EVERYBODY CALM DOWN

Bobby Ryan from ottawa to play RW. He has a long term contract but could be had for very little, a couple of draft picks.

Yikes...I had no idea Carolina's roster was such a dumpster fire....

Those trade proposals are awful, by the way. With the exception of the Hornqvist one - I bet Pitt would pull the trigger on that deal. They'd just plug some other random UFA into that slot, a la Kunitz, Neal, Perron, etc. Anyone can produce playing with Crosby and / or Malkin

Yikes...I had no idea Carolina's roster was such a dumpster fire....

Those trade proposals are awful, by the way. With the exception of the Hornqvist one - I bet Pitt would pull the trigger on that deal. They'd just plug some other random UFA into that slot, a la Kunitz, Neal, Perron, etc. Anyone can produce playing with Crosby and / or Malkin
- AxlRose91

Pittsburgh doesn't have a top 6 on the market. Hagelin and Hornqvist are both good fits. kessel would be availalbe as he hasn't been as good of fit but they would still want a tier 2 star. A guy who can carry his own line. After that most of the forwards are young elc guys that are not true top 6 guys.

Kunitz has a decent chance of being available as a salary cap casualty.

Probably what a Yakupov deal will look like. A high risk hockey move where Edmonton has to hope their new guy makes the team AND Yakupov doesn't find a way out of his slump (or what ever the heck you want to call it is).

I don't like it but they are kind of limited in their options.
- Steven_Dean

Brett Pesce would be a top 4 D man on Edmonton right now.

Also, most of these are bad deals.

That's an absolutely grotesque overpayment for Patrick Hornqvist.

You honestly think that the cost to acquire Eberle is: Brett Pesce, Keegan Lowe, mid-range pick (3rd/4th round)....

What are you smoking???

The Oil would be looking for a serious D - try Justin Faulk.

Most of the other trades are delusional as well. One of the Funniest posts in a long time...
- mbell

Eberle isn't worth Faulk. People with hockey IQ knows this. Not close.

Brett Pesce would be a top 4 D man on Edmonton right now.
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Eberle, Yak and our 1rst for Faulk and your 1rst.

Eberle isn't worth Faulk. People with hockey IQ knows this. Not close.
- Oneonta Penguin

On his own, no. But in a package...

Yikes...I had no idea Carolina's roster was such a dumpster fire....

Those trade proposals are awful, by the way. With the exception of the Hornqvist one - I bet Pitt would pull the trigger on that deal. They'd just plug some other random UFA into that slot, a la Kunitz, Neal, Perron, etc. Anyone can produce playing with Crosby and / or Malkin
- AxlRose91

UMMM ... no, not everyone produces with Crosby and Malkin. If you have been paying attention, there have been problems finding people that can.

On his own, no. But in a package...
- Wildschwein

Why would anyone want Yukupov? He is absolute garbage. Don't use the excuse he has been misused in Edmonton. He has been a complete failure since his rookie year.

People in your own fanbase said Faulk for Eberle straight up. Jordan Eberle is one of the most overhyped players in this league, especially by your fan base.

Eberle, Yak and our 1rst for Faulk and your 1rst.
- Wildschwein

No.

I mean, it's probably fair, and COULD be a great deal, but it doesn't really fill any needs for the Canes and makes them a lot weaker on D.

Why would anyone want Yukupov? He is absolute garbage. Don't use the excuse he has been misused in Edmonton. He has been a complete failure since his rookie year.

People in your own fanbase said Faulk for Eberle straight up. Jordan Eberle is one of the most overhyped players in this league, especially by your fan base.
- Oneonta Penguin

And? I have no control over this.

These are not the kinds of trades the Hurricanes should be pursuing.

Rather than a value-for-value trade, they should be looking to poach players from cap-strapped teams who need relief, like the deal they made for Versteeg and Nordstrom last year.

They have space. Many teams do not. Use that to your advantage rather than trying to make deals with teams on an even footing.

Outside of that, UFA has plenty of big middle-six forwards to fill out the roster.

No.

I mean, it's probably fair, and COULD be a great deal, but it doesn't really fill any needs for the Canes and makes them a lot weaker on D.
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Guess it all depends on your perspective on where the Canes currently sit in their rebuild. From what I've seen you guys need an influx of skill in your top 6. Eberle provides that, Yak might and the pick is what it is.
Losing Faulk would hurt no doubt. Might be you could package the Oil's pick for help on D? Who knows. But D definitely appears to be Carolina's position of strength.

Guess it all depends on your perspective on where the Canes currently sit in their rebuild. From what I've seen you guys need an influx of skill in your top 6. Eberle provides that, Yak might and the pick is what it is.
Losing Faulk would hurt no doubt. Might be you could package the Oil's pick for help on D? Who knows. But D definitely appears to be Carolina's position of strength.
- Wildschwein

It is, but he's our #1 right now, and there's not really a need to weaken the top end of that position.

If anything, should be trading away a couple D prospects and buying low from teams that need cap space.

Canes biggest need is skill at forward, but with next year being rebound year #1, there's no need to rid themselves of top-end talent at any position to add at another.

It is, but he's our #1 right now, and there's not really a need to weaken the top end of that position.

If anything, should be trading away a couple D prospects and buying low from teams that need cap space.

Canes biggest need is skill at forward, but with next year being rebound year #1, there's no need to rid themselves of top-end talent at any position to add at another.
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Fair enough.

