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Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 25 @ 6:14 PM ET

- PhillySportsGuy



arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 25 @ 6:16 PM ET
I am so so so tired of defending Voracek all day. Especially on Facebook. And yes I know it's my own fault to take those morons seriously but damn it I couldn't help it. I personally think this offseason will be good for him, as well as any addition to our roster including our prospects + free agency. Hypothetically speaking, if our gems Ivan and Travis do make it out of camp, perhaps they will attract more attention and Jake can fly more so under the radar than this season; both from a competition stand point and fans. And then obviously if we sign or acquire a top 6 forward, they will help with the added depth or even compliment Jake's skill aka a sniper for him to dish it to
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 25 @ 6:19 PM ET
Now for the Eagles, Frank Bradford and his entirety. What a piece of poop. The fact we gave him a chance last year, the fact that he was mediocre at best last year, and the fact that if we get Wentz he wouldn't even play until next year, he is a female dog and whiny little girl. The lack of character he is displaying shows he's a me first guy than a team guy. On top of all of this, what kind of NFL character is threatened by an unproven rookie QB?! Pathetic.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Apr 25 @ 6:40 PM ET
Now for the Eagles, Frank Bradford and his entirety. What a piece of poop. The fact we gave him a chance last year, the fact that he was mediocre at best last year, and the fact that if we get Wentz he wouldn't even play until next year, he is a female dog and whiny little girl. The lack of character he is displaying shows he's a me first guy than a team guy. On top of all of this, what kind of NFL character is threatened by an unproven rookie QB?! Pathetic.
- arichardson22


Dude's made over 100 million in his career, and has no spine to show he's earned a dime of it.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 6:43 PM ET
Now for the Eagles, Frank Bradford and his entirety. What a piece of poop. The fact we gave him a chance last year, the fact that he was mediocre at best last year, and the fact that if we get Wentz he wouldn't even play until next year, he is a female dog and whiny little girl. The lack of character he is displaying shows he's a me first guy than a team guy. On top of all of this, what kind of NFL character is threatened by an unproven rookie QB?! Pathetic.
- arichardson22


Bradford was a free agent. Had freedom to sign wherever he wants. When him and his agent sat down with howie to negotiate a new deal, do you think this plan was brought up by howie?

I'm not saying the guy is above competition. I'm saying he was in all likelihood told a lie to his face by his boss
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:50 PM ET
Bradford was a free agent. Had freedom to sign wherever he wants. When him and his agent sat down with howie to negotiate a new deal, do you think this plan was brought up by howie?

I'm not saying the guy is above competition. I'm saying he was in all likelihood told a lie to his face by his boss

- Just5

if bradford never believed the 2 year deal wasn't insurance by the eagles and that they wouldn't do something to mitigate the blow if he sucks, well bradford is an idiot
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 7:00 PM ET
if bradford never believed the 2 year deal wasn't insurance by the eagles and that they wouldn't do something to mitigate the blow if he sucks, well bradford is an idiot
- 2Real


I think he was legitimately made to believe he had another year to prove himself
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 7:01 PM ET
I can't stand this league anymore. Brayden Schenn gets a hearing for charging/hit to the head. I love the league's consistency.

Bellemare boards Orlov? One game suspension. Deserving.
Chimera boards Voracek? Not even a hearing.
Ovechkin charges on almost every hit he delivers? Nothing, he's a star so it's okay.
Letang slashes Ranger in throat? Not even a hearing.
Shaw uses a derogatory term and inappropriate hand gesture? One game suspension and a fine.

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 25 @ 7:02 PM ET
Bradford was a free agent. Had freedom to sign wherever he wants. When him and his agent sat down with howie to negotiate a new deal, do you think this plan was brought up by howie?

I'm not saying the guy is above competition. I'm saying he was in all likelihood told a lie to his face by his boss

- Just5


What is howie supposed to say? We are going to make a play for the top two picks. If we get it you're in the rear view mirror. If not, you're our guy!
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Apr 25 @ 7:28 PM ET
Bradford was a free agent. Had freedom to sign wherever he wants. When him and his agent sat down with howie to negotiate a new deal, do you think this plan was brought up by howie?

I'm not saying the guy is above competition. I'm saying he was in all likelihood told a lie to his face by his boss

- Just5


I just don't see how you (B!tchford) can think that when offered a 2 year bridge deal basically. I mean he has it set pretty nice... Play for a year get paid several millions while you teach a rookie the way and then have a chance to prove yourself to be a starter for another, and even, better team. I mean did he just read the newspaper last week? We've been linked to moving up in draft for months and we have been meeting with several QBs in the draft intensively. Even Howie went out, which he never does. Just completely cowardly no matter how you look at it in my eyes and in my humble opinion.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
Honestly the way Schenn was flying at people all series long, he probably deserved a suspension for this or something else. It did look like he may have hit through the shoulder as pp of contact. Oshie's head was low too. But the complete lack of anything the Caps do being suspendable irks me. Chimera's was textbook 5 and a game. Maybe even a suspension. His spear into the kidneys was also a textbook suspension.

