900k cap hit per year for Granlund. VERY Reasonable IMO.
- Codes1087

Takin care of business

Takin care of business
- VANTEL

I think its fair for both sides. Granlund can prove his worth over 2 years, and Benning gets a responsible utility center locked down.

Over the last four seasons he's averaged more goals than assists. This season was a career high with 22 goals. 16 assists.

The only way you need a guy to retrieve pucks for the twins is if you employ a dump and chase style. You would have to be a (frank)ing dummy coach to employ that scheme with the twins.

The twins gain the zone off the rush and then set up the cycle. Once the cycle is set they have no problems controlling the puck down low. IMO, they play their best hockey coming out of the corners to the net.

So what role does Hansen play in that scheme?

Hansen's skills are better used on other lines and goes beyond being a retriever for the twins.
- bloatedmosquito

Ya AV did that dump/chase nonsense with the twins in his time.
THe thing about hanson is he adds speed to that line. Hanson is best used as an on the rush player. Sedins too often sit just past the blue line on the wing and wait for the team to gain the zone then set up. Goalies are too good these days for that....best way for an effective sedin season is to come across the line and go straight down the center w speed. Hanson gives that option in the right scenario.

Id like to see what Rodin has for them, he's is fast. Ive seen his play....top notch.

900k cap hit per year for Granlund. VERY Reasonable IMO.
- Codes1087

who cares? They play in different leagues.

I am just teasing you bud cause we all know you are pro-Laine for 1st overall
- Codes1087

Well not exactly, I said he could end up going 1st. Sure I'd take him over mathews but if I had 1oa Id trade for the 2 or 3 spot and get extra assets.

Yes I know its different leagues...the numbers I posted were PO stats. WHen I saw 36 games for mathews I knew it wasnt POs. Even NHL has max 28 games.

- dbot

We all agree on that

We all agree on that
- VANTEL

I don't agree. I am a non conformist.

I don't agree. I am a non conformist.
- thundachunk

Get with the program man

Whose next Etem or Sven?

Whose next Etem or Sven?
- VANTEL

Sven

Sven
- A_SteamingLombardi

You figure in the 2 mil range?

You figure in the 2 mil range?
- VANTEL

1.8 mill per year on a 2 year... Count it

1.8 mill per year on a 2 year... Count it
- Codes1087

That's about right.

Ya AV did that dump/chase nonsense with the twins in his time.
THe thing about hanson is he adds speed to that line. Hanson is best used as an on the rush player. Sedins too often sit just past the blue line on the wing and wait for the team to gain the zone then set up. Goalies are too good these days for that....best way for an effective sedin season is to come across the line and go straight down the center w speed. Hanson gives that option in the right scenario.

Id like to see what Rodin has for them, he's is fast. Ive seen his play....top notch.
- SMBDragon

If Hansen's your only option for speed on the twin line then by all means slot Hansen in. But I would like to see other players get a shot. I know he would have to play on his off wing but I would like to see Sven Bärtschi get some more time.

The way he controls the puck in tight areas, speed, and he goes to the front of the net. Line would be as soft as butter but who cares; this ain't a playoff team so go out and score some exciting goals.

I'm going to use an example that some on here ain't going to like. Nick Bonino. Got a chance to play top 6 minutes and role when Malkin went down and what do you know? If you play a player with top 6 skills in a top 6 role he might have a better chance at succeeding.

If Hansen's your only option for speed on the twin line then by all means slot Hansen in. But I would like to see other players get a shot. I know he would have to play on his off wing but I would like to see Sven Bärtschi get some more time.

The way he controls the puck in tight areas, speed, and he goes to the front of the net. Line would be as soft as butter but who cares; this ain't a playoff team so go out and score some exciting goals.

- bloatedmosquito

I like the sound of that actually, just to see what he can do with them. Youre right, he has speed too. I didnt consider him as he and Bo seem to be a lock.
Hanson is great cause he can score, has great speed and grit too.
A player like Laine or Puljujarvi could make the sedins play like they are much younger.

Ultimately I like variety on the sedin line.

I like the sound of that actually, just to see what he can do with them. Youre right, he has speed too. I didnt consider him as he and Bo seem to be a lock.
Hanson is great cause he can score, has great speed and grit too.
A player like Laine or Puljujarvi could make the sedins play like they are much younger.

Ultimately I like variety on the sedin line.
- SMBDragon

I get what you are saying, but I am the opposite. I like consistency on the sedin line. They had Burrows/Vrbata/Hansen/Etem/Grenier/Vey/Sutter all play on their line the last few years. It's hard to gain chemistry when they constantly are being juggled a new line mate. Use the pre-season and training camps to see who would best fit, and give them 10 games minimum to see what happens.

wow tomorrow has a game 7 with the preds/ducks and game 1 of bolts/nyi.
Never seen that happen before that I recall.

