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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 3 @ 11:36 AM ET
I honestly don't know what would give you that feeling.
- MJL


Hextall's blank stare into Brayden's eyes as he completed the trade call of Luke to LA on speakerphone

"Sure you can throw in whomever, it doesnt matter to us...Weal, as in Jordan? A center that can play wing? That should help our depth down the middle, we accept that deal"
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 11:37 AM ET
I honestly don't know what would give you that feeling.
- MJL



Things I read and hear. Just my opinion when looking at the totality of all the tings out there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:38 AM ET
ISWYDT
- YuenglingJagr


YWYHASP
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 11:44 AM ET
Columbus wouldn't, unless they could unload one of their NMCs...they'll have a hard time with expansion if they need to protect them all, adding Schenn won't help them.

I think that Schenn, Sanheim, #18, 2017 1st, and maybe a guy like Straka/Leier. Basically, some big overpayment.

- jmatchett383



Damn.

Just saw what Foligno and Dubinsky are getting.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 11:46 AM ET
Damn.

Just saw what Foligno and Dubinsky are getting.

- J35Bacher


Yeah, they're screwed. You may be able to sweeten the deal by taking someone back (like Tyutin, if he'd waive).
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 11:50 AM ET
Yeah, they're screwed. You may be able to sweeten the deal by taking someone back (like Tyutin, if he'd waive).
- jmatchett383


Tyutin was the one I was thinking about since it is the last year of his deal.

flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 3 @ 11:55 AM ET
If we can trade up into the top 10 (which I think is a possibility) I really really want to draft Jake Bean, I saw him play a few games this season (his d partner this season was sanheim) and he looked great, I also think he will still be there come 10 of 11.
Tomahawk
Location: No More Tortellini
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Jimmy got waxed on that trade
- YuenglingJagr


But Pierre said it was a "home run" for the Canucks... and he's never wrong... just look at how Luke "Franchise Double Dion" Schenn turned out.




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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 3 @ 12:00 PM ET
Yeah, they're screwed. You may be able to sweeten the deal by taking someone back (like Tyutin, if he'd waive).
- jmatchett383


I don't think it's a stretch to think most of them would waive to get out of Columbus.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:06 PM ET
If we can trade up into the top 10 (which I think is a possibility) I really really want to draft Jake Bean, I saw him play a few games this season (his d partner this season was sanheim) and he looked great, I also think he will still be there come 10 of 11.
- flyers4487



Other then the top 3 there just aren't a lot of guys I really am in love with. There are a couple I like(Bellows, Jones, Jost, Dubois) but no one that just I absolutely need.

I would be open in moving 18 if it got me a young forward. Someone like Shaw, Trouba(only defender), Rackell, Nichushkin. Would the Islanders move Strome?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:19 PM ET
Probably when Hexy said, "We're not really that high on Braydon, at this point."
- jmatchett383



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:23 PM ET
Things I read and hear. Just my opinion when looking at the totality of all the tings out there.
- J35Bacher



How does the 26 goals and 33 assists factor in?
flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Jun 3 @ 12:28 PM ET
Other then the top 3 there just aren't a lot of guys I really am in love with. There are a couple I like(Bellows, Jones, Jost, Dubois) but no one that just I absolutely need.

I would be open in moving 18 if it got me a young forward. Someone like Shaw, Trouba(only defender), Rackell, Nichushkin. Would the Islanders move Strome?

- J35Bacher

Exactly, its all a crap shoot, I just really dont want to make a stupid move involving overpayment to get into the top 5.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:39 PM ET
How does the 26 goals and 33 assists factor in?
- MJL


#2fancy
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:41 PM ET
Damn.

Just saw what Foligno and Dubinsky are getting.

- J35Bacher


Nick Foligno sure cashed in during a year where he had a shooting percentage of 17%. He's always been overrated to me.

And Brandon Dubinsky is a nice player, but not "6 years-35 million dollars" nice.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:43 PM ET
Nick Foligno sure cashed in during a year where he had a shooting percentage of 17%. He's always been overrated to me.

And Brandon Dubinsky is a nice player, but not "6 years-35 million dollars" nice.

- johndewar


Would you rather have Dubinsky at his deal, or Kesler at his (six-year, $41.25-million)?

A lot of these deals scream (to me), "Sure, I'll play and live in Columbus, if you pay me enough."
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 3 @ 12:47 PM ET
Would you rather have Dubinsky at his deal, or Kesler at his?

A lot of these deals scream (to me), "Sure, I'll play and live in Columbus, if you pay me enough."

- jmatchett383


Kesler, probably.

I could be overpaid to live in Columbus. I think.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:49 PM ET
How does the 26 goals and 33 assists factor in?
- MJL



I don't know. Looks nice now.

Foligno cashed in on a nice season and backed it up with 12 goals.

There is risk either way. For me and just me. I am not sold that Schenn will get much better. And I think if the Flyers were completely sold on him he would have been locked up by now. But that's me.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
Would you rather have Dubinsky at his deal, or Kesler at his (six-year, $41.25-million)?

A lot of these deals scream (to me), "Sure, I'll play and live in Columbus, if you pay me enough."

- jmatchett383[/
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Kind of why I think you see reports of Trouba wanting 7mil a season in WPG.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
Kesler, probably.

I could be overpaid to live in Columbus. I think.

- johndewar


I'd rather have Dubisnky, but they're both bad.

I've been to Columbus, granted only for 1 night. No thank you.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
Kind of why I think you see reports of Trouba wanting 7mil a season in WPG.
- J35Bacher


Absolutely.

"You want me to play in your desolate tundra? Fine, (frank) you, pay me."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
Something something Rangers suck.
GudasNew
Florida Panthers
Location: DE
Joined: 03.03.2015

Jun 3 @ 1:02 PM ET
Absolutely.

"You want me to play in your desolate tundra? Fine, (frank) you, pay me."

- jmatchett383


I do like the look of the new tundras
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:03 PM ET
Absolutely.

"You want me to play in your desolate tundra? Fine, (frank) you, pay me."

- jmatchett383



Do you think with Hextall being the GM and having and seen probably more of Schenn then anyone else, with LA and Philly, he might have a feeling about giving him a long term deal?

I wonder sometimes that certain guys might not look the same to Hextall as they might have looked to Holmgren. Like Laughton. Maybe Hextall isn't as high as the previos regime was.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 3 @ 1:04 PM ET
Absolutely.

"You want me to play in your desolate tundra? Fine, (frank) you, pay me."

- jmatchett383



Like the goalie in slapshot.

"Trade me right (frank)ing now!"

hangs up phone.
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