YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Nope...we traded Neuvirth for Eichel......but I'm sure you wouldn't make that trade.. - Ripped Fuel
Hahaha...I guess that is one way of looking at it |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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eh. i'll admit they are in fact getting there. both of them have done a great job at collecting pieces. but next year? nah. i just dont see it. playoffs for buffalo could come sooner rather than later, but it takes time to learn how to win in them. - stayinthefnnet
It'll be interesting seeing either of those teams in a few years trying to fit all their young guys under the cap with Stamkos' 10 mil cap hit |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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To be fair...he was saying they were Buffalo's version of those players...so them being poopty versions of said players totally checks out - YuenglingJagr
Our Ovechkin is Brayden Schenn |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Yep....
- Ripped Fuel
It's okay we will be good as soon as we get McDavid...damnit!
Well that is fine...Eichel is just as good...especially now that we will have Babcock...DAMNIT!!!
Okay, okay...this time....everything is going to plan...just sign Stamkos and... |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Our Ovechkin is Brayden Schenn - Giroux_Is_God
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Our Ovechkin is Brayden Schenn - Giroux_Is_God
welllll i mean they do both have a fondness for hitting high and leaving their feet |
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It'll be interesting seeing either of those teams in a few years trying to fit all their young guys under the cap with Stamkos' 10 mil cap hit - Giroux_Is_God
Theyre on rookie deals for a few years...then bridge contracts seem unlikely since Eichel, Risto and Reinhart will be all among the top 25 players in the league...but when that time comes we can cut loose Kane, O'Reilly, and Bogosian....and by THEN..probably Stamkos as well....
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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: A medical emergency involving you. Joined: 08.05.2013
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Yep....
- Ripped Fuel
True.....
Ill leave you folks alone for the off season...the only thing I wanted to really get into here was the fact that NOONE is holding Giroux's feet to the fire for ONE point amazes me.....I thought you were better fans than that...
If my captain and #1 center did that..hed have a bulleye on his face...
He TRULY learned NOTHING from Briere about fighting through it.
Good Luck on your trade pursuit of Mc David - Ripped Fuel
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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It's okay we will be good as soon as we get McDavid...damnit!
Well that is fine...Eichel is just as good...especially now that we will have Babcock...DAMNIT!!!
Okay, okay...this time....everything is going to plan...just sign Stamkos and... - YuenglingJagr
if you squint a bit at that photo you can already see him in his Leafs jersey |
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It's okay we will be good as soon as we get McDavid...damnit!
Well that is fine...Eichel is just as good...especially now that we will have Babcock...DAMNIT!!!
Okay, okay...this time....everything is going to plan...just sign Stamkos and... - YuenglingJagr
yeah dammitt....that Eichel really is a bust.....those #2 picks....Eichel is as bad as Vanreimsdyk....oh wait.... |
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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YES!!!! If Eichel gets less that 82pts next year....you can rip me all you like.... - Ripped Fuel
No playoff prediction? Would be nice to know how many he will score in the playoffs |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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welllll i mean they do both have a fondness for hitting high and leaving their feet - stayinthefnnet
no denial from me |
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? - -davies-
McDavid was on The Fan 590 last week and said hes always wanted to be a Flyer |
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stayinthefnnet
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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Theyre on rookie deals for a few years...then bridge contracts seem unlikely since Eichel, Risto and Reinhart will be all among the top 25 players in the league...but when that time comes we can cut loose Kane, O'Reilly, and Bogosian....and by THEN..probably Stamkos as well.... - Ripped Fuel
haha havent even signed him yet and already dreaming of ways to cut him loose. i like it. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Hahaha...I guess that is one way of looking at it - YuenglingJagr
If I am not mistaken wasn't the Sabres owner a little pissed that Edmonton ended up with McDavid.
They tanked because they WANTED McDavid.
The Buffalo Sabres spent all year stinking up the NHL for a 20 percent chance of winning the NHL Draft lottery and earning the chance to select uber-prospect Connor McDavid first overall. They finished last in the league with a 23-51-8 record guaranteeing the club would pick no lower than second, where talented Boston University center Jack Eichel is projected to go.
When the ping pong balls bounced Saturday for lottery, they bounced in favor of the Edmonton Oilers, who finished with the third-worst record in the league. Despite just an 11.5 percent chance of picking first, they won their fourth lottery since 2010.
When it came time to face the media, Sabres general manager Tim Murray couldn't even feign excitement to have at least landed Eichel.
#Sabres gm Tim Murray. "I'm disappointed for our fans."
— Mike Zeisberger (@Zeisberger) April 19, 2015
However, after a season of such horror, you've got to be a better salesman than "I'm disappointed for our fans."
It was always more likely that the Sabres would end up with Eichel instead of McDavid, even though finishing in last place would give Buffalo the best chances of any organization of landing the 17-year-old Erie Otters captain. That wasn't saying much, though, as they were four times as likely to not land the first pick. Miss out on No. 1, at least there was no way they could lose out on No. 2.
But he couldn't even sell this to the fans because he and this disaster of a season failed to bring the result that only had a 20 percent chance of happening. He even said the team expected to come into this getting the second overall pick. He followed that up by saying "we're going to deal with it."
