Wow what a strange list. Abramov at 51 screams this year's Kucherov. Dahlen not even in 2nd. Logan Stanley above Rubtsov.

I am completely ok with the draft going the way of this ranking. Just some really surprising things. I was big on Borgstrom and they have him as almost a 1st. Other stuff too. Kunin, Abramov, AND Dahlen sounds like a fine draft to me personally.
- Mononoke

McKenzie's mock is usually pretty good, in terms of accuracy. He talks to everyone.

Maybe I'm late because I haven't back read, but had anyone heard this?

http://www.nhltraderumors...-out-of-columbus.html?m=1
- Pelle31Forever

Listen. Umberger sucks...but you can't help but think the Flyers at least broke even with that trade.

Maybe I'm late because I haven't back read, but had anyone heard this?

http://www.nhltraderumors...-out-of-columbus.html?m=1
- Pelle31Forever

Interesting. Let say the Flyers did trade for Hartnell (1/2 retained) and the 3rd overall.

1. What do they give up?

2. Who do they take a 3?

Listen. Umberger sucks...but you can't help but think the Flyers at least broke even with that trade.
- Giroux_Is_God

I had no intention of bringing Umberger into the conversation. More intrigued by the thought of getting the 3rd overall.

Interesting. Let say the Flyers did trade for Hartnell (1/2 retained) and the 3rd overall.

1. What do they give up?

2. Who do they take a 3?
- coffee junkie

1. Simmonds starts the conversation at the least .

2. The other Finn whose name I can't spell. .

1. Simmonds starts the conversation at the least .

2. The other Finn whose name I can't spell. .
- Pelle31Forever

Poojarvee.

Bob does his homework & consults various teams so it's not without its merit
- ob18

Who says it wasn't? It's based on 10 NHL scouts. It's the most accurate list probably. Still leaves a lot of room for error. Wasn't Barzal 7 last year? Konecny 14?

Like I said, draft wants to go down this way, I won't gripe.

McKenzie's mock is usually pretty good, in terms of accuracy. He talks to everyone.
- Jsaquella

I don't question its and Bob's validity as far as talking to NHL scouts (although a ranking of 10 scouts is not the end all be all and the draft is always volatile)...I question the scouts' choices is what I mean.

I had no intention of bringing Umberger into the conversation. More intrigued by the thought of getting the 3rd overall.
- Pelle31Forever

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1. Simmonds starts the conversation at the least .

2. The other Finn whose name I can't spell. .
- Pelle31Forever

Columbus is in pretty dire need of Centers. I can't see them moving back to 18 and passing up all the Center's projected to go top 10. If I were them I trade back to take Keller and grab a youngish 2nd line Center in the trade.

I don't question its and Bob's validity as far as talking to NHL scouts (although a ranking of 10 scouts is not the end all be all and the draft is always volatile)...I question the scouts' choices is what I mean.
- Mononoke

True enough. But we always see a divergent path at some point of the first round-look at Boston's three 1st rounders last summer.

With news leaking about the gudas negotiation does 2 2nd rounders get the job done (this year and next year) for a trade to happen this week?

With news leaking about the gudas negotiation does 2 2nd rounders get the job done (this year and next year) for a trade to happen this week?
- ravishingone

How the hell did I miss this one

He won't bring a ton of offense.......but might fit into a team's top 4
- ob18

Probably more like a poor man's truculent jbo.

With news leaking about the gudas negotiation does 2 2nd rounders get the job done (this year and next year) for a trade to happen this week?
- ravishingone

He's a RFA so I wouldn't expect a trade, although it's certainly possible.

Who says it wasn't? It's based on 10 NHL scouts. It's the most accurate list probably. Still leaves a lot of room for error. Wasn't Barzal 7 last year? Konecny 14?

Like I said, draft wants to go down this way, I won't gripe.
- Mononoke

I don't imagine many lists will be anywhere close to accurate after pick #3.

I don't imagine many lists will be anywhere close to accurate after pick #3.
- Tomahawk

It's not a mock though, just a ranking.

It's not a mock though, just a ranking
- Mononoke

Even trying to rank 4-20 is a bit of a bum exercise this year.

See, the thing about Andersen that made him valuable is that he was good for the salary he was making, even if you gave him a raise. He was making, like, 2.3 or 2.6 or something. I thought he'd come in around $3.5-3.75, and that's where you get the value

But hell, if you're giving him $5...man. That's just a number that I wouldn't have paid, but as always, I'm just a guy on a laptop
- AllInForFlyers

That's just admitting how subpar your analytics are

Even trying to rank 4-20 is a bit of a bum exercise this year.
- Tomahawk

It's actually beyond 20 where I start getting confused.

Hextall has been talking about emphasizing size....which is fine provided they are good in everything else, but there's a lot of guys around our picks that scream "big guy, low ceiling"....god I hope we don't fall into that trap. More so with the 2 2nds.

Yes, Hextall seems adamant about not rushing a kid and they will need two stable goalies. Especially given that neither Mason nor Neuvirth is exactly Lou Gehrig or Cal Ripken when it comes to injury avoidance.
- Jsaquella

So far they have proven superior at disease avoidance though

What was the leaked news about the Gudas negotiation?

It's actually beyond 20 where I start getting confused.

Hextall has been talking about emphasizing size....which is fine provided they are good in everything else, but there's a lot of guys around our picks that scream "big guy, low ceiling"....god I hope we don't fall into that trap. More so with the 2 2nds.
- Mononoke

Despite that comment. What picks in your opinion has he made that show that trend?

Are you worried he thinks there is skill so he can focus on size? I dunno man I just see 2 years worth of valuing skill so I'm not too worried about what he might say in an interview

What was the leaked news about the Gudas negotiation?
- MikesPillBottle

He just said the talks aren't going well

It's actually beyond 20 where I start getting confused.

Hextall has been talking about emphasizing size....which is fine provided they are good in everything else, but there's a lot of guys around our picks that scream "big guy, low ceiling"....god I hope we don't fall into that trap. More so with the 2 2nds.
- Mononoke

I don't think they will... Hexy was really underscoring the need to add "skill", too.