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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
What type of package would the Flyers need to put together to get Pietrangelo, and Tarasenko. Those are exactly the type of players the Flyers need.

An all around first pairing stud, and a sniper.

- PLindbergh31



A hell of a lot I would think. Not sure why St. Louis would do that for any reason.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:09 AM ET
What type of package would the Flyers need to put together to get Pietrangelo, and Tarasenko. Those are exactly the type of players the Flyers need.

An all around first pairing stud, and a sniper.

- PLindbergh31


Something along the lines of our 1st this year our 1st next year Provorov and Konecny as a starting point.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 9:12 AM ET
What type of package would the Flyers need to put together to get Pietrangelo, and Tarasenko. Those are exactly the type of players the Flyers need.

An all around first pairing stud, and a sniper.

- PLindbergh31

Not sure who I should laugh at more. You for asking this or anyone who answers it seriously
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
The rest of the decade's first and second round picks and Read, probably.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
What type of package would the Flyers need to put together to get Pietrangelo, and Tarasenko. Those are exactly the type of players the Flyers need.

An all around first pairing stud, and a sniper.

- PLindbergh31


hahahaha
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
A hell of a lot I would think. Not sure why St. Louis would do that for any reason.
- MBFlyerfan


Yeah I know they wouldn't. But those are the skill sets the Flyers desperately need.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
Not sure who I should laugh at more. You for asking this or anyone who answers it seriously
- hereticpride


I made my choice and Im sticking with it
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 26 @ 9:14 AM ET
Agree we need both, but wasn't he asking or turned down a 6 year deal with a cap near 6 Mil? Id think he'd be a nice addition with his scoring and physical play, but I think I'd prefer Backes even over him which would shape our Cs nicely
Giroux
Backes
Couts
Cousins

Could swap Backes and Couts depending on linemates

- arichardson22



I think Backes has played a lot of wing too.

I think he is going to be looking in that 5-6 range too.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 26 @ 9:15 AM ET
Yeah I know they wouldn't. But those are the skill sets the Flyers desperately need.
- PLindbergh31



It's why they drafted Provorov and Konecny.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 26 @ 9:15 AM ET
Yeah I know they wouldn't. But those are the skill sets every (frank)ing team desperately need.
- PLindbergh31

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:16 AM ET
If the price was reasonable, I'd agree.

But I think he wants 6 x 6.

- Feanor


Oh, yeah not for 6 mil 6 years... He's 30 yrs old.

I'm sure some team would give him that. Most I'd like to see would be 5 mil for 3 years
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:16 AM ET
It's why they drafted Provorov and Konecny.
- J35Bacher


I haven't seen Konecny play yet. Is he considered a sniper type?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:17 AM ET
Yeah I know they wouldn't. But those are the skill sets the Flyers desperately need.
- PLindbergh31




Oh for sure. I just think with the way things are now, unless they want to sign Stamkos, they will have to continue to be patient and draft well. Not too many big goal scorers available in upcoming free agency. And nowadays in the cap world, no teams are going to be trading that.





PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:18 AM ET
Oh for sure. I just think with the way things are now, unless they want to sign Stamkos, they will have to continue to be patient and draft well. Not too many big goal scorers available in upcoming free agency. And nowadays in the cap world, no teams are going to be trading that.
- MBFlyerfan


Yeah. I don't want them to even pursue Stamkos. I just hope they can add a legit scorer to the top 6. If they do that, with the prospects ready soon things are looking up.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:20 AM ET
Just in time for us to get (frank)ed by an expansion draft
- hereticpride


All of those first-year and second-year ELC players will be exempt.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:21 AM ET
why do people keep saying that? Neuvirth was 6-17-3 with buffalo last season
- nastyflyergirl


That was six more wins than the Sabres management were hoping for.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:23 AM ET
I totes forgot Voracek's raise goes into effect next season. Give Umberger to the Oilers for a 5th
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:24 AM ET
Yeah. I don't want them to even pursue Stamkos. I just hope they can add a legit scorer to the top 6. If they do that, with the prospects ready soon things are looking up.
- PLindbergh31



If they ended up getting Stamkos, I wouldn't go jump off a bridge. He is young and fast and scores a ton, but that would be a hell of a lot of money tied up in 3 forwards and not much much room for anything else. Plus he seems a bit fragile, even if his injuries are mostly of the freak kind.

Personally I don't see too many free agents I would be interested in next season, at least not for the money they will command.

They definitely need some size and skill up front. Their forwards are woefully undersized, even Simmonds is a featherweight compared to other so called "power" forwards.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:25 AM ET
I totes forgot Voracek's raise goes into effect next season. Give Umberger to the Oilers for a 5th
- Streit2ThePoint


If the Oilers want him they can sign him for $850,000 once he's bought out.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
Would anyone have any interest in any of the following players for depth? Christ Stewart, Smith-Pelley, Jamie McGinn? And then for top 6 potential David Perron, Jagr, Darren Helm?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 26 @ 9:27 AM ET
I totes forgot Voracek's raise goes into effect next season. Give Umberger to the Oilers for a 5th
- Streit2ThePoint


It was hard to remember with how little people reminded us about what he is paid
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
Would anyone have any interest in any of the following players for depth? Christ Stewart, Smith-Pelley, Jamie McGinn? And then for top 6 potential David Perron, Jagr, Darren Helm?
- arichardson22



I would love to see Jagr back. We could use some of that leadership and off ice work ethic.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 26 @ 9:28 AM ET
Would anyone have any interest in any of the following players for depth? Christ Stewart, Smith-Pelley, Jamie McGinn? And then for top 6 potential David Perron, Jagr, Darren Helm?
- arichardson22


No, No, I like him offensively but not defensively. And then No, but No, and No
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
Would anyone have any interest in any of the following players for depth? Christ Stewart, Smith-Pelley, Jamie McGinn? And then for top 6 potential David Perron, Jagr, Darren Helm?
- arichardson22


McGinn and Helm interest me.

Not interested in that Christ guy.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:31 AM ET
I would love to see Jagr back. We could use some of that leadership and off ice work ethic.
- MBFlyerfan


I think if we trade Streit we should look to sign Jagr back for those exact reasons and to add/replace veteran leadership. He has hinted on a return before I think? But I can't see Panthers management letting him walk
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