Demers is in no way better than Faulk, who is an established top-4 guy.
- Zupes

I never said that. That comment was in reference to the article which was offering Pesce- who Demers is definitely better than.

Brett Pesce would be a top 4 D man on Edmonton right now.
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All fine and dandy but on a competitive team (kinda what we're aiming for this coming year), he's currently a #5 or #6 Dman. If we're moving a top line winger like Eberle we have to be getting back at least a proven top-4 guy in return.

All fine and dandy but on a competitive team (kinda what we're aiming for this coming year), he's currently a #5 or #6 Dman. If we're moving a top line winger like Eberle we have to be getting back at least a proven top-4 guy in return.
- MaximumBone

That depends on a bunch of things, but yes, right now I'd say he's probably a #5 on a good team.

All of this is moot anyway. The two teams are not good trading partners, really.

That depends on a bunch of things, but yes, right now I'd say he's probably a #5 on a good team.

All of this is moot anyway. The two teams are not good trading partners, really.
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Until the Oilers get a RHD that can protect any prospects they acquire. I could see them being interested in Pesce and/or McKeown if they got a guy like Hamonic (though, that ship has already sailed).

The fact Hornqvist sports a reasonable cap hit for the next two years and has a unique skill set for the Penguin roster, he isn't likely to be moved. I know you said bonus, but he is probably one of the least likely to be moved.
- Oneonta Penguin

No doubt. It would be interesting nonetheless given the history between GM's.

Can we have Mckeown back
- KINGS67

Nope.

You honestly think that the cost to acquire Eberle is: Brett Pesce, Keegan Lowe, mid-range pick (3rd/4th round)....

What are you smoking???

The Oil would be looking for a serious D - try Justin Faulk.

Most of the other trades are delusional as well. One of the Funniest posts in a long time...
- mbell

Well, I'm not smoking anything. But I can't see Faulk moving under any circumstances. He had 12 PPG's inside of 3 months to start the year and while I'm sure he attracts a lot of interest league wide, no amount of offensive shortcomings would justify dealing him. IMO.

Hoss, how are you trading a 3rd pairing D, AHL D and a garbage pick for one of the premier right wingers in the game? The AI in NHL 95 wouldn't even take that trade. There is nothing on that roster beyond Faulk that gets you close to Eberle.
- seoinyoung

It was "possible cost to acquire", not "definitive price to make trade", bo.

Ok seriously dude, do you really think anyone is gonna give you a top 6 forward for the crap you are including? Would you take pieces in the Corrado, Loov, Brown, mid round picks range for Lindholm? Because that is the value you are putting on Nyqvist, Eberle, etc. Barring giving up a top 4 defensive prospect and the 13th overall pick you are not getting a young top 6 winger.
- Steven_Dean

We will see. Top 4 defenseman (or those with potential to be Top 4 Dmen) are harder to acquire, especially in today's NHL. Pesce's value is in the fact he's able to produce while being extremely responsible in his own end. He's a D first, but EDM needs that mentality and in my estimation, they are going to have to pay to get it.

The trades aren't that off. Pesce is a big young right handed D so teams will get overly excited about him. Trying to take advantage of potentially cap strapped teams like the Rangers and red wings is actually really smart. Might have to take on an additional bad contract for the trades to make perfect sense though.
- Feds91Stammer

I think Kreider and Tatar are probably two that are more likely to acquire than Eberle or Nyquist. But in sheer terms of what they can do for the Canes, I think Nyquist fits the bill the best out of the bunch highlighted. Solid post though.

It may not work with some of the players mentioned in this post, but don't underestimate the power of the cap. LA, Chicago, St Louis, NY, etc... All may need to make some room under the cap and may be willing to move a very good player for projects or slightly lesser talent. I've seen it every year for the last 6 years (and will likely again this year).
- Chunk

Indeed. And the Canes, with or without the players mentioned in my article, will be the beneficiary. Imagine where Carolina may have been this past season without Nordstrom and Versteeg.

Bobby Ryan from ottawa to play RW. He has a long term contract but could be had for very little, a couple of draft picks.
- tuna99

Potentially - but his cap hit and term are such that the Canes are likely to shy away. Just a bit much to invest in one player, at least at this point in the process.

Also, most of these are bad deals. That's an absolutely grotesque overpayment for Patrick Hornqvist.

These are not the kinds of trades the Hurricanes should be pursuing. Rather than a value-for-value trade, they should be looking to poach players from cap-strapped teams who need relief, like the deal they made for Versteeg and Nordstrom last year. They have space. Many teams do not. Use that to your advantage rather than trying to make deals with teams on an even footing. Outside of that, UFA has plenty of big middle-six forwards to fill out the roster.
- BINGO!

It's pretty easy to see that we have two completely different views about this team. And that's not a bad thing.

But to say a 13th overall pick and a appreciable prospect in McGinn for a player of Hornqvist's caliber is 'grotesque' is simply inaccurate. Goal scorers are at a premium right now, and we need them. Do we need one badly enough to move our top pick and a solid forward prospect? Maybe, maybe not. But it wasn't listed as something with any likelihood - just that the particulars are in place to make any potential talks between the two teams interesting, if nothing else.

We need appreciable players who can contribute to the team and the mission of making the playoffs. We did the poaching last season and it helped for where we are. But this could be a turning point season with a couple of acute fixes. I'll be covering the UFA angle later this week, but there's little doubt in my mind, at least, that a trade is not only probable, but necessary given where the Hurricanes are.