Do you think with Hextall being the GM and having and seen probably more of Schenn then anyone else, with LA and Philly, he might have a feeling about giving him a long term deal?

I wonder sometimes that certain guys might not look the same to Hextall as they might have looked to Holmgren. Like Laughton. Maybe Hextall isn't as high as the previos regime was.
- J35Bacher

Hexy has said he'd like to resign Schenn, but I don't rule out moving him either. It's not likely, but Schenn has been on the block consistently from reports. But that was all before his great 2nd half of the season. Hexy and co challenged Schenn from the start and made it known this would be a crucial year to make strides with his development. And he responded with a solid season and did what they requested.

I do like the look of the new tundras
- GudasNew

Are you waiting until your new contract to make such a long term investment?

I don't know. Looks nice now.

Foligno cashed in on a nice season and backed it up with 12 goals.

There is risk either way. For me and just me. I am not sold that Schenn will get much better. And I think if the Flyers were completely sold on him he would have been locked up by now. But that's me.
- J35Bacher

I'm not sold he'll get much better either, but that's not really necessary. If he plays consistently like he did last season, puts up 20-25 goals and 25-30 assists, that's a pretty good player.
Sometimes in a contract negotiation, it's the player holding up the deal. The only thing that he's not been re-signed yet, shows, is that they haven't been able to come to a deal that both sides agreed to, at this point. The Flyers may have a value contract wise, and if his demands are more than they're willing to pay, then I could see them moving him. As with any player, even if they really like the player, if they're presented with a deal they feel makes the team better, they will make the deal.

No Show Joe™ showing us all why he was a 6th round pick.

Are you waiting until your new contract to make such a long term investment?
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah

Can we still talk about the draft prospects mentioned?

If Brayden Schenn played for another team, put up the numbers he did this past season, and was unsigned at this point. There would be a bunch of posts saying the Flyers should target him in a trade.

No Show Joe™ showing us all why he was a 6th round pick.
- Giroux_Is_God

Actually it was round 7. And he was passed over his first draft eligible year.

Can we still talk about the draft prospects mentioned?
- Mononoke

I dunno check the Code of Conduct

Can we still talk about the draft prospects mentioned?
- Mononoke

Which ones?

Actually it was round 7. And he was passed over his first draft eligible year.
- Mononoke

You're litrilly making my point for me.

If Brayden Schenn played for another team, put up the numbers he did this past season, and was unsigned at this point. There would be a bunch of posts saying the Flyers should target him in a trade.
- MJL

Of course, but that's only because all of our players suck and must be replaced immediately.

Except for our backup goalie, because we like his heart.

I would be very interested in trading down in this draft. Two potential deals that might make sense involve Toronto and Florida. Toronto has picks 29 or 30 and 31. Florida has picks 23 and 33. The flyers could trade their first, one of their seconds and maybe an extra late round pick.
The talent difference between 18 and the late first round is fairly small in my eyes, but there does seem to be a pretty big drop off in talent in the 40s. Rather than getting a Gauthier, Kunin or Jones(who are all pretty talented forwards) and a pretty middling 2nd rounder. The Flyers could come away with two of Asplund, Howden, Thompson, Dahlen, Tufte or Katchouk. The flyers need to expand their forward prospect pool, and the end of the first/start of the second has a lot of diversity in terms of skill, speed and size.

You're litrilly making my point for me.
- Giroux_Is_God

In his defense, it was the most elite draft ever.

Gauthier I have zero interest in. He's everything this team does not need: one dimensional net crasher, reliant on teammates, low hockey IQ, average skating. If you watched us get bounced in the playoffs and think THAT is what we need....well. Oh, and to the person who thought he was physical, he ain't. He's big but don't expect him to be throwing hits.

He is a player that when he is not scoring you realize just how little he often does. He scored a bunch of goals, but he only scored 7 or so in his last 26 games, I believe that stat was. And it was probably more a case of regression than just fluky unluckiness, like Konecny went through with a similar stretch early. His shot totals were low relative to other top goal scorers and his shooting % near 30 through much of the first half. And when the goals stopped, his stock started sinking. He was a lock top 10 pick after the WJC. Scoring goals can often act like a cover. When they stop, your game doesn't look so hot. His hockey sense is just lacking to me all over the ice. If that wasn't bad enough, he is one of the oldest players in the draft with a full development year on some kids. No thank you.

I would be very interested in trading down in this draft. Two potential deals that might make sense involve Toronto and Florida. Toronto has picks 29 or 30 and 31. Florida has picks 23 and 33. The flyers could trade their first, one of their seconds and maybe an extra late round pick.
The talent difference between 18 and the late first round is fairly small in my eyes, but there does seem to be a pretty big drop off in talent in the 40s. Rather than getting a Gauthier, Kunin or Jones(who are all pretty talented forwards) and a pretty middling 2nd rounder. The Flyers could come away with two of Asplund, Howden, Thompson, Dahlen, Tufte or Katchouk. The flyers need to expand their forward prospect pool, and the end of the first/start of the second has a lot of diversity in terms of skill, speed and size.
- TheGhost_isBare

I'm having a hard time following. Are you suggesting the Flyers package the #18 pick and other assets to get a later pick (23/29)? Or are you saying #18 for multiple picks?

