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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
so let me get this straight....you credit WD with getting them to playoffs and ANY success but its not his fault when they lose and finish almost dead last?? THats pretty selective opinion there.
And this years roster was far better than last years at that. Of course MANY coaches are good with youngsters, he's not the only 1.

He isnt NHL quality, he's in way over his head. Even broadcasters on television were laughing at him. Seems like a decent guy n all but hes a WHL/AHL coach, not NHL. D coach is even worse and MORE of a reasoning for our failure than WD.

We need coaches that use a style that wins cup as every cup winner for quite a number of years has had that. Obviously you cant win it without that. So we should pursue a coach that uses THAT instead. No point in having a coach that cannot win the cup.

- SMBDragon


Then what you're saying is that because the broadcast panel was laughing at him that makes him not NHL quality...in other words Benning could go up to the broadcast booth, and let's say, pick the guy that chuckled the most and make him the new coach...because he was laughing and is an obvious well educated and knowledgeable...has to be if he was laughing at WD.

I know I'm being facetious, but WD isn't that bad or the overall problem with this team...compounding issues brought about the end result.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
No, he said that the Canadian fellow beheaded by the Phillipine terrorists was an Oiler troll. Class act!
- Marwood


Wow.....the pride of Surrey right there!!
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
thats not a system...hes talking about choice of player to take....thats not a specified system. Research it, learn more then lets talk.....or not. Youre trying to be right armed with no facts.
- SMBDragon


Not a system? Maybe you should learn what a system is. He is telling them where they need to be according to his system. If a guy is standing in front, who's responsible for him? Well in Willie's system, apparently that was Jake's guy. Maybe for Babcock its the Defenseman's guy, you cant tell without being in the room. Maybe he was teaching them a box plus 1 zone defense and Jake or McCann never played that in Jr's? Or maybe he's doing man-to-man? Those are defensive systems, so yeah maybe you should bring some facts to your arguments instead of just calling people dumb
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:06 PM ET
We know where you stand on coaching.
Maybe stay off the steroids if you fly off the handle so easily.

- Marwood

you dont kn ow me so you cant comment. And no im not a user, being a man of medicine I know better.
I was asked a question directly and I answered it, Im not posting my thoughts daily like many do.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Another problem with firing WD is, right now they are a losing club in transition. Putting the blame of the season and letting go of the head coach takes that big target off the coach and shifts it to the GM with the same transitioning team. Before firing the coach, you better make sure the team is ready to turn the corner, because as GM you are the next target.
- VANTEL


Good post. Very true.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
accumulation of several straight of his comments towards me...it was deserved.
- SMBDragon


sometimes its easier not to engage then. Overall, I think you take things a little too seriously on here which generally leads to you getting your back up against the fence, and it shows in your responses to people. Just enjoy this forum man. We are all Canucks fans here.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
No, he said that the Canadian fellow beheaded by the Phillipine terrorists was an Oiler troll. Class act!
- Marwood

speak for yourself... youve shown no class over a long period
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
Not a system? Maybe you should learn what a system is. He is telling them where they need to be according to his system. If a guy is standing in front, who's responsible for him? Well in Willie's system, apparently that was Jake's guy. Maybe for Babcock its the Defenseman's guy, you cant tell without being in the room. Maybe he was teaching them a box plus 1 zone defense and Jake or McCann never played that in Jr's? Or maybe he's doing man-to-man? Those are defensive systems, so yeah maybe you should bring some facts to your arguments instead of just calling people dumb
- WhiteLie

Good luck with that.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
speak for yourself... youve shown no class over a long period
- SMBDragon

Sure.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
sometimes its easier not to engage then. Overall, I think you take things a little too seriously on here which generally leads to you getting your back up against the fence, and it shows in your responses to people. Just enjoy this forum man. We are all Canucks fans here.
- Codes1087

thanks man....youre always great.
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:10 PM ET
accumulation of several straight of his comments towards me...it was deserved.
- SMBDragon


Why does multiple disagreements with your opinions always seem to mean the rest of us are dumb?! You have proven time and again you cannot have a civilized debate without calling people dumb in some way. To be self-absorbed and arrogant on a site like this doesn't make you better in any way. Just makes you look silly.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:11 PM ET
Easy man. Don't take this stuff so seriously.
- Codes1087


