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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
What team has used the buyout more than the Flyers have?
- PLindbergh31


Why does it matter?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
Hey everyone. Been a while since I posted but it's finally getting close enough to draft day so I guess I'll get involved.

Love what Hexy had to say. Unless we're moving into the top 8-10 I prefer to stand pat and draft one of Kunin, Bellows or Rubstov. Though I wouldn't be totally unhappy with Jones, Gauthier, McAvoy, Fabbro, Asplund or (bit of a reach at 18OA) Mascherin.

Now if we were to move up I'm looking at Sergachev, Keller, Brown, or Bean. Again, I don't see it being a priority on Hexy's agenda but maybe targeting COL at 10th OA could work. They seen to be at somewhat of an organizational crossroads.

Something like Schenn, 18th, 2016 2nd, 2017 2nd, and Hagg for 10th and a 2016/17 4th

Change Hagg to Sanheim and take out one of the 2nd's?

Or maybe

Schenn, Laughton, Hagg, 18th and 2017 2nd?

- Mordecai

You're serving up all of that to move up 8 spots? No, just no.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
Leroy Doppleganger @TSNNoNameGuy 21s21 seconds ago

BREAKING NEWS: Philadelphia Flyers trade defenseman Andrew MacDonald and forward Scott Laughton to Carolina Hurricanes for stuffs.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
Leroy Doppleganger @TSNNoNameGuy 21s21 seconds ago

BREAKING NEWS: Philadelphia Flyers trade defenseman Andrew MacDonald and forward Scott Laughton to Carolina Hurricanes for stuffs.

- jmatchett383


Who's spot does Stuffs take now with the expansion rules?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Why does it matter?
- jmatchett383

How many have they really used?

I'm assuming since every team used the two compliance buyouts we aren't counting them.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 16 @ 12:57 PM ET
Who's spot does Stuffs take now with the expansion rules?
- arichardson22


He's a rookie, so we're good.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
You're serving up all of that to move up 8 spots? No, just no.
- mayorofangrytown


Yeah it's probably too much. Then again no team is going to give away a top 10 pick. Depends on who is left in that spot I guess. Like I said I'd rather stand pat at 18.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Hey everyone. Been a while since I posted but it's finally getting close enough to draft day so I guess I'll get involved.

Love what Hexy had to say. Unless we're moving into the top 8-10 I prefer to stand pat and draft one of Kunin, Bellows or Rubstov. Though I wouldn't be totally unhappy with Jones, Gauthier, McAvoy, Fabbro, Asplund or (bit of a reach at 18OA) Mascherin.

Now if we were to move up I'm looking at Sergachev, Keller, Brown, or Bean. Again, I don't see it being a priority on Hexy's agenda but maybe targeting COL at 10th OA could work. They seen to be at somewhat of an organizational crossroads.

Something like Schenn, 18th, 2016 2nd, 2017 2nd, and Hagg for 10th and a 2016/17 4th

Change Hagg to Sanheim and take out one of the 2nd's?

Or maybe

Schenn, Laughton, Hagg, 18th and 2017 2nd?

- Mordecai


Maybe I'm overvaluing Schenn but those seem like an overpayment to go up 8 spots to me.

I'm thinking Schenn, 18 and one 2nd either this or next draft should get you to 10...even with Schenn being an RFA.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:00 PM ET
Leroy Doppleganger @TSNNoNameGuy 21s21 seconds ago

BREAKING NEWS: Philadelphia Flyers trade defenseman Andrew MacDonald and forward Scott Laughton to Carolina Hurricanes for stuffs.

- jmatchett383

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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Hey everyone. Been a while since I posted but it's finally getting close enough to draft day so I guess I'll get involved.

Love what Hexy had to say. Unless we're moving into the top 8-10 I prefer to stand pat and draft one of Kunin, Bellows or Rubstov. Though I wouldn't be totally unhappy with Jones, Gauthier, McAvoy, Fabbro, Asplund or (bit of a reach at 18OA) Mascherin.

Now if we were to move up I'm looking at Sergachev, Keller, Brown, or Bean. Again, I don't see it being a priority on Hexy's agenda but maybe targeting COL at 10th OA could work. They seen to be at somewhat of an organizational crossroads.