If Brayden Schenn played for another team, put up the numbers he did this past season, and was unsigned at this point. There would be a bunch of posts saying the Flyers should target him in a trade.
- MJL

For me I feel like Schenn is a more glorified 3rd liner.

Yes he makes some good plays. But watching him I just don't see a great skill set from a guy probably wanting 5-6 million range.

I am probably not explaining it well. I just see things differently.

I would be very interested in trading down in this draft. Two potential deals that might make sense involve Toronto and Florida. Toronto has picks 29 or 30 and 31. Florida has picks 23 and 33. The flyers could trade their first, one of their seconds and maybe an extra late round pick.
The talent difference between 18 and the late first round is fairly small in my eyes, but there does seem to be a pretty big drop off in talent in the 40s. Rather than getting a Gauthier, Kunin or Jones(who are all pretty talented forwards) and a pretty middling 2nd rounder. The Flyers could come away with two of Asplund, Howden, Thompson, Dahlen, Tufte or Katchouk. The flyers need to expand their forward prospect pool, and the end of the first/start of the second has a lot of diversity in terms of skill, speed and size.
- TheGhost_isBare

First of all, I don't know really anything about any of those players. Just from a philosophy standpoint, I'd rather go with a strategy of acquiring quality, over quantity, in the first round.

For me I feel like Schenn is a more glorified 3rd liner.

Yes he makes some good plays. But watching him I just don't see a great skill set from a guy probably wanting 5-6 million range.

I am probably not explaining it well. I just see things differently.
- J35Bacher

a true cowboys fan

Gauthier I have zero interest in. He's everything this team does not need: one dimensional net crasher, reliant on teammates, low hockey IQ, average skating. If you watched us get bounced in the playoffs and think THAT is what we need....well. Oh, and to the person who thought he was physical, he ain't. He's big but don't expect him to be throwing hits.

He is a player that when he is not scoring you realize just how little he often does. He scored a bunch of goals, but he only scored 7 or so in his last 26 games, I believe that stat was. And it was probably more a case of regression than just fluky unluckiness, like Konecny went through with a similar stretch early. His shot totals were low relative to other top goal scorers and his shooting % near 30 through much of the first half. And when the goals stopped, his stock started sinking. He was a lock top 10 pick after the WJC. Scoring goals can often act like a cover. When they stop, your game doesn't look so hot. His hockey sense is just lacking to me all over the ice. If that wasn't bad enough, he is one of the oldest players in the draft with a full development year on some kids. No thank you.
- Mononoke

I think if there at 18 I am leaning towards Bellows.

Curious as to who might drop like Konecny did last year.

For me I feel like Schenn is a more glorified 3rd liner.

Yes he makes some good plays. But watching him I just don't see a great skill set from a guy probably wanting 5-6 million range.

I am probably not explaining it well. I just see things differently.
- J35Bacher

Hey, if you have a 20 goal scorer, and a player who just put up 26 goals, and 33 assists, on the 3rd line, you must have a pretty dam good team.

I think if there at 18 I am leaning towards Bellows.

Curious as to who might drop like Konecny did last year.
- J35Bacher

Matthews?

Gauthier I have zero interest in. He's everything this team does not need: one dimensional net crasher, reliant on teammates, low hockey IQ, average skating. If you watched us get bounced in the playoffs and think THAT is what we need....well. Oh, and to the person who thought he was physical, he ain't. He's big but don't expect him to be throwing hits.

He is a player that when he is not scoring you realize just how little he often does. He scored a bunch of goals, but he only scored 7 or so in his last 26 games, I believe that stat was. And it was probably more a case of regression than just fluky unluckiness, like Konecny went through with a similar stretch early. His shot totals were low relative to other top goal scorers and his shooting % near 30 through much of the first half. And when the goals stopped, his stock started sinking. He was a lock top 10 pick after the WJC. Scoring goals can often act like a cover. When they stop, your game doesn't look so hot. His hockey sense is just lacking to me all over the ice. If that wasn't bad enough, he is one of the oldest players in the draft with a full development year on some kids. No thank you.
- Mononoke

Would love to hear your thoughts on 5-7th round targets

Max Jones. I see what is to like, unlike Gauthier. But I have issues with him too. I think he's crazy skilled, great skating, not a tire fire defensively, and he always hustles. You notice him. My issue is I think his offensive ceiling is questionable. I'm not basing that off points....he was on the 2nd line and PP behind Marner and Company. I simply think he has low offensive (key word) hockey IQ. Everything he does is 1 on 1 dangles and blow-bys off the rush. As soon as the puck gets into the offensive zone and the cycle game is established, he really disappears. He just doesn't seem to read plays, always late to the party getting to where he should. It's always noticeable if you iso-cam on him. Off the rush: dynamic. Offensive zone: can seem invisible.

I think he has a good floor, but his raw skills don't match up with his mind imo. There's a reason he went from top 5 pick to top 20-something. It isn't magic. There's a reason Tkachuk played on Marner's LW and not him: hockey IQ. He just doesn't have the presence of mind and puck retrieval abilities of a Bellows or Tkachuk.

Would love to hear your thoughts on 5-7th round targets
- YuenglingJagr

lol