I hate the narrative that the Flyers get unfair treatment but god damn....Subban on G? Nothing. Remaldo on Coots? Nothing. Did Gudas use up all our DoPS get out of suspension free cards or something? The inconsistency kills me. Keith shouldn't have played in any game in his series. DoPS is brutal.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 7:44 PM ET
I just don't see how you (B!tchford) can think that when offered a 2 year bridge deal basically. I mean he has it set pretty nice... Play for a year get paid several millions while you teach a rookie the way and then have a chance to prove yourself to be a starter for another, and even, better team. I mean did he just read the newspaper last week? We've been linked to moving up in draft for months and we have been meeting with several QBs in the draft intensively. Even Howie went out, which he never does. Just completely cowardly no matter how you look at it in my eyes and in my humble opinion.
- arichardson22



Why do the Eagles want him now?!! It makes no (frank)ing sense at all. That's probably how he's feeling and I don't blame him. Trade the guy for anything you can get this is stupid
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:06 PM ET
Some of these dmen in the league are flat out studs. Pietro 30 mins a game. Wouldn't it be great if provorov can be that all around horse that we desperately need. I think he can, he's much smoother than ghost. Just seems like he's in control of everything going on
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
Honestly the way Schenn was flying at people all series long, he probably deserved a suspension for this or something else. It did look like he may have hit through the shoulder as pp of contact. Oshie's head was low too. But the complete lack of anything the Caps do being suspendable irks me. Chimera's was textbook 5 and a game. Maybe even a suspension. His spear into the kidneys was also a textbook suspension.

I hate the narrative that the Flyers get unfair treatment but god damn....Subban on G? Nothing. Remaldo on Coots? Nothing. Did Gudas use up all our DoPS get out of suspension free cards or something? The inconsistency kills me. Keith shouldn't have played in any game in his series. DoPS is brutal.

- Mononoke


Absolutely brutal. The Chimera boarding is the one that I just can't believe there was no review for. I've watched the replay, and it's not even close. Jake's back is to him the entire time, he drove him into the boards from behind, then had the guts to chirp him like he dove or something.

Ovie flew around just as much as Schenn did, and his hits are shown as highlights of how into the game he is. Wilson didn't lay one hit where he didn't skate half the length of the ice. I mean just totally inconsistent.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:32 PM ET
Hey guys. Long time no talk. A lot has changed for me since my 2 year ban. :
- youarewrong


Good, now that your ban is up, I hope you continue to post with the frequency you did while banned.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Apr 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
The interesting thing about injuries is that if a player admits it, they are using it as an excuse and then people are angry when they hide it lol
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 8:39 PM ET
It really is all setting up for 2017-18.

Lindblom going to Sweden another year. He'll be bigger, stronger and an NHL player by 17-18.

Aube-kubel and konecny are sure bets to nhlers by then. I say aube-kubel because he has a ton of speed and two way ability, he's not a guy that needs to be in the top 6

Provorov, hopefully morin in some kind of role, and hopefully sanheim.

That will be a ton of ELC's on the roster.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
Well they had to trade him. He was ruining their chances for McDav....









































..oh

- Giroux_Is_God


why do people keep saying that? Neuvirth was 6-17-3 with buffalo last season
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:53 PM ET
It really is all setting up for 2017-18.

Lindblom going to Sweden another year. He'll be bigger, stronger and an NHL player by 17-18.

Aube-kubel and konecny are sure bets to nhlers by then. I say aube-kubel because he has a ton of speed and two way ability, he's not a guy that needs to be in the top 6

Provorov, hopefully morin in some kind of role, and hopefully sanheim.

That will be a ton of ELC's on the roster.

- Just5

Just in time for us to get (frank)ed by an expansion draft
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 25 @ 8:58 PM ET
why do people keep saying that? Neuvirth was 6-17-3 with buffalo last season
- nastyflyergirl

That's 6 more wins than they asked for.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 25 @ 9:15 PM ET
Blues better score about 8 goals tonight because the Hawks won't stop coming no matter how big the deficit.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 25 @ 9:16 PM ET
Blues better score about 8 goals tonight because the Hawks won't stop coming no matter how big the deficit.
- ravishingone


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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 25 @ 9:20 PM ET
The blues are toast
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 25 @ 9:23 PM ET
Only against the Hawks would a team's top end player just...fall. Of course leading to a rush the other way, and of course leading to a goal. Shocking.

That team is the luckiest (frank)ing team I swear.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 25 @ 9:28 PM ET
I'm sure this has been talked about many times, but Erik Guataffson is on the Hawks and had 14 points (not sure how many games).
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