Flyers need scoring. They need a top 6 left winger.
- Streit2ThePoint

So why Ladd? You're talking about a power forward type who's going to be 31 next season who's likely looking at 5+ years and $6M per year. That's a lot of money to pony up for a guy whose production will likely decline within the first 3 years of the deal, right when this team expects to compete. I'd take a shot at Jamie McGinn, look at a trade, or try to pry an RFA like Hoffman from Ottawa or Jenner from Columbus.

McGinn and Helm interest me.

Not interested in that Christ guy.
- Feanor

oh man I didn't even notice that. iPhone works in mysterious ways...just like Christ.

Yeah I know they wouldn't. But those are the skill sets the Flyers desperately need.
- PLindbergh31

They're also the skill sets the Blues desperately need.

So why Ladd? You're talking about a power forward type who's going to be 31 next season who's likely looking at 5+ years and $6M per year. That's a lot of money to pony up for a guy whose production will likely decline within the first 3 years of the deal, right when this team expects to compete. I'd take a shot at Jamie McGinn, look at a trade, or try to pry an RFA like Hoffman from Ottawa or Jenner from Columbus.
- jmatchett383

Certainly are a couple of good RFAs this offseason. Schwartz from STL would be great. STL has a couple of guys they gotta decide on that could impact their decision with Schwartz.

So I was able to create this roster and have 3 million in cap space.

Schenn(4.75) - Giroux - Simmonds
Konecny - Stamkos(10.5) - Voracek
Laughton - Couturier - Raffl
Leier - Bellemare - McDonald

Del Zotto - Schultz
MacDonald - Gostisbehere
Provorov - Gudas(1.25)

Mason
Neuvirth


That's how I made my roster. I tried to be as close to real as possible with Schenn and Stamkos. Of course if someone offers 11-13 million fro Stamkos I move on. And ScHenn could be tricky if he wants 5 or more.


I traded Read and Streit(50% retained)

Vandevelde to minors.

So why Ladd? You're talking about a power forward type who's going to be 31 next season who's likely looking at 5+ years and $6M per year. That's a lot of money to pony up for a guy whose production will likely decline within the first 3 years of the deal, right when this team expects to compete. I'd take a shot at Jamie McGinn, look at a trade, or try to pry an RFA like Hoffman from Ottawa or Jenner from Columbus.
- jmatchett383

Hoffman would be intriguing.

I wonder if Laughton could be a piece for a team. A prospect for prospect type thing.

So I was able to create this roster and have 3 million in cap space.

Schenn(4.75) - Giroux - Simmonds
Konecny - Stamkos(10.5) - Voracek
Laughton - Couturier - Raffl
Leier - Bellemare - McDonald

Del Zotto - Schultz
MacDonald - Gostisbehere
Provorov - Gudas(1.25)

Mason
Neuvirth


That's how I made my roster. I tried to be as close to real as possible with Schenn and Stamkos. Of course if someone offers 11-13 million fro Stamkos I move on. And ScHenn could be tricky if he wants 5 or more.


I traded Read and Streit(50% retained)

Vandevelde to minors.
- J35Bacher

What did you do with Umberger? Also, I think Schenn gets $5M minimum, and you have Stamkos on the wrong line.

Lastly, that works great...for next year. What about when Ghost/Simmonds/MDZ, and one of the goalies all need a raise within 2 years?

Hexy may be tempted to move Schenn....I dont see Jagr leaving sunny Florida

Hoffman would be intriguing.

I wonder if Laughton could be a piece for a team. A prospect for prospect type thing.
- J35Bacher

I don't think Laughton has done enough yet. Plus, after 2 concussions (I'm assuming he had one whether it was diagnosed or not), he probably has an extra question mark. Definitely not a centerpiece for Hoffman. But, if Ottawa has any issues signing him, Flyers could make a play.

So why Ladd? You're talking about a power forward type who's going to be 31 next season who's likely looking at 5+ years and $6M per year. That's a lot of money to pony up for a guy whose production will likely decline within the first 3 years of the deal, right when this team expects to compete. I'd take a shot at Jamie McGinn, look at a trade, or try to pry an RFA like Hoffman from Ottawa or Jenner from Columbus.
- jmatchett383

You're right about the decline and age, which is why I wouldn't do more than 3 years at $5 mil, but that likely won't happen. Didn't know he was seeking 6 for 6. But he would bring more scoring and size and I think would be a nice fit.

McGinn would bring size but would likely be a bottom 6 winger, which the Flyers don't need.

Don't see Hoffman moving from Ottawa.

And Jenner would be a nice addition, but again don't see Columbus moving him.

What did you do with Umberger? Also, I think Schenn gets $5M minimum, and you have Stamkos on the wrong line.

Lastly, that works great...for next year. What about when Ghost/Simmonds/MDZ, and one of the goalies all need a raise within 2 years?
- jmatchett383

Umberger bought out. I forgot to mention that. Forgot about him.

Gudas was a one year deal so that could be let go if someone is ready.
Schultz off the books.
Del Zotto UFA
Also depending on how team is playing you can't rule out a trade. Could they move Simmonds then at that point to bring in younger scoring.
Streit money retained would be gone then

Ghost will be a RFA after next season so you can resign him.

i want the pens to bury them.
- hammarby31

Anyone but Crosby and the Pens. ANYONE. (frank) Pittsburgh. I can hate that team. I do hate that team.

