The CBC panel definitely doesn't like him.
- classic321

A lot of people don't like WD but Benning and Trevor do . If he keeps sh1tting the bed it will catch up

Comets with OT wing. Grenier with the winner. Subban got the first one.
- VANTEL

I think Subban will make a good offensive dman in this league in a couple years.

so let me get this straight....you credit WD with getting them to playoffs and ANY success but its not his fault when they lose and finish almost dead last?? THats pretty selective opinion there.
And this years roster was far better than last years at that. Of course MANY coaches are good with youngsters, he's not the only 1.

He isnt NHL quality, he's in way over his head. Even broadcasters on television were laughing at him. Seems like a decent guy n all but hes a WHL/AHL coach, not NHL. D coach is even worse and MORE of a reasoning for our failure than WD.

We need coaches that use a style that wins cup as every cup winner for quite a number of years has had that. Obviously you cant win it without that. So we should pursue a coach that uses THAT instead. No point in having a coach that cannot win the cup.
- SMBDragon

Calm down. I didn't really credit him with anything. I said he did OK with the young kids. I don't think he's gonna be the guy to win us a cup by any means but slamming him over and over about style is ridiculous. I just think everyone has to be accountable and I'd say the defense has been the biggest problem on the team period. If we had a coach right now like you say "wins cups", he wouldn't have the team to do it. The best coach in the world couldn't win a cup with this team. I agree that coaching makes a difference but I don't think it would on thus team. We just aren't that good.

I don't think trading for picks is JB's plan now.
I see keeping our picks this draft prolly n maybe trade for a key player or 2.
I'm still wanting an OS on a young D.
1-2 UFA's & we r done.

Calm down. I didn't really credit him with anything. I said he did OK with the young kids. I don't think he's gonna be the guy to win us a cup by any means but slamming him over and over about style is ridiculous. I just think everyone has to be accountable and I'd say the defense has been the biggest problem on the team period. If we had a coach right now like you say "wins cups", he wouldn't have the team to do it. The best coach in the world couldn't win a cup with this team. I agree that coaching makes a difference but I don't think it would on thus team. We just aren't that good.
- WhatTheNuck

carlyle got the LEAFS roster into the playoffs and were minutes from defeating the bruins in the playoffs. In the bruins heyday. THe LEAFS roster for crying out loud lol! The right coach can do much better with ours.
No you credited him with getting us to the playoffs last year. So it was him last year to credit but this year wasnt his fault.

I also agreed and said the D coach was the biggest issue we have. Since he's been here we have had the worst D in the league, which adds up.

I don't think trading for picks is JB's plan now.
I see keeping our picks this draft prolly n maybe trade for a key player or 2.
I'm still wanting an OS on a young D.
1-2 UFA's & we r done.
- Nighthawk

Offer sheets don't happen anymore

well said.
I think Burrows has such a big fanbase, that most casual fans are not going to be turned off if he see's out his contract.
I could see him being moved, but since we're not making any playoff runs next year, i don't see the justification around buying him out.
- dbot

This is exactly how I see it. Not like he totally sucks hes just not what he used to be and not worth his contract but since he makes much less than his cap hit you may as well just deal with it. If I am JB I am expecting another rough year next year, then you get higgins, burrows and miller off your books with that money and the money from this year, two years of high draft picks then you look to add your free agents.

To people saying add Lucic, erickson etc. its a waste they arent turning this team in to a playoff team. If we wana be that team fighting for a playoff spot for the next 10 years instead of contending rush the rebuild.

I say wait another year then hope benn and hedman both make it to free agency. Stamkos is the only this year and I dont see how he should be the top paid player in the league, hes not even top 10 then you factor in injuries, health issues just pass and save the money for cap strapped teams and UFAs to fill in holes once you add a few years of high draft picks.

I think Subban will make a good offensive dman in this league in a couple years.
- Retinalz

If he can be a legit bottom pairing and PP guy that will help us big time. Now if Stecher can fall in to that 2nd pairing with Tanev on the 1st we all of a sudden arent to bad on Defense. Although its no different than our forward group. We just lack top end talent at every position other than goal.

roster wise JB has retooled it each and every summer. Lets hope we are in for some pleasant surprises.
Some players could be moved in a trade for picks prior to draft as well. Move up? Extra picks? Anything could happen....

Should be an interesting summer that answers a lot about where we go
- SMBDragon

I think so too. They say they have a plan but the moves they make dont suggest that. I think that is why the fan base has bailed. Hopefully this summer there plan is more clear.

