have some of them everyone wants to replace them with highly-paid scrubs like Frolik or Yakupov.
- hardnosed

People don't think our guys are true top 6 guys so the arguments make sense. They are bottom 6 guys with hustle. A few of them may have potential to overachieve into top 6 guys - Rust if he improves his shot, Wilson based on his work last year. I think more than anything it looks like we have the cap space to add. More depth is always a good thing. If we have 16 NHL forwards at the trade deadline then maybe we are sellers of depth for picks (doubtful, but who knows).

That's a lot of money for 12 goals a year.
- hardnosed

Agreed. You are paying for pedigree. If he puts up 30 goals as Malkin's wing then you suddenly have a very valuable guy. Not even sure if we could resign him. But if you spent a 2nd round on him. He puts up 30 goals on Malkins wing. suddenly you can trade him for maybe a 15th pick. Just looks like good asset management.

Campbell is going back to chi. Along with Malkin...

Malkin for Kane e4
- nh4442

LOL ... Patrick Kane has a much better chance landing in jail/prison than him landing here.

I don't think anyhting there is unreasonable, but I think signing Okposo to that kind of deal is a big mistake. Good player. But not consistent enough for that chunk of change.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

That and I dont really feel Okposo is a good fit with the Pens....his durability is also questionable.

Sure if they get rid of he salary cap
- Dcoms

They all fit under the cap

https://www.capfriendly.c...m/armchair-gm/team/133836

That and I dont really feel Okposo is a good fit with the Pens....his durability is also questionable.
- MattStrat

I had to laugh at this ... questioning someone's durability issues as not being a fit, but yet, we are qualifying Beau Bennett. I know there is a cost difference between the two, but Beau does nothing good and Okposo does.

And it cracks me up that folks around here have been pining for quality forwards on ELCs for years, and now that they finally have some of them everyone wants to replace them with highly-paid scrubs like Frolik or Yakupov.
- hardnosed

I'm not getting rid of any of the forwards that contributed last year. Just improving the ranks. I don't see them as long term fixes. Rust helped in a small sample size, but over 82 games I don't believe he is a top 6 RW. More 3rd/4th line material. Yakupov in a new environment where he's allowed to play offensive hockey with a skilled center would be deadly. He played well with McDavid before he got hurt last year.

Depending on the Lovejoy and Schultz situation, I'd like to pursue Brian Campbell.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think depth at d is more important than one big add at D. With our top 4 pretty nice and set I'd go for several cheap options that maybe could even pass through waivers before Campbell. If we're going the big signing rout I'd rather go after Demers.

I had to laugh at this ... questioning someone's durability issues as not being a fit, but yet, we are qualifying Beau Bennett. I know there is a cost difference between the two, but Beau does nothing good and Okposo does.
- Oneonta Penguin

If you read the comment correctly I didnt say he wasnt a good fit because of durability. I didnt say my reasons for him not being a good fit at all. I also didnt say a thing about re signing Bennett, which I dont agree with.

People don't think our guys are true top 6 guys so the arguments make sense. They are bottom 6 guys with hustle. A few of them may have potential to overachieve into top 6 guys - Rust if he improves his shot, Wilson based on his work last year. I think more than anything it looks like we have the cap space to add. More depth is always a good thing. If we have 16 NHL forwards at the trade deadline then maybe we are sellers of depth for picks (doubtful, but who knows).
- sditulli

Gotta look at it as a top 9. Sheary and Rust both are top 9 players. And they both have plenty of room to grow as players. If Rust continues to develop, he easily can be a 20 goal scorer in this league due to his speed and nose around the net alone.

And Sheary was the whirling dervish Crosby thrives with. They just need to let it ride this year, patch up, move along, and get better as a team instead of getting a better team.

Yep. And they just won a Cup by fielding a forward group that would fight for every inch, backcheck 110% every time, sell out to block shots, etc.

And then you reverse course and go out and acquire two Russian floaters?

Makes no sense.
- hardnosed

Not really, they won the cup because they smothered the opposing teams with shots and high danger scoring chances. Adding more highly skilled players increases the chance of scoring on those shots. I wouldn't call them floaters, just like Kessel was never a floater. Media mislabels players when they are put in positions to fail. Put them in a position to succeed, and look at the "redemption" story Kessel got. Dude played the same way he did in Toronto, probably should have won the Conn Smythe.