daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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If he had good wingers blah blah blah
I hate the 'if' word
Its like 'if' = fact - Lee Denault
You can come up with "ifs" for every player in the league if you want to. |
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Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Time to get Schwifty Joined: 11.16.2007
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You gotta consider buffs PP has Eichel and reinhart.. TO's PP has PAP and (frank)ing Grabner.. im not saying Kadri is far better than ROR, im just saying id prefer him for the reason stated. - Arctic_AARDVARK
Nylander and Rielly are chopped liver I suppose |
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Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Time to get Schwifty Joined: 11.16.2007
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You can come up with "ifs" for every player in the league if you want to. - daeth
Yep |
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tomt8391
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Saw Forsberg at the airport, NY Joined: 06.30.2010
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He's definitely tough to play against in the sense you can't put your stick 2 feet away from his feet or else he will go down like a sack of bricks.
But he will light you up from time to time - Lee Denault
Kadri definitely owns him in the "fined for diving / embellishment" category.
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Lee Denault
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Time to get Schwifty Joined: 11.16.2007
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Kadri definitely owns him in the "fined for diving / embellishment" category. - tomt8391
He also knows how to throw a body check |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Yeah.
But you can hide behind the opinion firewall and convo over
In my opinion the sky is red - Lee Denault
You're being silly..
There are factors in play here that should be considered if you want to determine the true value of a player. If someone wants to argue the sky is red then he's crazy.. but saying Kadri didnt have good wingers is a legit point.. everyone agrees that the Leafs need to get Sundin better wingers than he had.. but to suggest the same thing for Kadri draws sharp critisizm. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Nylander and Rielly are chopped liver I suppose - Lee Denault
Nylander didnt play most of the season... Rielly and risto cancel each other out. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Sundin played better with Hoglund than he did with Mogilny for what it's worth. |
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tomt8391
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Saw Forsberg at the airport, NY Joined: 06.30.2010
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You're being silly..
There are factors in play here that should be considered if you want to determine the true value of a player. If someone wants to argue the sky is red then he's crazy.. but saying Kadri didnt have good wingers is a legit point.. everyone agrees that the Leafs need to get Sundin better wingers than he had.. but to suggest the same thing for Kadri draws sharp critisizm. - Arctic_AARDVARK
We've reached the "comparing Kadri to Sundin" plateau of the conversation. Good for us.
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Nylander didnt play most of the season... Rielly and risto cancel each other out. - Arctic_AARDVARK
you really got to hide the raging kadri boner |
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We've reached the "comparing Kadri to Sundin" plateau of the conversation. Good for us. - tomt8391
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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I like Kadri and I hope they keep him FWIW. O'Reilly is better though. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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He's soft from a "I won't fight you for no reason, or destroy you in open ice" standpoint, but he plays a really heavy in tight, grinding down low style of hockey. He also has the finesse to compliment that play. I do like Kadri's skill set, but I wouldn't consider him a tough player. - tomt8391
I think Kadri is tougher than ROR for sure.. he might fall down easier but thats partly to draw penalties.. ROR wouldnt fight backes if his career depended on it. Kadri take a beating every game and handles it well. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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36.0% defensive zone faceoffs, 27.9% offensive zone faceoffs for risto
34.2% defensive zone faceoffs, 30% offensive zone faceoffs for rielly
25 minutes a game for risto, 23 for rielly. SH TOI around the same for both (slight edge to risto) - daeth
So not a lot of difference between the two |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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Kadri definitely owns him in the "fined for diving / embellishment" category. - tomt8391
Kadri didnt deserve the fine he got.. and the refs turned a blind eye to all the infractions against him 3/4 the way through the season |
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tomt8391
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Saw Forsberg at the airport, NY Joined: 06.30.2010
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I think Kadri is tougher than ROR for sure.. he might fall down easier but thats partly to draw penalties.. ROR wouldnt fight backes if his career depended on it. Kadri take a beating every game and handles it well. - Arctic_AARDVARK
ROR is definitely not a fighter, but to classify him as a soft player, I think, is unfair.
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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We've reached the "comparing Kadri to Sundin" plateau of the conversation. Good for us. - tomt8391
I never compared the two.. excpet for the fact that they didnt have the wingers they needed to reach their full potential. Kadri wont be half the player Sundin was. So we can drop the act now. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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So not a lot of difference between the two - burn
Massive defensive minutes, more so than Rielly
was i wrong though? lol |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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I like Kadri and I hope they keep him FWIW. O'Reilly is better though. - daeth
Your opinion man.. If Kadri put up the same points i doubt you'd be saying that. |
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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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was i wrong though? lol - daeth
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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Your opinion man.. If Kadri put up the same points i doubt you'd be saying that. - Arctic_AARDVARK
I actually think Kadri can still be a stud. I wouldn't be surprised if he has a 70 or 80 pt year at least once in his career. Hehe is very similar to Ribeiro, but more skill, and more compete. The only thing Kadri needs to work on is his shot. |
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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- burn
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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Your opinion man.. If Kadri put up the same points i doubt you'd be saying that. - Arctic_AARDVARK
While Kadri has learned to backcheck this year he hasn't learned how to do it as effectively as ROR yet. |
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matt1337
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: 925K. Talented player. (Lehtonen) Santo_44, ON Joined: 09.28.2010
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hate all of you - twiztedmike
We all hate you too |
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