There are 28 other GMs that would gladly trade places with Murray right now. They'd love to have something like that to deal with it, like landing one of the best freshman players in the history of college hockey (not an exaggeration) and having at least seven years of NHL service from that same player before he can hit unrestricted free agency.
Murray even complained about having to show up to the lottery only to lose.
GMTM: "Thankfully it's a short drive from Buffalo. I'd hate like hell to be flying across the country to take part in it. "
— Mike Harrington (@BNHarrington) April 19, 2015
The reality is that all of that tanking was only worth it because of Eichel. Had there been a prospect of a lower caliber at No. 2 this year, there would have been less of an incentive to finish in last place for the best shot at the No. 1 pick. The odds just aren't in your favor, but the fact that there were two potential franchise cornerstone players at the top made a last-place finish more palatable.
But here's what Murray told the New York Times just a few weeks ago about McDavid.
"I watch him too much and I think too much about him. I wish I could help myself," Murray said, sounding less like an NHL GM and more like a boy with a crush.
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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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welllll i mean they do both have a fondness for hitting high and leaving their feet - stayinthefnnet
and targeting the knee |
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No playoff prediction? Would be nice to know how many he will score in the playoffs - YuenglingJagr
At least THREE...which would make him the Flyers runaway leader |
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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 01.12.2012
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yeah dammitt....that Eichel really is a bust.....those #2 picks....Eichel is as bad as Vanreimsdyk....oh wait.... - Ripped Fuel
how mad will you be when eichle ends up being the bobby ryan to mcdavid's crosby? |
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If I am not mistaken wasn't the Sabres owner a little pissed that Edmonton ended up with McDavid.
They tanked because they WANTED McDavid.
The Buffalo Sabres spent all year stinking up the NHL for a 20 percent chance of winning the NHL Draft lottery and earning the chance to select uber-prospect Connor McDavid first overall. They finished last in the league with a 23-51-8 record guaranteeing the club would pick no lower than second, where talented Boston University center Jack Eichel is projected to go.
When the ping pong balls bounced Saturday for lottery, they bounced in favor of the Edmonton Oilers, who finished with the third-worst record in the league. Despite just an 11.5 percent chance of picking first, they won their fourth lottery since 2010.
When it came time to face the media, Sabres general manager Tim Murray couldn't even feign excitement to have at least landed Eichel.
#Sabres gm Tim Murray. "I'm disappointed for our fans."
— Mike Zeisberger (@Zeisberger) April 19, 2015
However, after a season of such horror, you've got to be a better salesman than "I'm disappointed for our fans."
It was always more likely that the Sabres would end up with Eichel instead of McDavid, even though finishing in last place would give Buffalo the best chances of any organization of landing the 17-year-old Erie Otters captain. That wasn't saying much, though, as they were four times as likely to not land the first pick. Miss out on No. 1, at least there was no way they could lose out on No. 2.
But he couldn't even sell this to the fans because he and this disaster of a season failed to bring the result that only had a 20 percent chance of happening. He even said the team expected to come into this getting the second overall pick. He followed that up by saying "we're going to deal with it."
There are 28 other GMs that would gladly trade places with Murray right now. They'd love to have something like that to deal with it, like landing one of the best freshman players in the history of college hockey (not an exaggeration) and having at least seven years of NHL service from that same player before he can hit unrestricted free agency.
Murray even complained about having to show up to the lottery only to lose.
GMTM: "Thankfully it's a short drive from Buffalo. I'd hate like hell to be flying across the country to take part in it. "
— Mike Harrington (@BNHarrington) April 19, 2015
The reality is that all of that tanking was only worth it because of Eichel. Had there been a prospect of a lower caliber at No. 2 this year, there would have been less of an incentive to finish in last place for the best shot at the No. 1 pick. The odds just aren't in your favor, but the fact that there were two potential franchise cornerstone players at the top made a last-place finish more palatable.
But here's what Murray told the New York Times just a few weeks ago about McDavid.
"I watch him too much and I think too much about him. I wish I could help myself," Murray said, sounding less like an NHL GM and more like a boy with a crush. - J35Bacher
Yeah....and I'm sure the Flyers wanted nothing to do with him.....
its not like your team ever took 7-8 players, including a hall of famer (Forsberg) and traded them to another team...lauching THAT team to a Stanley Cup for a #1 overall....who ALSO never got it done BTW... |
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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: CLASS DISMISSED Joined: 12.15.2011
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Theyre on rookie deals for a few years...then bridge contracts seem unlikely since Eichel, Risto and Reinhart will be all among the top 25 players in the league...but when that time comes we can cut loose Kane, O'Reilly, and Bogosian....and by THEN..probably Stamkos as well.... - Ripped Fuel
Stamkos is gonna sign for 9-10 mil over 8 years, just fyi |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Who would've thought a bass player from Buffalo would solve all of our problems? |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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yeah dammitt....that Eichel really is a bust.....those #2 picks....Eichel is as bad as Vanreimsdyk....oh wait.... - Ripped Fuel
I'm sure Bylsma leads your crop to the promised land. |
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how mad will you be when eichle ends up being the bobby ryan to mcdavid's crosby? - stayinthefnnet
how mad will you be when VanReimsdyk ends up being the bobby ryan to mcdavid's Kane?.....
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I'm sure Bylsma leads your crop to the promised land. - Just5
Our coach has a ring....does yours?? |
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