A lot of people don't like WD but Benning and Trevor do . If he keeps sh1tting the bed it will catch up
- VANTEL

Better sooner that later, but we have to wait till those 2 actually do it.
IF the right guy were to somehow become available Id say they do it this summer

carlyle got the LEAFS roster into the playoffs and were minutes from defeating the bruins in the playoffs. In the bruins heyday. THe LEAFS roster for crying out loud lol! The right coach can do much better with ours.
No you credited him with getting us to the playoffs last year. So it was him last year to credit but this year wasnt his fault.

I also agreed and said the D coach was the biggest issue we have. Since he's been here we have had the worst D in the league, which adds up.
- SMBDragon

Your comparison to Carlyle is my point except WD did it he first year as coach. Carlyle also missed the playoffs the next year after and was fired the following year after. I fail to see your point with that one ...

This year stunk but I think coaching was a small part of that. Going forward to next year, maybe he stays. Maybe he goes, but if you think a coach change is going to make this team better than a bubble playoff team, don't you think that's a stretch?

I think WD is just what the team needed at the time. As the team grows, he may too. If the team outgrows him then sure, explore options but at the present time I feel the point is moot. Just let the team find an identity and go from there. After the Sedins are gone is when the real struggle begins if we don't do things right for the next two years. Even then who is gonna carry the torch? Not many on the current roster are gonna be the next core of players. One more year and one more draft and I may have a different opinion but until then coaching isn't gonna fix the problem this team has. Then again? Maybe next year is different and things start looking up? Who knows? This is a process, not a 'who can we place blame on this year' type scenario. So many things need to be fixed. Wasnt this the worse season in Canuck history for some parts or at least close? Man that's alot to put on coaching... its just not that simple.

carlyle got the LEAFS roster into the playoffs and were minutes from defeating the bruins in the playoffs. In the bruins heyday. THe LEAFS roster for crying out loud lol! The right coach can do much better with ours.
No you credited him with getting us to the playoffs last year. So it was him last year to credit but this year wasnt his fault.

I also agreed and said the D coach was the biggest issue we have. Since he's been here we have had the worst D in the league, which adds up.
- SMBDragon

Doesn't it work the other way then? If the coaching staff is to blame for this season, then they also get credit for making the playoffs last season?

Doesn't it work the other way then? If the coaching staff is to blame for this season, then they also get credit for making the playoffs last season?
- CubanBuffet

Depends on your opinion

Doesn't it work the other way then? If the coaching staff is to blame for this season, then they also get credit for making the playoffs last season?
- CubanBuffet

which was my point....if youre gonna credit him w last season then they are on the hook for this season too.

which was my point....if youre gonna credit him w last season then they are on the hook for this season too.
- SMBDragon

I'm a little confused. Did you really want to make the playoffs this year? You do realize the team was without Edler and Sutter, right? The Sedins went cold (maybe injured, maybe not). We were in a great position, but with no depth and now we have a great draft pick. Why are you so bothered by the coaching?

I just watched Boyle's 'tirade'. Seemed pretty reasonable. Just wanted the guy he hates to leave. Pretty level headed, firm but not polite. I liked his approach.

I'm a little confused. Did you really want to make the playoffs this year? You do realize the team was without Edler and Sutter, right? The Sedins went cold (maybe injured, maybe not). We were in a great position, but with no depth and now we have a great draft pick. Why are you so bothered by the coaching?
- micah555

Micah: Yes Id always want to make the playoffs. Should be the constant goal.

we need a coach that comes in a imparts an actual system of play. THis bunch has none. We need to employ a defense system for our D that has sensible zone exit strategies (none currently), rebound collection and proper forecheck/backcheck. Also one that protects the goalies weak spots. We have none of that. Since our D coach has come on board we have had the worst D in the NHL. THat speaks volumes.

WD is also not very good either. Rolls lines in sequence 1234 1234 1234 no matter whats actually going on in the game. Cant adjust a game worth a sh(t. Makes extremely questionable lineup decisions....such as playing dorsett top minutes when down a goal, playing him on every line.

Guys getting schooled by other coaches every night. Every television broadcasters are making fun of him on live TV. Not NHL calibre so why have him here?

