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mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 9 @ 6:05 PM ET
He'll be just fine
- ob18

You don't know that.

This game could define his entire career. Matthews didn't just steal the puck off of his stick, he stole all of his mojo.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
laine will be fine eh?
- Giroux_Is_God


Unless he becomes a Maple Leaf
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
You don't know that.

This game could define his entire career. Matthews didn't just steal the puck off of his stick, he stole all of his mojo.

- mayorofangrytown


I can't buy this at all sir
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
I can't buy this at all sir
- ob18

How about for a buck?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 9 @ 6:36 PM ET
How about for a buck?
- mayorofangrytown


No
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
Kane has never reached UFA status. If Kane was a UFA, what would he get?
- MJL


It depends how much of your cap can be dedicated to one player considering age, on ice performance and any off ice situations. I would have a hard time justifying much more then 15 % of the total cap for one player. Granted, the cap is a sliding value from year to year.

With the Hawks it may be a long time till the toews and Kane situation arises again. Finishing their second contracts with already 2 cups won under the age of 27 and then won another after the negotiations for the third contract.

I just don't see a market where Stamkos will make more per year then toews and Kane. Of course anything is possible.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 9 @ 7:06 PM ET
laine will be fine eh?
- Giroux_Is_God


he'll drop to 17
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 9 @ 7:07 PM ET
You don't know that.

This game could define his entire career. Matthews didn't just steal the puck off of his stick, he stole all of his mojo.

- mayorofangrytown


he better get on the horn to jobu. pronto.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 9 @ 7:27 PM ET
he better get on the horn to jobu. pronto.
- hammarby31


(frank) you, Jobu. I do it myself.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 9 @ 7:29 PM ET
(frank) you, Jobu. I do it myself.
- tangent_man


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 9 @ 7:39 PM ET
It depends how much of your cap can be dedicated to one player considering age, on ice performance and any off ice situations. I would have a hard time justifying much more then 15 % of the total cap for one player. Granted, the cap is a sliding value from year to year.

With the Hawks it may be a long time till the toews and Kane situation arises again. Finishing their second contracts with already 2 cups won under the age of 27 and then won another after the negotiations for the third contract.

I just don't see a market where Stamkos will make more per year then toews and Kane. Of course anything is possible.

- ravishingone


I think 10.5M is a ball park number for Stamkos worth. The question is what happens if there is a bidding war between teams? Personally, I'd rather have Toews or Kane over Stamkos.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 9 @ 7:56 PM ET
I think 10.5M is a ball park number for Stamkos worth. The question is what happens if there is a bidding war between teams? Personally, I'd rather have Toews or Kane over Stamkos.
- MJL


You and I are both old enough to pretty much have seen all of Brett hull s career. As he aged into his thirties certainly his skating diminished, but that shot was always there. I can see Stamkos aging similarly. Also Stamkos isn't a perimeter player exclusively but he seems to avoid a lot of unnecessary hits that lesser forwards endure. The leg injury was more of a fluke play.

The major concern I have with Stamkos is the blood clots. I don't have enough information or am smart enough to know if this problem will persist (see Chris bosh). IMO he will get over 9 million per year but won't get more then toews and Kane
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 8:02 PM ET
You and I are both old enough to pretty much have seen all of Brett hull s career. As he aged into his thirties certainly his skating diminished, but that shot was always there. I can see Stamkos aging similarly. Also Stamkos isn't a perimeter player exclusively but he seems to avoid a lot of unnecessary hits that lesser forwards endure. The leg injury was more of a fluke play.

The major concern I have with Stamkos is the blood clots. I don't have enough information or am smart enough to know if this problem will persist (see Chris bosh). IMO he will get over 9 million per year but won't get more then toews and Kane

- ravishingone

My good friend here at school is like the second cousin of Brett Hull.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 9 @ 8:02 PM ET
Gudbranson signs for 1 year 3.5 mil. Not a bad comp to gudas.

Be lucky to get him in that 2.5-3 range
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 8:24 PM ET
what the heck man
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 9 @ 8:28 PM ET
It takes just two teams to create a bidding war.
- ravishingone


Bryzgalov says hi.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 9 @ 8:38 PM ET
I think 10.5M is a ball park number for Stamkos worth. The question is what happens if there is a bidding war between teams? Personally, I'd rather have Toews or Kane over Stamkos.
- MJL

oh really Toews and Kane are available?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 8:38 PM ET
oh really Toews and Kane are available?
- 2Real

Can you read? It appears yes.

Can you comprehend what you read? That's taking the next step.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 9 @ 9:03 PM ET
Can you read? It appears yes.

Can you comprehend what you read? That's taking the next step.

- Giroux_Is_God



MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 9 @ 9:28 PM ET
Usually after the Flyers are eliminated. I end up rooting for good hockey and as I watch all the series', I will usually find myself rooting for a team more than the others. I've discovered tonight that I am rooting for St.Louis.

Not an unlikable player in the bunch.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 9:32 PM ET
Usually after the Flyers are eliminated. I end up rooting for good hockey and as I watch all the series', I will usually find myself rooting for a team more than the others. I've discovered tonight that I am rooting for St.Louis.

Not an unlikable player in the bunch.

- MBFlyerfan

Welcome. Been my Western team for years
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 9 @ 9:37 PM ET
Welcome. Been my Western team for years
- Giroux_Is_God


normally its been the Kings, ever since the Gretzky days, but they arent there.......
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 10:13 PM ET
Where's kari lettin em in when you need him
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 10:24 PM ET
oh damn that was nice
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 10:43 PM ET
STL has turned brain dead these last 4 minutes
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