More cowbell you SOB
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:12 PM ET
More cowbell you SOB
- CanuckDon


MORE APR30th @ 4PM YOU SOB

I might poo myself if we get in the top 2 btw
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
Not a system? Maybe you should learn what a system is. He is telling them where they need to be according to his system. If a guy is standing in front, who's responsible for him? Well in Willie's system, apparently that was Jake's guy. Maybe for Babcock its the Defenseman's guy, you cant tell without being in the room. Maybe he was teaching them a box plus 1 zone defense and Jake or McCann never played that in Jr's? Or maybe he's doing man-to-man? Those are defensive systems, so yeah maybe you should bring some facts to your arguments instead of just calling people dumb
- WhiteLie

you can believe what ever you want. It really makes no difference to me. Please do, Id rather not argue. But if youre interested in systems and want to down the road, lets just talk privately where stuff cant get twisted
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:14 PM ET
MORE APR30th @ 4PM YOU SOB

I might poo myself if we get in the top 2 btw

- Codes1087


NFL draft tomorrow night.....great way to start the weekend!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
NFL draft tomorrow night.....great way to start the weekend!
- golfingsince


This is true my friend
WhatTheNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
sometimes its easier not to engage then. Overall, I think you take things a little too seriously on here which generally leads to you getting your back up against the fence, and it shows in your responses to people. Just enjoy this forum man. We are all Canucks fans here.
- Codes1087



I don't think it's a matter of taking it too seriously but instead being completely close minded. When someone disagrees wih you in life you don't say 'learn stuff'. What a Richard thing to say.
rugdnit
Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA
Joined: 11.29.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:16 PM ET
MORE APR30th @ 4PM YOU SOB

I might poo myself if we get in the top 2 btw

- Codes1087


I hope you have torrential $hitz of the drizzling kind.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:16 PM ET
For the love of god, please stop.
- Marwood

It does get old, but on the other hand so does the daily Burrows and Higgins and 4.5 for a 4th line player.

It gets to the point of taking the other side just cause.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:16 PM ET
Why does multiple disagreements with your opinions always seem to mean the rest of us are dumb?! You have proven time and again you cannot have a civilized debate without calling people dumb in some way. To be self-absorbed and arrogant on a site like this doesn't make you better in any way. Just makes you look silly.
- WhatTheNuck

I have NEVER once said the rest of you are dumb. ever. Nor would I. Nor do I think that either.
There are lots of people on this site however that do say people are dumb and Im not 1 of them.
Its being taken that way....unintentionally on my part.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 27 @ 1:16 PM ET
you can believe what ever you want. It really makes no difference to me. Please do, Id rather not argue. But if youre interested in systems and want to down the road, lets just talk privately where stuff cant get twisted
- SMBDragon


Out of curiosity, what is the highest level you have coached ?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:17 PM ET
NFL draft tomorrow night.....great way to start the weekend!
- golfingsince

you don't know what a great weekend is. do some research and learn. or don't and have sh!tty weekends. up to you. your life bro.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:17 PM ET
you can believe what ever you want. It really makes no difference to me. Please do, Id rather not argue. But if youre interested in systems and want to down the road, lets just talk privately where stuff cant get twisted
- SMBDragon



I've asked you about it several times and this is always your response. Back it up, thats all I ask. It took me 30 seconds to find a clip of Willie coaching a system, if you can find something that proves otherwise I would be happy to be convinced.

You do keep referencing the broadcasters laughing/questioning WD's line usage, and I agree with that. The stats dont lie that he used Doresett the most when down a goal, its a questionable tactic and if WD is going to be an NHL coach he needs to pay more attention to that. But your claims on the lack of a system are unfounded, and thats where I am trying to engage you in a discussion where you can "help me see it" because every highlight I see are inadequate players making mistakes and the wrong reads
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:17 PM ET
you can believe what ever you want. It really makes no difference to me. Please do, Id rather not argue. But if youre interested in systems and want to down the road, lets just talk privately where stuff cant get twisted
- SMBDragon

Where do we sign up to be accepted for one of your private tutorials?
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