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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
G took 3 or 4 huge hits starting with Subban's on our way into the playoffs. I wanna say against the Habs, Jackets, Pens and Caps all during the tail end of the regular season. The guy gets a pass from me
- SuperSchennBros


He's without question hurting. He's been taking an absolute whooping every time he's on the ice for about a month now.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 23 @ 1:45 PM ET
No hearing or anything for Chimera..shocking
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 23 @ 1:56 PM ET
his painkillers agree
- vejim

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 23 @ 1:57 PM ET
Officially count me in for resigning Sam Gagner and Ryan White BTW. I'm willing to bet a lot of money right now at least one or both of these guys are back next year.

Ryan White seems to just love it here and won't be overly expensive in dollars or years.

With the season Gagner had, I think we can bring him back on a 1 or 2 year deal pretty easy. What's he worth though? And at that point, now you're talking about a gluttony of forwards. Would basically be the same team coming back with no opportunity for any Phantoms/Konecny to make the team.

We could probably buy out Matt Read and resign Gagner and White with most of the cap savings. We pay Matt Read alone almost 4 mill (3.625).

White @ 1.25 (2 yrs, 2.5 mill total) + Gagner @ 2.75 (1 year, or 2 years at 2.5 for a total of 5) + Matt Read buyout @ 1.25=5.25

Just spit balling ideas. I'd obviously rather trade Read and even retain money if we have to than buy him out, but I'm of the strong opinion that he's got to go. He's been out played by just about everybody on this roster all year with the exception of VandeVelde. He's really bad.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 23 @ 1:59 PM ET
Cooter back at practice today
- kej83



Wait! What?!
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 23 @ 2:03 PM ET
I'm just finding things to be annoyed about but it's fun to me:

Why does Ovechkin always sit on the end of the bench turned sideways? Am I imagining that or is that something I see him doing all the time? Really gets on my nerves.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 23 @ 2:12 PM ET
I'm just finding things to be annoyed about but it's fun to me:

Why does Ovechkin always sit on the end of the bench turned sideways? Am I imagining that or is that something I see him doing all the time? Really gets on my nerves.

- FloHaake

Because he can't wait to get out there and take someone's head off
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Apr 23 @ 2:21 PM ET
From after game one:

Tom Wilson saw things differently. “It’s kind of an unwritten rule. You’re down two goals you don’t run a guy with .1 seconds left on the clock.”


Yeah, maybe a game in November a player wouldn't do that. This is the playoffs bud.

- FloHaake

What does Wilson know about it being an unwritten rule. It is not OK to hit someone cleanly but it is OK to elbow Voracek in the head and smash Macdonald from behind clearly looking to injure?
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Apr 23 @ 2:23 PM ET
What does Wilson know about it being an unwritten rule. It is not OK to hit someone cleanly but it is OK to elbow Voracek in the head and smash Macdonald from behind clearly looking to injure?
- Daceroni


It's unwritten to him because he probably can't read.
FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
What does Wilson know about it being an unwritten rule. It is not OK to hit someone cleanly but it is OK to elbow Voracek in the head and smash Macdonald from behind clearly looking to injure?
- Daceroni


He's a clown. The whole team is full of whiny babies.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 2:45 PM ET
Actually, they're keeping him because that's the contract he signed. Reality isn't NHL 16 where you make all the trades you want and build a super dynasty because your smarter than an Xbox.

Anybody who know's just about anything about the NHL know's the goalie market is (basically) always flooded. Hextall didn't trade Neuvirth because there wasn't a single GM in the league that was going to give Hextall even close to what he wanted for Neuvirth - and good on him.

He's worth much more to the team than the lousy return we would have gotten in the trade. Probably the best 1-2 goalie combo in the league coming back next year for less of a cap hit than some teams pay their starter.

- mochoson


This.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 23 @ 2:48 PM ET
What if Raffl was 3C next year?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 23 @ 2:50 PM ET
No hearing or anything for Chimera..shocking
- five4fighting10

Let's send em a video!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
What if Raffl was 3C next year?
- Mononoke

I wouldn't female dog, honestly, but that means we'd need a winger to fill that open spot.

KONECNY. HELLO SIR. WELCOME.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
What if Raffl was 3C next year?
- Mononoke

stupid trade him
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
stupid trade him
- 2Real

so since Neuvirth is starting you need another senseless scapegoat? Has Raff been crowned?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
I forgot we got LA's 3rd. Good stuff. Blues need to finish the job tonight against the Hawks and those picks will be higher than anyone thought they'd be.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Apr 23 @ 3:04 PM ET
I wouldn't female dog, honestly, but that means we'd need a winger to fill that open spot.

KONECNY. HELLO SIR. WELCOME.

- Giroux_Is_God


It's contingent on the roster. There is absolutely zero drop off in his game from wing to center, even if he's best used as a winger. He's a smart 3 zone player who can face whatever type of competition, he's respectable on draws, he makes his linemates better. This organization has a huge prospect hole at center ice, but Raffl might make a good stop gap there. He'd be a 30+ point 3C who doesn't need sheltering. And I think he's a legit 3C, whereas someone like Cousins is a bit of a reach.

And that winger might be dark horse Lindblom.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 23 @ 3:06 PM ET
Cooter back at practice today
- kej83

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:23 PM ET
Officially count me in for resigning Sam Gagner and Ryan White BTW. I'm willing to bet a lot of money right now at least one or both of these guys are back next year.

Ryan White seems to just love it here and won't be overly expensive in dollars or years.

With the season Gagner had, I think we can bring him back on a 1 or 2 year deal pretty easy. What's he worth though? And at that point, now you're talking about a gluttony of forwards. Would basically be the same team coming back with no opportunity for any Phantoms/Konecny to make the team.

We could probably buy out Matt Read and resign Gagner and White with most of the cap savings. We pay Matt Read alone almost 4 mill (3.625).

White @ 1.25 (2 yrs, 2.5 mill total) + Gagner @ 2.75 (1 year, or 2 years at 2.5 for a total of 5) + Matt Read buyout @ 1.25=5.25

Just spit balling ideas. I'd obviously rather trade Read and even retain money if we have to than buy him out, but I'm of the strong opinion that he's got to go. He's been out played by just about everybody on this roster all year with the exception of VandeVelde. He's really bad.

- mochoson



Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
Butter soft from whoever is in pens net
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
It's contingent on the roster. There is absolutely zero drop off in his game from wing to center, even if he's best used as a winger. He's a smart 3 zone player who can face whatever type of competition, he's respectable on draws, he makes his linemates better. This organization has a huge prospect hole at center ice, but Raffl might make a good stop gap there. He'd be a 30+ point 3C who doesn't need sheltering. And I think he's a legit 3C, whereas someone like Cousins is a bit of a reach.

And that winger might be dark horse Lindblom.

- Mononoke

Raff really is an unsung hero.

For all the talk the 4th liners get and for all the flak G/Jake get (especially this year...warranted or not)- Raffl has been steady as a rock for what he does. Plays with size too. Good complimentary player.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Apr 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
Another softie
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 23 @ 3:51 PM ET
What if Raffl was 3C next year?
- Mononoke


Huh.

It would probably work, tbh
WhirlingDervish
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "Make The Flyers Great Again", PA
Joined: 02.01.2016

Apr 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
Provorov blast

https://mobile.twitter.co...23706605313740801/video/1

Brandon win

- Just5


Thanks for that
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