I get what you are saying, but I am the opposite. I like consistency on the sedin line. They had Burrows/Vrbata/Hansen/Etem/Grenier/Vey/Sutter all play on their line the last few years. It's hard to gain chemistry when they constantly are being juggled a new line mate. Use the pre-season and training camps to see who would best fit, and give them 10 games minimum to see what happens.
- Codes1087

Consistency for what? Is it about keeping the twins producing or is it about developing a new young core of players? Any young player would benefit from spending some time playing with the twins. Great learning tool. Use it while you have it.

The twins will be around for another 2-3 years max. Get as many of your young prospects to play with and learn from these guys in meaningful situations.

I get what you are saying, but I am the opposite. I like consistency on the sedin line. They had Burrows/Vrbata/Hansen/Etem/Grenier/Vey/Sutter all play on their line the last few years. It's hard to gain chemistry when they constantly are being juggled a new line mate. Use the pre-season and training camps to see who would best fit, and give them 10 games minimum to see what happens.
- Codes1087

bro werent you saying earlier it always fizzles out??, and youre right. Well with the exception of burrows who lasted what 3-4 years?

There is something to the whole chemistry thing. THe sedins are special players and find that players game easily. Notice it never takes long with them to see if it works or not.
Im not condoning playing them w every roster player we have, Just have a few go to's for the right situations. Sutter for defensive zone for example. PP might be best for a net front presence, or even a burrows like behind net play.

Consistency for what? Is it about keeping the twins producing or is it about developing a new young core of players? Any young player would benefit from spending some time playing with the twins. Great learning tool. Use it while you have it.

The twins will be around for another 2-3 years max. Get as many of your young prospects to play with and learn from these guys in meaningful situations.
- bloatedmosquito

While I agree with you, Benning and Linden don't. They are all for playoffs and nothing short of it. They are not going to use the Sedin's as developing tools, they are going to use them as a line they expect to put up points every night. If this was a true rebuild, in which many I think had hoped for, prospects playing with the Sedins is the most ideal thing. The problem is, Benning and Linden are selling the "we want to be competitive now, and we want to make the playoffs now" and throwing in prospects and rookies to gain experience with the Sedin's is probably not a part of what they are trying to achieve for the 2016/2017 season. I agree with you 100% though, I just feel Benning and co do not.

- classic321

Well, they are the experts at this.

I get what you are saying, but I am the opposite. I like consistency on the sedin line. They had Burrows/Vrbata/Hansen/Etem/Grenier/Vey/Sutter all play on their line the last few years. It's hard to gain chemistry when they constantly are being juggled a new line mate. Use the pre-season and training camps to see who would best fit, and give them 10 games minimum to see what happens.
- Codes1087

Consistency is great when it happens (rarely, Burrows is the only player i can think of that consistently played at a high level with the twins).
I think variety is needed as other teams learn how to the play the Sedins (see dragon's post). Things get stale and we end of demanding change to shake things up to get both the Sedin's going and the winger who is played on a different line.

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- hillbillydeluxe

This really needs to happen more often. Put some of the muck-raking parasite 'sport writers' out of business.

Consistency is great when it happens (rarely, Burrows is the only player i can think of that consistently played at a high level with the twins).
I think variety is needed as other teams learn how to the play the Sedins (see dragon's post). Things get stale and we end of demanding change to shake things up to get both the Sedin's going and the winger who is played on a different line.
- dbot

I am totally agreeing with you guys. Experience with the Sedin's for any rookie and or prospect is great for development. I just don't see the Sedin's OR management being ok with this when they keep re-assuring fans that anything short of playoffs is failure (which is). I see Hansen right now as a Burrows 2.0, and I actually see Hansen being more serviceable down the line up but that is just my opinion. I think line chemistry goes stale all the time, which is why you never see line combinations stay the same over the course of the year on ANY team. I just don't see the Sedins wanting their last couple contract years being used as development tools.

bro werent you saying earlier it always fizzles out??, and youre right. Well with the exception of burrows who lasted what 3-4 years?

There is something to the whole chemistry thing. THe sedins are special players and find that players game easily. Notice it never takes long with them to see if it works or not.
Im not condoning playing them w every roster player we have, Just have a few go to's for the right situations. Sutter for defensive zone for example. PP might be best for a net front presence, or even a burrows like behind net play.
- SMBDragon

PP's are one thing, but I am not sure how I feel about multiple line mates per game for 5v5, regardless of the zone start.

Burrows and his "unmoveable" contract is a direct result of how talented the Sedin's are. Burrows (while to his credit) plays whistle to whistle, every night, but is just not even close to top line talent. Hansen, with all do respect, I feel is the same.