I don't think my view on Pouliot is far from consensus. My view is he's an average 5/6 regular season NHL dman right now. He's not a playoff legit contender 5/6 D. I think he has potential.

I just think those guys cost more to resign than everyone else.
- sditulli

Isn't DP only 22? I think he will be a really good 5/6 dman next year. Of course we thought this, this year too. He should be fine, I wouldn't worry about him too much.

That's a huge desperation move if I've ever seen one.... basically admitting there other 9 forwards can't beat ours so get ovie away so he can score.

I'd assume the matchup would be ovie vs Malkin's line... wonder if that's what they show, will Sully put Rust up in Fehrs spot to counter with some speed.

Either way Sids line benefits from softer minutes so it could still be a wash.
- Yonk1216

I think they need to try something to get more offense going. If the Pens can get the early lead, all the pressure will be on the caps.

sid nominated for heart

I don't think my view on Pouliot is far from consensus. My view is he's an average 5/6 regular season NHL dman right now. He's not a playoff legit contender 5/6 D. I think he has potential.

I just think those guys cost more to resign than everyone else.
- sditulli

I think DP has the talent to become a Trevor Daley type.. mid pairing Offensive Dman. But hes no where near there yet, and seems to have regressed from earlier this season now that its the playoffs.

Gotta stop Richarding this kid around, or just trade him before we completely cripple his value like we did to Despres.

Got this little blurb from Yohe on DK's site...

• There is a closeness on this Penguins team that is unique. I’m not suggesting the locker room has been a problem in previous seasons, because I don’t think it has been. But this locker-room dynamic is different. Just a close, close team.

I too think this ends tomorrow. I just think the Pens are the better overall team. Every line can score and it's backstopped by a kid that's unflappable.
- madmike71

No Craig Adams in the locker room.

Fehr and Rust confirmed again after the morning skate... so no setbacks

Finish them.

sid nominated for heart
- martox

I don't trust you

I don't trust you
- pensfan024

https://www.nhl.com/news/...c-280593608?tid=277729400

I think DP has the talent to become a Trevor Daley type.. mid pairing Offensive Dman. But hes no where near there yet, and seems to have regressed from earlier this season now that its the playoffs.

Gotta stop Richarding this kid around, or just trade him before we completely cripple his value like we did to Despres.
- Guile

I don't think Pouliot has regressed. I think he's a little rusty and not ready for playoff hockey. Young defensemen are probably mismanaged more than any other position. You take a first round defenseman and its a 6-7 year process before you get the guy you drafted. Coaching staffs do not have that much patience. I don't think we crippled Depres value. The lovejoy trade was widely regarded as a vast overpayment. If I was a GM I'd actively shop for 23-24 year old dmen with potential whose current franchise is getting frustrated with. Seems like a light clicks at 25 in a lot of them. Then you can have them for their prime and sign them right as they are turning into good players and before they are high priced UFA guys. We should have drafted Forsberg as forwards develop much faster. But yes I think Pouliot eventually becomes something like Daley or Goligoski with the potential to be a little bit better. Next year we need to play Pouliot 60 games to get him the experience he needs.

I don't think Pouliot has regressed. I think he's a little rusty and not ready for playoff hockey. Young defensemen are probably mismanaged more than any other position. You take a first round defenseman and its a 6-7 year process before you get the guy you drafted. Coaching staffs do not have that much patience. I don't think we crippled Depres value. The lovejoy trade was widely regarded as a vast overpayment. If I was a GM I'd actively shop for 23-24 year old dmen with potential whose current franchise is getting frustrated with. Seems like a light clicks at 25 in a lot of them. Then you can have them for their prime and sign them right as they are turning into good players and before they are high priced UFA guys. We should have drafted Forsberg as forwards develop much faster. But yes I think Pouliot eventually becomes something like Daley or Goligoski with the potential to be a little bit better. Next year we need to play Pouliot 60 games to get him the experience he needs.
- sditulli

He had a great chance to make this club out of camp and blew it. I think he has regressed. IMO, next year is a very big year for him, much like I said a year ago regarding brittle Beau. I'm not about to put DP in the BB category just yet, but ...

What a difference depth will do, totally agree what's the expression you are as strong as your weakest link.

Q as great as a coach that he is really screwed the pooch with Daley, I thought as the season was going along he was getting better, unfortunately the Hawks are at home golfing now.

Mr Wilson so much for Daley having the worst Corsi Fenwick stats when the Hawks were forced to take him in a trade first and foremost it's a team game and if others aren't carrying there weight it can have an incredible bearing on another's stats.

2nd you don't have to look any further than Seabrook, he's been paired with rookies all year and everyone on our board is crying about how bad his stats are? Without acknowledging he's been playing with rookies all year.

Good luck you guys are playing well so are the Bolts that ought to be a great series.

He had a great chance to make this club out of camp and blew it. I think he has regressed. IMO, next year is a very big year for him, much like I said a year ago regarding brittle Beau. I'm not about to put DP in the BB category just yet, but ...
- Oneonta Penguin

I'm starting to come to your side here, OP. I've given up on Beau. I haven't given up on Pouliot, but I listen hard on any trade offers this off-season. I could live with some of DP's defensive struggles if he was displaying brilliance in the offensive zone...but he simply has not. Hasn't been a factor in the Powerplay, has only scored what, 1 goal as a penguin?

