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Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 26 @ 8:02 PM ET
Won't he want a ridiculous amount of money, though?
- Hank3Henshaw

Ridiculous, no. I don't think so. He will definitely be making less than he did this year.
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 27 @ 11:27 AM ET
I acknowledged that I misread that. No need for name calling, ya donkey.
- j.boyd919

Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 27 @ 12:26 PM ET
Gudbranson is not an NHL player. So yeah, you lose. McCann can never play a game with the Cats and you lost.
- Blackstrom2


are you retarded ?

Their was talk about him being the next captain...he hit hard and play great D..not a top pairing guy because of the lack of offense, but no problem playing him on a second pairing with an offensive guy !
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 27 @ 1:50 PM ET
are you retarded ?

Their was talk about him being the next captain...he hit hard and play great D..not a top pairing guy because of the lack of offense, but no problem playing him on a second pairing with an offensive guy !

- Xizord

Yeah this isn't correct. The only people calling for captaincy were some fans. He did hit hard. Great D? No. Decent D? Sure. He was injured last season during a fight and never really was the same after.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

May 27 @ 2:41 PM ET
Good trade by the kitties. Gudbranson was a bust. Can't believe your blogger didn't start off post by saying "Gudbranson trade proof that Panthers fans exist"
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 27 @ 5:48 PM ET
Good trade by the kitties. Gudbranson was a bust. Can't believe your blogger didn't start off post by saying "Gudbranson trade proof that Panthers fans exist"
- BringNYIhome

He wasn't a bust at all. He just is what he is; a hard hitting stay at home D. Pros and cons like most, but he sort of hit his ceiling at 24 and with Petrovic out playing him for the most part last year this was a necessary move. Love the kid but it was a necessary move.
PanthersGoal
Florida Panthers
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Joined: 08.21.2007

May 27 @ 8:09 PM ET
He wasn't a bust at all. He just is what he is; a hard hitting stay at home D. Pros and cons like most, but he sort of hit his ceiling at 24 and with Petrovic out playing him for the most part last year this was a necessary move. Love the kid but it was a necessary move.
- Panthers88



He was just expendable.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
He was just expendable.
- PanthersGoal

Yeah that was probably the word I was looking for.
harveykline
Joined: 09.01.2009

May 27 @ 10:38 PM ET
Radulov or McCann?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 28 @ 2:03 AM ET
That was because outside of tanev, you had a rookie in hutton learning the nhl, sbisa turning the puck over, edler having a miserable season and almost nothing else. It had everything to do with the fact that the canucks d was frankly pretty terrible.

I think trading away a 2nd and a 4th along with a 19 y/o first rounder playing his first season of pro hockey for a guy that gives you nothing offensively and a 4-5 at best defensively isn’t necessarily a smart thing to do for a rebuilding team. You’re also going to have to pay him shortly…

I don’t see that florida really needed mccann, but with the picks involved I’d give the win to the panthers. Straight up without the picks it would have been closer.

- Isles_since_6


McCaan was trying to sleep with Demkos girlfriend and Demko is a better prospect then McCaan.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 28 @ 2:07 AM ET
So he's acquired:
Sutter, Granlund, Gudbranson, Dorsett , Larsen, Etem, Baertschi, Prust, Sbisa, Pedan, Vey, 2nd 2nd, 3rd, 5th round picks for

given up:
Kesler, Shinkaruk, Garrison, Costello, Clendening, Jensen, Malet, kassian (I understand), Bieksa, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 5th, and 6th