THe true reason though is to impart a new system of play, one that teaches players where to be on the ice it will take time for players to learn and not truly contending will be a reality. We need these young players learning this system NOW, not later. THats why you do it now. So we can have it in place to be contender in a few years.
Look at hitchcock (a true teaching coach) n the blues....theyve been coming on and getting stronger for years as players learn his preachings on player position. Now they finally are ready to make a run but it took quite some time. Lets get this type coach in place so in a few years we can be there too with a strong team.

Hopefully that answers your question

We should probably fire the coach and GM every year we don't win the cup because if there's anything that helps strengthen an organization it's instability.

Micah: Yes Id always want to make the playoffs. Should be the constant goal.

we need a coach that comes in a imparts an actual system of play. THis bunch has none. We need to employ a defense system for our D that has sensible zone exit strategies (none currently), rebound collection and proper forecheck/backcheck. Also one that protects the goalies weak spots. We have none of that. Since our D coach has come on board we have had the worst D in the NHL. THat speaks volumes.

WD is also not very good either. Rolls lines in sequence 1234 1234 1234 no matter whats actually going on in the game. Cant adjust a game worth a sh(t. Makes extremely questionable lineup decisions....such as playing dorsett top minutes when down a goal, playing him on every line.

Guys getting schooled by other coaches every night. Every television broadcasters are making fun of him on live TV. Not NHL calibre so why have him here?

THe true reason though is to impart a new system of play, one that teaches players where to be on the ice it will take time for players to learn and not truly contending will be a reality. We need these young players learning this system NOW, not later. THats why you do it now. So we can have it in place to be contender in a few years.
Look at hitchcock (a true teaching coach) n the blues....theyve been coming on and getting stronger for years as players learn his preachings on player position. Now they finally are ready to make a run but it took quite some time. Lets get this type coach in place so in a few years we can be there too with a strong team.

Hopefully that answers your question
- SMBDragon

For the love of god, please stop.

Thanks for speaking for me but you are wrong.
- boonerbuck

how about "everyone" in a general sense... cuz i frankly don't recall your opinion on the matter... it's not like i did a survey of every person on the planet to get their opinion on Dane Fox...

Micah: Yes Id always want to make the playoffs. Should be the constant goal.

we need a coach that comes in a imparts an actual system of play. THis bunch has none. We need to employ a defense system for our D that has sensible zone exit strategies (none currently), rebound collection and proper forecheck/backcheck. Also one that protects the goalies weak spots. We have none of that. Since our D coach has come on board we have had the worst D in the NHL. THat speaks volumes.

WD is also not very good either. Rolls lines in sequence 1234 1234 1234 no matter whats actually going on in the game. Cant adjust a game worth a sh(t. Makes extremely questionable lineup decisions....such as playing dorsett top minutes when down a goal, playing him on every line.

Guys getting schooled by other coaches every night. Every television broadcasters are making fun of him on live TV. Not NHL calibre so why have him here?

THe true reason though is to impart a new system of play, one that teaches players where to be on the ice it will take time for players to learn and not truly contending will be a reality. We need these young players learning this system NOW, not later. THats why you do it now. So we can have it in place to be contender in a few years.
Look at hitchcock (a true teaching coach) n the blues....theyve been coming on and getting stronger for years as players learn his preachings on player position. Now they finally are ready to make a run but it took quite some time. Lets get this type coach in place so in a few years we can be there too with a strong team.

Hopefully that answers your question
- SMBDragon

Carlyle, Nolan, Carbonneau, Wilson... all available.

I just watched Boyle's 'tirade'. Seemed pretty reasonable. Just wanted the guy he hates to leave. Pretty level headed, firm but not polite. I liked his approach.
- micah555

I thought it was ok too. For years Brooks wrote some things about him, and that was Boyles way of flipping him the bird on his way out.

Carlyle, Nolan, Carbonneau, Wilson... all available.
- kaptaan

I think WD is a rookie coach that gets schooled often by his piers. I also think he was the right coach for right now.

Canucks are trying to turn a Volvo into a Porsche in the middle of the race. Parts are constantly changing and they are figuring things out.

As far as WD not doing things the old fashion way and trying different things, good on him. The old fashion way has been falling apart for five years so why not try something new.

I came to realize my good buddy Linden Vey is a stop gap , maybe some fans here may start wanting to look at WD the same way.

I was just reading on Twitter about the Rangers and changes coming. At this point speculation , but some names thrown out there are Stepan, Brassard, Kreider, McDonah, Nash and Yandle.

With AVs history I bet we are in for hours of discussion.

There is a game 1 of round 2 on tonight before a game 7 of round 1. Wtf?