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Itsjustarash
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.29.2013

Apr 26 @ 4:17 PM ET
I think the thing with the Sedin's is you need options.
Players seem to work well for a handful of games, then disappear.
It is optimal to have 2-3 players that can rotate into that spot to mix things up and keep the opposition guessing.

Hansen, Sutter and Burrows in a pinch would be my guess for next season.
With a sprinkling of Rodin and/or JV to see if any magic can be bottled.

- dbot


If we get either of the Finns? That would give us 4 different options to play with the twins. Hansen, Sutter, Burrows or one of the 2 Finns. The biggest thing missing from our debacle of a PP is a hard shooting RH pint man.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:19 PM ET
everyone thought Dane Fox might be something and he isn't even an AHL candidate....
- kaptaan

I don't see Benning signing him if he wasn't convinced he was now NHL ready
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
Would yoube surprised to see Rodin with the twins?
- VANTEL


Haven't seen much of him since he played with the wolves and at that time I don't think he looked like the type of player that would succeed with them.

I imagine he gets the 2nd RW spot next to either Bo or Sutter.

I could definitely see him on the top PP with the Sedins though.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
everyone thought Dane Fox might be something and he isn't even an AHL candidate....
- kaptaan


thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
Would yoube surprised to see Rodin with the twins?
- VANTEL

Nope these twins get around.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
I don't see Benning signing him if he wasn't convinced he was now NHL ready
- VANTEL


The thing about Rodin that often gets overlooked, ignored was that he had a serious shoulder injury when playing in NA before which was never dealt with.

He was a really good prospect when he was drafted but was never able to get healthy until he went back to europe, it shouldn't of been a big surprise to see him do as well there when you look at where he was at pre-draft.

I don't know if he will be able to make the same impact as Panarin has this season but there is a huge (frank)ing difference between overage ( not over age ) Fox tearing it up in the OHL with McDavid and Rodin tearing it up with his peers in Europe.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Can we now call the Blackhawk dynasty a non-dynasty?
- bloatedmosquito


Sadly, I don't think so.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
2 year extension for Granlund
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:41 PM ET
Benning just got his translator for one of the FINS we are about to draft
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Apr 26 @ 4:42 PM ET


SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
Laine 10-5-15 in 18 gms in playoffs.

Unbelievable performance
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:46 PM ET
Nope these twins get around.
- thundachunk

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
2 year extension for Granlund
- Codes1087


As long as they aren't afraid to send him to the AHL if he gets outplayed I have no problem with that.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
Benning just got his translator for one of the FINS we are about to draft
- Codes1087


or both?

draft the twin finns and Granlund can Center them!
play Rodin with the Sedins and we got the all swede line.
Bo with JV and Sutter for the meat and potatoe's Canadian team.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
Laine 10-5-15 in 18 gms in playoffs.

Unbelievable performance

- SMBDragon


Matthews 24 - 22 - 46 in 36 gms

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:47 PM ET
or both?

draft the twin finns and Granlund can Center them!
play Rodin with the Sedins and we got the all swede line.
Bo with JV and Sutter for the meat and potatoe's Canadian team.

- dbot


you have had too much time to think about this lol
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
As long as they aren't afraid to send him to the AHL if he gets outplayed I have no problem with that.
- belcherbd


terms have not be released, nor has the money.

I imagine its a 1-way contract and a bridge one at that. (I hope )
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
I disagree, I think he suits there style very well, the Sedins don't need someone to just sit in front of the net.

They need players to retrieve pucks and be able to shoot in the offensive zone and someone with speed to cover for them if the puck goes the other direction.

Burrows in his prime did this and Hansen has been able to as well. I really like Hansen with Bo as well but he has for years when given the chance made the Sedins better players and last year we saw him able to convert a high % of his opportunities.

- belcherbd


Over the last four seasons he's averaged more goals than assists. This season was a career high with 22 goals. 16 assists.

The only way you need a guy to retrieve pucks for the twins is if you employ a dump and chase style. You would have to be a (frank)ing dummy coach to employ that scheme with the twins.

The twins gain the zone off the rush and then set up the cycle. Once the cycle is set they have no problems controlling the puck down low. IMO, they play their best hockey coming out of the corners to the net.

So what role does Hansen play in that scheme?

Hansen's skills are better used on other lines and goes beyond being a retriever for the twins.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Apr 26 @ 4:55 PM ET

Jason Brough @JasonPHT · 14m .
"Nobody likes you. Nobody respects you." I half expected Torts to come flying off the top rope. https://t.co/KHbp2rld2Q

SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 26 @ 4:57 PM ET
I think the thing with the Sedin's is you need options.
Players seem to work well for a handful of games, then disappear.
It is optimal to have 2-3 players that can rotate into that spot to mix things up and keep the opposition guessing.

Hansen, Sutter and Burrows in a pinch would be my guess for next season.
With a sprinkling of Rodin and/or JV to see if any magic can be bottled.
dbot

I agree with all of this. Problem with the sedins is tactically to stop them is you place 1 guy in between them to prevent the pass. As good as they are they are extremely predictable, which is why they arent as good in the playoffs. The answer to this is versatility in their wingers, which is why burrows was so effective with them for years his versatile game he had. Since most are pretty 1 dimensional though you need several options and when 1 gets shut down by opposition then use a winger with a different skill set....changes the way the entire line plays.

Personally I wouldnt ride a winger with them for long stretches. Instead use the winger change through a game to suit the need. Offensive zone vs defensive zone, Need for speed vs net presence etc. 5on5 vs PP etc.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:01 PM ET
Jason Brough @JasonPHT · 14m .
"Nobody likes you. Nobody respects you." I half expected Torts to come flying off the top rope. https://t.co/KHbp2rld2Q


- hillbillydeluxe

Brooks?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
900k cap hit per year for Granlund. VERY Reasonable IMO.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:04 PM ET
900k per season. Not bad Jimmy
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:06 PM ET
Matthews 24 - 22 - 46 in 36 gms


- Codes1087

is that playoffs?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 26 @ 5:07 PM ET
is that playoffs?
- SMBDragon


who cares? They play in different leagues.

I am just teasing you bud cause we all know you are pro-Laine for 1st overall
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