That seems terrible! draft pick mismanagement

EDIT: I think im missing 1 or 2 more smaller trades

- DeflatedPucks


Fixed as both Mccaan and Bonino came from the kesler trade. Unless you're going to put Bonino on both sides. Doesn't look so bad anymore...
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 28 @ 6:54 PM ET
It's funny how black and white people are making this trade.. This trade could easily work out for both teams. Yeah the Canucks traded away potential but they also got back the best player in the trade. And more often then not when you get the best player in a deal you win the trade.. Mccann will be a solid player I don't doubt it, I'd say 2nd line. But moving him to the wing might change things who knows..Canucks don't make this trade without having the 5th pick this year to replace him, is pretty simple.. While the Canucks haters and analytics guys wanna act like this trade is so clear cut and done, let's be real here it'll be probably 3-5 years before we have any idea who wins this trade. And in the meantime Vancouver gets a 24yr old 2nd pair Dman
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 28 @ 8:34 PM ET
It's funny how black and white people are making this trade.. This trade could easily work out for both teams. Yeah the Canucks traded away potential but they also got back the best player in the trade. And more often then not when you get the best player in a deal you win the trade.. Mccann will be a solid player I don't doubt it, I'd say 2nd line. But moving him to the wing might change things who knows..Canucks don't make this trade without having the 5th pick this year to replace him, is pretty simple.. While the Canucks haters and analytics guys wanna act like this trade is so clear cut and done, let's be real here it'll be probably 3-5 years before we have any idea who wins this trade. And in the meantime Vancouver gets a 24yr old 2nd pair Dman
- MaWLz

Good post until you said Gudbranson is a 2nd pair guy. He really isn't. Also, I'm thinking McCann will play center and Nick Bjugstad will move to wing where I think he will ultimately be a better NHL player. You are right about you guys having the #5 pick; without it this trade doesn't happen.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 28 @ 8:42 PM ET
Radulov or McCann?
- harveykline

Florida is no longer pursuing Radulov.
Dollars2Donuts
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.30.2015

May 28 @ 8:53 PM ET
A few notable points.....

After next year Gud will be a UFA and the Canucks have no real control over this player.

That being said, nobody can judge his trade right now. There are a dozen dmen in the nhl that are considered stars (not superstars) that came not the nhl in their age 23 or 24 season. Next year is Gud's age 24 season.

The next thing I will say is that now that Gud is gone, Brian Campbell will no longer be as good a fit in FLA. A guy like BC fits much better when a player like Gud is on the roster.

Next, McCann will not be an NHL centre. He plays like a winger and until he is cast as a winger he will never be successful. So, the Canucks did not even trade away a C I in my opinion. McCann was a solid pick at 24 but he has a long way to go before becoming a top 9 forward on a good team.

Giving up the picks hurts, but if they sign Gud to a 6 year deal at ~$4.25-4.45 they will be in good shape and he will be. There when the team starts to come around.

Hutton and Tanev are both going to be very solid for years to come. They need to dump Edler somehow and draft a dman or two and they will be ok long term.

Just my thoughts
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 28 @ 9:12 PM ET
A few notable points.....

After next year Gud will be a UFA and the Canucks have no real control over this player.

That being said, nobody can judge his trade right now. There are a dozen dmen in the nhl that are considered stars (not superstars) that came not the nhl in their age 23 or 24 season. Next year is Gud's age 24 season.

The next thing I will say is that now that Gud is gone, Brian Campbell will no longer be as good a fit in FLA. A guy like BC fits much better when a player like Gud is on the roster.

Next, McCann will not be an NHL centre. He plays like a winger and until he is cast as a winger he will never be successful. So, the Canucks did not even trade away a C I in my opinion. McCann was a solid pick at 24 but he has a long way to go before becoming a top 9 forward on a good team.

Giving up the picks hurts, but if they sign Gud to a 6 year deal at ~$4.25-4.45 they will be in good shape and he will be. There when the team starts to come around.

Hutton and Tanev are both going to be very solid for years to come. They need to dump Edler somehow and draft a dman or two and they will be ok long term.

Just my thoughts

- Dollars2Donuts

Gudbranson REPORTEDLY turned down 4 years at $4.5 mil.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

May 29 @ 12:14 AM ET
A few notable points.....