I don't think Laughton has done enough yet. Plus, after 2 concussions (I'm assuming he had one whether it was diagnosed or not), he probably has an extra question mark. Definitely not a centerpiece for Hoffman. But, if Ottawa has any issues signing him, Flyers could make a play.
- jmatchett383

Probably right on Laughton. I am just not sure what his future is here as there seem to be guys that kind of have the same skills as him and likely role.


I could see a scenario that is Schenn wants big money the Flyers could look to move him. Also depends if they think he is turning the corner or maybe this was just a motivate player in a contract year.

Hexy may be tempted to move Schenn....I dont see Jagr leaving sunny Florida
- vejim

I can see him taking calls, but i wonder how far we could move up, if we could get an additional 1st, or what we could get Schenn+Neuvy and/or Schenn + Neuvy + 2016 1st

Anyone but Crosby and the Pens. ANYONE. (frank) Pittsburgh. I can hate that team. I do hate that team.
- Lexington Flyer

The caps beat the Flyers.

Ergo, the caps must be eviscerated as quickly as possible.

You're right about the decline and age, which is why I wouldn't do more than 3 years at $5 mil, but that likely won't happen. Didn't know he was seeking 6 for 6. But he would bring more scoring and size and I think would be a nice fit.

McGinn would bring size but would likely be a bottom 6 winger, which the Flyers don't need.

Don't see Hoffman moving from Ottawa.

And Jenner would be a nice addition, but again don't see Columbus moving him.
- Streit2ThePoint

Hoffman and Jenner are RFAs and, while not offer-sheet candidates, they could be moved if Ottawa/Columbus think signing them will be difficult.

Or, could you do the unthinkable and pry Kredider out of NYR? I'm not sure how you do it, but they wanted Sanheim as the centerpiece (Sanheim, Fazleev/NAK, Lyon/Stolarz, 2nd), I'd listen.

McGinn and Helm interest me.

Not interested in that Christ guy.
- Feanor

I can see him taking calls, but i wonder how far we could move up, if we could get an additional 1st, or what we could get Schenn+Neuvy and/or Schenn + Neuvy + 2016 1st
- arichardson22

If they could do Schenn+Neuvirth+1st to get into the top 3, with an assurance than the 2 Finns were coming to N.A. next season, then I'd do it.

McGinn and Helm interest me.

Not interested in that Christ guy.
- Feanor

Yep.

Hoffman and Jenner are RFAs and, while not offer-sheet candidates, they could be moved if Ottawa/Columbus think signing them will be difficult.

Or, could you do the unthinkable and pry Kredider out of NYR? I'm not sure how you do it, but they wanted Sanheim as the centerpiece (Sanheim, Fazleev/NAK, Lyon/Stolarz, 2nd), I'd listen.
- jmatchett383

Kind of thinking outside the box but instead of signing someone would you be ok taking the Datsyuk contract(Detroit keeps 50%) if they gave you a prospect(Svechnikov) or 1st rounder?

You're right about the decline and age, which is why I wouldn't do more than 3 years at $5 mil, but that likely won't happen. Didn't know he was seeking 6 for 6. But he would bring more scoring and size and I think would be a nice fit.

McGinn would bring size but would likely be a bottom 6 winger, which the Flyers don't need.

Don't see Hoffman moving from Ottawa.

And Jenner would be a nice addition, but again don't see Columbus moving him.
- Streit2ThePoint

Hoffman is more likely than Jenner. New GM in Ottawa so might want to make his stamp...that said the new management could value him differently

The caps beat the Flyers.

Ergo, the caps must be eviscerated as quickly as possible.
- Giroux_Is_God

(frank) Pitt. Save the Caps for Tampa in the ECFs, after the Caps win (but get beat up badly) vs. Pitt.

Then Sharks win the Cup. That is my ideal Schennario.

(frank) Pitt. Save the Caps for Tampa in the ECFs, after the Caps win (but get beat up badly) vs. Pitt.

Then Sharks win the Cup. That is my ideal Schennario.


- Lexington Flyer

Why on Earth would anyone want the Sharks to win the Cup? Another team to have a parking lot parade Why not the Blues or Stars?

If they ended up getting Stamkos, I wouldn't go jump off a bridge. He is young and fast and scores a ton, but that would be a hell of a lot of money tied up in 3 forwards and not much much room for anything else. Plus he seems a bit fragile, even if his injuries are mostly of the freak kind.

Personally I don't see too many free agents I would be interested in next season, at least not for the money they will command.

They definitely need some size and skill up front. Their forwards are woefully undersized, even Simmonds is a featherweight compared to other so called "power" forwards.
- MBFlyerfan

Exactly. Almost 30 million tied up in 3 players, gives you very little margin of error filling out the rest of the roster. Pre-cap, I'd say bring Stamkos aboard.
Yes, size & skill are a must have. Flyers gave a great effort against the Caps for being totally undermanned, but it was frustrating to watch Ovechkin run around all over the ice and bury everyone. Simply had no answers for that.

Hoffman is more likely than Jenner. New GM in Ottawa so might want to make his stamp...that said the new management could value him differently
- YuenglingJagr

Did put up big numbers but Alex Chaisson would interest me if he were somehow available. Big RW who has speed and kills penalties. Seems like he could slide onto the 3rd line and also kill some penalties.

Signing Caggulia would be nice as I think he would basically replace Read and provides speed and skill