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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:51 PM ET
Eagles are such a mess of a franchise. It's like they're trying to make Jerry Jones jealous by making big moves that never pan out.
- Nucker101


Why dont you wait and see?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
Why dont you wait and see?
- YuenglingJagr

because jumping to conclusions is better
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
Well this awkward. I've been watching all the games, updated my Twitter following lists and worst of all, I'm deeply in love with you.
- Nucker101


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 28 @ 2:56 PM ET
Why dont you wait and see?
- YuenglingJagr

Because I want to say "I told you so" later
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 28 @ 2:58 PM ET
because jumping to conclusions is better
- 2Real


Might I suggest this nice mat to help? MADE IN AMERICA!:

JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:00 PM ET
How about trading up for Laine?
- jmatchett383


Yes, please. I'd offer the Ekblad deal that fell apart to get it done.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 28 @ 3:02 PM ET
Because I want to say "I told you so" later
- Nucker101


and back pedal into the bushes if you are wrong?

Say whatever you want about Wentz/Goff/Jones...

without a legit qb threat...your team is nothing. did the broncos just win a SB without a qb? yeah pretty much...so it could happen. But look at any team out there with consistent success year after year...they have a great QB. The Eagles are going for it...QB or bust. If it fails they clean house...if it doesnt they get a great QB. A few draft picks on non QBs arent going to get them to be a contender anyway
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 28 @ 3:05 PM ET
I splurged on a new hockey stick. I'm trying a new curve, and it's a doozy.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
and back pedal into the bushes if you are wrong?

Say whatever you want about Wentz/Goff/Jones...

without a legit qb threat...your team is nothing. did the broncos just win a SB without a qb? yeah pretty much...so it could happen. But look at any team out there with consistent success year after year...they have a great QB. The Eagles are going for it...QB or bust. If it fails they clean house...if it doesnt they get a great QB. A few draft picks on non QBs arent going to get them to be a contender anyway

- YuenglingJagr


Bradford's second half was top-10 last year... He has the potential to be top-5 once he gets back all his lower body strength, and manages to stay healthy.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 28 @ 3:07 PM ET
lmao
- funmaster18

thank you, wasn't sure if I had another joke in me after GIG overshadowed my first one
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 28 @ 3:09 PM ET
How about trading up for Laine?
- jmatchett383

Holy poop. What would that take?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
and back pedal into the bushes if you are wrong?

Say whatever you want about Wentz/Goff/Jones...

without a legit qb threat...your team is nothing. did the broncos just win a SB without a qb? yeah pretty much...so it could happen. But look at any team out there with consistent success year after year...they have a great QB. The Eagles are going for it...QB or bust. If it fails they clean house...if it doesnt they get a great QB. A few draft picks on non QBs arent going to get them to be a contender anyway

- YuenglingJagr


I'm thinking that Provorov will be the best of the bunch.
TheGhost_isBare
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bridgeport, CT
Joined: 03.24.2015

Apr 28 @ 3:11 PM ET
I really wouldn't mind drafting Gauthier around 17/18, if he's still there. I think that he could be a really good compliment to Konecny in the future.
- Coleman


Anyone but Gautheir. His all around game is really weak and he can't produce much offense on his own. At best he can score like Simmonds, but play without the physciality and energy Wayne brings. There are better options around that point of the draft. I am hoping someone like, Brown, McAvoy or Jost falls in a similar fashion to Conner and Barzal last year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:12 PM ET
Holy poop. What would that take?
- mayorofangrytown


A lot. But since we're talking about draft fantasy land, just figured I'd chime in.

Our 2016 1st, to start
Probably Simmonds
Sanheim
One of Laughton/Stolarz/Lyon

Not giving up Provorov, Ghost, Morin, or Konecny. After that, all of our prospects are in play for one of the Finns, assuming they are coming to NA next year.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
Anyone but Gautheir. His all around game is really weak and he can't produce much offense on his own. At best he can score like Simmonds, but play without the physciality and energy Wayne brings. There are better options around that point of the draft. I am hoping someone like, Brown, McAvoy or Jost falls in a similar fashion to Conner and Barzal last year.
- TheGhost_isBare


People would be so pissed if they draft jost.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 28 @ 3:13 PM ET

- Mononoke


heeeeeeee's a communist!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:15 PM ET
and back pedal into the bushes if you are wrong?

Say whatever you want about Wentz/Goff/Jones...

without a legit qb threat...your team is nothing. did the broncos just win a SB without a qb? yeah pretty much...so it could happen. But look at any team out there with consistent success year after year...they have a great QB. The Eagles are going for it...QB or bust. If it fails they clean house...if it doesnt they get a great QB. A few draft picks on non QBs arent going to get them to be a contender anyway

- YuenglingJagr

I won't have to back pedal. But I'll happily do it if I'm wrong. I hope I have to hear "I told you so" instead but I doubt it
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
A lot. But since we're talking about draft fantasy land, just figured I'd chime in.

Our 2016 1st, to start
Probably Simmonds
Sanheim
One of Laughton/Stolarz/Lyon

Not giving up Provorov, Ghost, Morin, or Konecny. After that, all of our prospects are in play for one of the Finns, assuming they are coming to NA next year.

- jmatchett383


Eh, I'd be willing to do Simmonds, 2016 1st, 2017 1st
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
Bradford's second half was top-10 last year... He has the potential to be top-5 once he gets back all his lower body strength, and manages to stay healthy.
- JFlyers00


I'm sceptical of Howie/Pederson's eye for QB talent with their first two acquisitions being Chase Daniel and Carson Wentz and spending valuable assets to get them(whether it being $$$ or picks).
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 28 @ 3:18 PM ET
heeeeeeee's a communist!
- hammarby31

Communism was just a red herring
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:18 PM ET
Communism was just a red herring
- BulliesPhan87


Only if you don't put it in proper context.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
Anyone but Gautheir. His all around game is really weak and he can't produce much offense on his own. At best he can score like Simmonds, but play without the physciality and energy Wayne brings. There are better options around that point of the draft. I am hoping someone like, Brown, McAvoy or Jost falls in a similar fashion to Conner and Barzal last year.
- TheGhost_isBare


I could see Gauthier scoring 25 goals or so in a heavily sheltered role. If he gets remotely close to 60 points in the NHL, I will be in shock.

I like Jost and Brown a lot, but that's trade up territory. McAvoy could fall. He's the only top guy I've never seen (Rubtsov too actually), and I'm not sure where his stock is. I think McKenzie's recent list had him top 15. A bit surprising but I've heard good things. So not really. My dream is a trade up for Keller who I think has a higher ceiling than Jost and Brown, but could go after them. He strikes me as one of the steals of the draft if he goes 11-13. Short of that: Rubtsov or Bellows at our pick.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
BURN THEM ALL!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
I could see Gauthier scoring 25 goals or so in a heavily sheltered role. If he gets remotely close to 60 points in the NHL, I will be in shock.

I like Jost and Brown a lot, but that's trade up territory. McAvoy could fall. He's the only top guy I've never seen (Rubtsov too actually), and I'm not sure where his stock is. I think McKenzie's recent list had him top 15. A bit surprising but I've heard good things. So not really. My dream is a trade up for Keller who I think has a higher ceiling than Jost and Brown, but could go after them. He strikes me as one of the steals of the draft if he goes 11-13. Short of that: Rubtsov or Bellows at our pick.

- Mononoke



At 17-18 I am hoping for Bellows or Jones.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
Was there anything more to that Hockey Central comment yesterday about the Flyers being linked to Jimmy Vesey other than that one line of speculation?
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