After next year Gud will be a UFA and the Canucks have no real control over this player.

That being said, nobody can judge his trade right now. There are a dozen dmen in the nhl that are considered stars (not superstars) that came not the nhl in their age 23 or 24 season. Next year is Gud's age 24 season.

The next thing I will say is that now that Gud is gone, Brian Campbell will no longer be as good a fit in FLA. A guy like BC fits much better when a player like Gud is on the roster.

Next, McCann will not be an NHL centre. He plays like a winger and until he is cast as a winger he will never be successful. So, the Canucks did not even trade away a C I in my opinion. McCann was a solid pick at 24 but he has a long way to go before becoming a top 9 forward on a good team.

Giving up the picks hurts, but if they sign Gud to a 6 year deal at ~$4.25-4.45 they will be in good shape and he will be. There when the team starts to come around.

Hutton and Tanev are both going to be very solid for years to come. They need to dump Edler somehow and draft a dman or two and they will be ok long term.

Just my thoughts

- Dollars2Donuts


Usually the Canucks waste their pick on some washout college kid when they're picking in the mid 20's. I guess they were betting with house money once it became apparent McCann was going to play in the NHL.

Those picks though..
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 29 @ 1:05 AM ET
Gudbranson REPORTEDLY turned down 4 years at $4.5 mil.
- Panthers88


Denied by him, his father, his agent, the team and later retracted by the reporter who wrote the story.... but you know.. don't let them darn facts ruin things for you, lol

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 29 @ 1:07 AM ET
Usually the Canucks waste their pick on some washout college kid when they're picking in the mid 20's. I guess they were betting with house money once it became apparent McCann was going to play in the NHL.

Those picks though..

- fry



LOL, I approve this post, mainly because the last canuck 2nd round pick to play in the NHL was trip over the blueline drinking game hero Mason Raymond......

those picks indeed
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 29 @ 8:53 AM ET
Denied by him, his father, his agent, the team and later retracted by the reporter who wrote the story.... but you know.. don't let them darn facts ruin things for you, lol


- Pres.cup

I said REPORTEDLY, but you know, whatever helps you think you have a franchise player on your blue line.
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 29 @ 12:54 PM ET
Good post until you said Gudbranson is a 2nd pair guy. He really isn't. Also, I'm thinking McCann will play center and Nick Bjugstad will move to wing where I think he will ultimately be a better NHL player. You are right about you guys having the #5 pick; without it this trade doesn't happen.
- Panthers88

Well whether he is or not, he will be on this team with Hutton is what I was getting at. And until Mccann figures it out he will be a winger... 36% in the dot, was way too weak
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 29 @ 3:02 PM ET
Well whether he is or not, he will be on this team with Hutton is what I was getting at. And until Mccann figures it out he will be a winger... 36% in the dot, was way too weak
- MaWLz

Yeah he won't be playing center here so not too worried about that.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 29 @ 6:10 PM ET
I said REPORTEDLY, but you know, whatever helps you think you have a franchise player on your blue line.
- Panthers88


Then retracted.... so not reported at all...... you know kinda like if I said "hey, want ten dollars" and you say "yes, please" to which I say nope, just (frank)ing with you".
doesn't mean that I actually gave or really offered you ten dollars and for you to tell people that I did.... well that's just silly.
Panthers88
Florida Panthers
Location: It's gonna be a long one.., FL
Joined: 07.21.2009

May 29 @ 9:08 PM ET
Then retracted.... so not reported at all...... you know kinda like if I said "hey, want ten dollars" and you say "yes, please" to which I say nope, just (frank)ing with you".
doesn't mean that I actually gave or really offered you ten dollars and for you to tell people that I did.... well that's just silly.

- Pres.cup

......... what?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 30 @ 12:33 AM ET
......... what?
- Panthers88


The person who reported the story would not confirm and later retracted the story regarding Guddy turning down 18m x 4
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