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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
Daniel Henrik Hansen
??? Sutter ???
Baerstchi Horvat Virtanen
??? ??? Dorsett
This is more my thoughts.

- thundachunk



This is my thoughts

Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Sven Sutter UFA
Etem Horvat draft apick
Martin Granlund Dorsett

Rodin
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
Tanev... Super Quiet
Edler... English is ...... meh.
Dorsett.. Spraying the other team with water in the last 10 minutes of the last game of the season screams leadership

- Codes1087

Burrows : Hair puller, biter, refs whipping boy.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
"very good" is basically the description of the top franchise players, though arguments could be made for the likes of the Sedins and Naslund, Bure was our only definite elite player. If they can pick top 3 this year, that kid will hopefully be the new face of the franchise, leader and player to build around in the coming seasons
- WhiteLie


Mogilny was elite. Better player than Bure and Naslund even.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
This is my thoughts

Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Sven Sutter UFA
Etem Horvat draft apick
Martin Granlund Dorsett

Rodin

- VANTEL

The team is back to getting older again?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
Mogilny was elite. Better player than Bure and Naslund even.
- boonerbuck

Naslund should not be compared to either. I don't know if any Buffalo player ever will match Mo's 76 goal 127 point season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 11:53 AM ET
The team is back to getting older again?
- manvanfan

Just your first line , Vrbata Higgins and Burrows are all older than Ericksson
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
Just your first line
- VANTEL

two UFAs and martin will add 10 years to which was playing there.

Ericsson and another UFA are 10 years older then JV and McCann. Martin i like the idea. More experience on the 4th line would be nice.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
Mogilny was elite. Better player than Bure and Naslund even.
- boonerbuck


Messier was elite too but neither him or Mogilny would I consider "elite Canucks", term plays into it since, for me, it takes time to be the face of the franchise.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 15 @ 11:59 AM ET
Messier was elite too but neither him or Mogilny would I consider "elite Canucks", term plays into it since, for me, it takes time to be the face of the franchise.
- WhiteLie

Mogilny should be in the hall.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 11:59 AM ET

- thundachunk


Whats so funny. Mogilny broke 50 goals a number of times(twice for us) including his 72 goal season which Bure never reached. He was a better all round player than Bure. Bure was more exciting. Exciting is a different category than Elite.

Naslund had a slow start to his career and waned fairly early. He was elite for a minor part of his career...

I'd like to see your argument against?




you edited while I was posting
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
Messier was elite too but neither him or Mogilny would I consider "elite Canucks", term plays into it since, for me, it takes time to be the face of the franchise.
- WhiteLie


Who was the last Canucks to break 50 goals twice?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
Burrows : Hair puller, biter, refs whipping boy.
- VANTEL



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
Naslund should not be compared to either. I don't know if any Buffalo player ever will match Mo's 76 goal 127 point season.
- thundachunk


I agree
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
[quote=VANTEL]This is my thoughts

Sedin Sedin Puljuurvi
Sven Sutter Hansen
Etem Horvat Eriksson
Martin Granlund Dorsett

Rodin

I have no problem with this line up.
Don't take stock in which line is first second or third. Horvat needs someone defensive on the wing to help his offence excel.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Whats so funny. Mogilny broke 50 goals a number of times(twice for us) including his 72 goal season which Bure never reached. He was a better all round player than Bure. Bure was more exciting. Exciting is a different category than Elite.

Naslund had a slow start to his career and waned fairly early. He was elite for a minor part of his career...

I'd like to see your argument against?




you edited while I was posting

- boonerbuck

I was only laughing at the Naslund comparison. I hit enter before I posted.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
I was only laughing at the Naslund comparison. I hit enter before I posted.
- thundachunk


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
two UFAs and martin will add 10 years to which was playing there.

Ericsson and another UFA are 10 years older then JV and McCann. Martin i like the idea. More experience on the 4th line would be nice.

- manvanfan


So is it better to send out 6 foot 180 lbs Jared McCann to play fourth line wing against the California teams 15 games a year or Martin who is 6'3 220 lbs and 26 years old
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
[quote=VANTEL]This is my thoughts

Sedin Sedin Puljuurvi
Sven Sutter Hansen
Etem Horvat Eriksson
Martin Granlund Dorsett

Rodin

I have no problem with this line up.
Don't take stock in which line is first second or third. Horvat needs someone defensive on the wing to help his offence excel.

- manvanfan

If we get #2 I don't take Piljuurvi. It is almost a toss up for me to pick Laine or Mathews for #1. I still take Mathews though.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
Who was the last Canucks to break 50 goals twice?

- boonerbuck


Not Mogilny?
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ats/pdisplay.php?pid=3762
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 15 @ 12:08 PM ET
So is it better to send out 6 foot 180 lbs Jared McCann to play fourth line wing against the California teams 15 games a year or Martin who is 6'3 220 lbs and 26 years old
- VANTEL

haha thanks for reading what I wrote. if your going to respond then at least read it.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
Not Mogilny?
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ats/pdisplay.php?pid=3762

- WhiteLie


I thought he did twice. He did hit 55 for us though.

I got his 72 wrong as well. It was 76.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
If we get #2 I don't take Piljuurvi. It is almost a toss up for me to pick Laine or Mathews for #1. I still take Mathews though.
- thundachunk

we are sitting in third right now, that's what i was projecting because according to pro scouts Laine is just ahead of Puljujärvi (that's going to be annoying to spell over the years).
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
[quote=VANTEL]This is my thoughts

Sedin Sedin Puljuurvi
Sven Sutter Hansen
Etem Horvat Eriksson
Martin Granlund Dorsett

Rodin

I have no problem with this line up.
Don't take stock in which line is first second or third. Horvat needs someone defensive on the wing to help his offence excel.

- manvanfan


You don't need to spend 5.5 mil on a third line player. He also scored 30 goals this year. You seen what happened with Vrbatas production when you don't play him to his strengths
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:13 PM ET
haha thanks for reading what I wrote. if your going to respond then at least read it.
- manvanfan


You added that on after the original post . Your first post said we are adding years
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 15 @ 12:14 PM ET
I thought he did twice. He did hit 55 for us though.

I got his 72 wrong as well. It was 76.

- boonerbuck


I dont disagree that Mognily was great by the way. The point that maybe I veered from a bit over the responses is that the franchise's best players have always been individually very good and, with the exception of Bure, not elite.

If you were taking a single player from any year and going head to head against anyone from that same season, I think Bure would have been the only one people would want and the rest, Naslund/Sedins/etc. would not be in the top 10 individual players in the league. I am hopeful based on the projections for the top 3 in this draft, we get one
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