Something like Schenn, 18th, 2016 2nd, 2017 2nd, and Hagg for 10th and a 2016/17 4th

Change Hagg to Sanheim and take out one of the 2nd's?

Or maybe

Schenn, Laughton, Hagg, 18th and 2017 2nd?

- Mordecai


No way in hell!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
Hey everyone. Been a while since I posted but it's finally getting close enough to draft day so I guess I'll get involved.

Love what Hexy had to say. Unless we're moving into the top 8-10 I prefer to stand pat and draft one of Kunin, Bellows or Rubstov. Though I wouldn't be totally unhappy with Jones, Gauthier, McAvoy, Fabbro, Asplund or (bit of a reach at 18OA) Mascherin.

Now if we were to move up I'm looking at Sergachev, Keller, Brown, or Bean. Again, I don't see it being a priority on Hexy's agenda but maybe targeting COL at 10th OA could work. They seen to be at somewhat of an organizational crossroads.

Something like Schenn, 18th, 2016 2nd, 2017 2nd, and Hagg for 10th and a 2016/17 4th

Change Hagg to Sanheim and take out one of the 2nd's?

Or maybe

Schenn, Laughton, Hagg, 18th and 2017 2nd?

- Mordecai


I'd do Schenn, 18, 2 2nds and Hagg for #2 to get Laine. But WPG doesn't.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
Maybe I'm overvaluing Schenn but those seem like an overpayment to go up 8 spots to me.

I'm thinking Schenn, 18 and one 2nd either this or next draft should get you to 10...even with Schenn being an RFA.

- dragonoffrost


In theory sure. But again I doubt COL moves it for just a "fair" return. Probably not worth it in this draft.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:08 PM ET
thanks for your service umberger too bad it had to end this way
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Okposo signed a 5 yr deal with the Isle supposedly
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Yeah it's probably too much. Then again no team is going to give away a top 10 pick. Depends on who is left in that spot I guess. Like I said I'd rather stand pat at 18.
- Mordecai

I'd love to move up. Don't get me wrong. I want to move up from 18 and I want to move up into the bottom of the 1st round or early into the second. I just can't expend all of that to get there.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:09 PM ET
Hextall on if buying out Umberger was a tough decision...

"Not really"
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
In theory sure. But again I doubt COL moves it for just a "fair" return. Probably not worth it in this draft.
- Mordecai


Hexy will want fair value or no deal. He said he's content to stay at 18 unless the right deal comes along.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
Okposo signed a 5 yr deal with the Isle supposedly
- Marc D


Link/source/anything?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
Why does it matter?
- jmatchett383



Because then he can rip the team.

But for the record, 3. Briere, Bryzgalov, and now Umberger.

And after this off season other teams will join them in that number, some will pass them. But when the Flyers do it, each one counts as 2.

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
Maybe I'm overvaluing Schenn but those seem like an overpayment to go up 8 spots to me.

I'm thinking Schenn, 18 and one 2nd either this or next draft should get you to 10...even with Schenn being an RFA.

- dragonoffrost

If a young forward with 20+ goals under his belt doesn't move you from 18 to 10 then just brush your hands together and walk away. Schenn +18 should move you into the top ten.

I don't think you're over valuing Schenn at all.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jun 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
I'd love to move up. Don't get me wrong. I want to move up from 18 and I want to move up into the bottom of the 1st round or early into the second. I just can't expend all of that to get there.
- mayorofangrytown


For sure. One step forward, two steps back
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 16 @ 1:12 PM ET
Because then he can rip the team.

But for the record, 3. Briere, Bryzgalov, and now Umberger.

And after this off season other teams will join them in that number, some will pass them. But when the Flyers do it, each one counts as 2.

- MBFlyerfan



Worst run team in the NHL!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
Link/source/anything?
- arichardson22


New York Islanders ‏@NYIslanders 25 May 2011
#Isles agree to terms with Kyle Okposo on a five-year deal. http://ow.ly/532DE


oh poop, look at the date



I've been twittered
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 16 @ 1:14 PM ET
Worst run team in the NHL!

- MJL



turrbull!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 16 @ 1:16 PM ET
New York Islanders ‏@NYIslanders 25 May 2011
#Isles agree to terms with Kyle Okposo on a five-year deal. http://ow.ly/532DE


oh poop, look at the date


- Marc D




Nicely done.
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