He had a great chance to make this club out of camp and blew it. I think he has regressed. IMO, next year is a very big year for him, much like I said a year ago regarding brittle Beau. I'm not about to put DP in the BB category just yet, but ...
- Oneonta Penguin

You are talking right past me. I don't expect a 21 year old defenseman no matter how talented he is to be the preferrred option over a 31 year experienced Ben Lovejoy. 8D on a contender is only a little bit slow for the development pace of a young dman. AHL plus NHL call-up is fine for his development path. Next year he should be the 7D and play 60 games if you want him to get the experience he needs. Season after he should be our 6D. By the time he's 24/25 he should be sliding into a good 4D spot.

Look at this list. The only guys being listed as bust who were top 10 picks are young defenseman.
http://www.thesportster.c...ready-look-like-busts/13/

You can't define a defenseman as a bust unless he's not showing the physical traits developing that you saw in him at 18 or he turns 25.

Fehr is definitely playing tonight... I think if we keep the game tied or have the lead after the first, we finish this series in five. The only adjustment that I would like to see is using Dumolion more. He has the ability to play on the PP. His minutes are very low for his talent level.

He had a great chance to make this club out of camp and blew it. I think he has regressed. IMO, next year is a very big year for him, much like I said a year ago regarding brittle Beau. I'm not about to put DP in the BB category just yet, but ...
- Oneonta Penguin

They were counting on him taking a spot which makes it worse. I'm not sold on him either at this point. Sure he has potential but there are plenty of occasions where he's just barely hanging on under pressure.

It's too early to give up on the kid, but I'd listen to offers. Especially if they think they can get Schultz to return a decent price.

I really don't like trading him. Penguins do not need to add anything for next year (especially if Sprong is ready). The following year he's our best option to replace Daley. I'm not a fan of resigning Daley who will be 33 following that year. He has 18 months to learn how to be an effective playoff defenseman.

2 years from now if everything goes perfect we can run
Letang maata dumoulin schultz pouliot cole. All of them have the potential to be 2nd pairing guys. Maybe cole is a career bottom pairing guy.

i wonder how set they are on playing Kuznetsov with Ovechkin and Backstrom on another line. I get the idea that they would be able to retain Backstrom versus Crosby while getting Ovechkin freed from Crosby, but then who do they want Ovechkin's new line up against? Because without Backstrom that line isn't very good defensively, and either Malkin's line or Kessel's line would cause them problems.

They should leave Rust up with Malkin and Kunitz.

I really don't like trading him. Penguins do not need to add anything for next year (especially if Sprong is ready). The following year he's our best option to replace Daley. I'm not a fan of resigning Daley who will be 33 following that year. He has 18 months to learn how to be an effective playoff defenseman.

2 years from now if everything goes perfect we can run
Letang maata dumoulin schultz pouliot cole. All of them have the potential to be 2nd pairing guys. Maybe cole is a career bottom pairing guy.
- sditulli

Actually, I think Shultz could be Daley's replacement the way he is looking. Offensively, I think he is there. Its how good is he defensively that is the question. Personally, I'm not sure where Shultz's defensive capabilities fall in at. We are sheltering him a good bit, like we did with Niski... and he has a REALLY bad rap sheet from Edmonton as his history before now.

Actually, I think Shultz could be Daley's replacement the way he is looking. Offensively, I think he is there. Its how good is he defensively that is the question. Personally, I'm not sure where Shultz's defensive capabilities fall in at. We are sheltering him a good bit, like we did with Niski... and he has a REALLY bad rap sheet from Edmonton as his history before now.
- Guile

Quite possible whoever flagged Schultz as a potential addition is a genius. For rental defensemen he is much better than weber who also costs a 3rd. I'd like to keep Schultz and Pouliot and hope one of them turns into the Daley replacement and the other can become what nisky was to us when he was the 5d.

Scultz is 25. That is the age when the lights come on for a lot of dmen. Maybe add a year since Gonchar has to un-teach him everything he learned in Edmonton.

Quite possible whoever flagged Schultz as a potential addition is a genius. For rental defensemen he is much better than weber who also costs a 3rd. I'd like to keep Schultz and Pouliot and hope one of them turns into the Daley replacement and the other can become what nisky was to us when he was the 5d.

Scultz is 25. That is the age when the lights come on for a lot of dmen. Maybe add a year since Gonchar has to un-teach him everything he learned in Edmonton.
- sditulli

I think he might have been one of RW's fancy stat pickups... or someone here just throwing out a dirt cheap change of pacer.

I really don't like trading him. Penguins do not need to add anything for next year (especially if Sprong is ready). The following year he's our best option to replace Daley. I'm not a fan of resigning Daley who will be 33 following that year. He has 18 months to learn how to be an effective playoff defenseman.

2 years from now if everything goes perfect we can run
Letang maata dumoulin schultz pouliot cole. All of them have the potential to be 2nd pairing guys. Maybe cole is a career bottom pairing guy.
- sditulli

I couldn't agree more. He's 22 and has little value around the league, just like Dumo two years ago or even last year. Now Dumo is a top 4 fixture for the Pens that I expect will be a Pen for quite a while. We have defensive depth right now, but will prob lose Lovejoy and possibly Schultz after this season. After that Pens have a bunch of career AHL'ers and two youngins who haven't even played for WBS yet on the blue line. Unless another team overvalues DP and knocks GMJR's socks off Pouliot will be a Pen next season and be the 6 or 7d.

Just read that Malkin is going to be a father? wow


edit with source:

http://capelino.com/evgen...erfeed&utm_medium=twitter


double edit: holy poop is it just me, or is that writing terrible? Like someone just did a google translate from russian to english.

Just read that Malkin is going to be a father? wow
- Guile

Score Jr?

Just read that Malkin is going to be a father? wow
- Guile

congrats to him