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SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 6 @ 3:26 AM ET
A number of years ago i heard on a radio sports talk show someone say...

"Character is tested in the face of adversity"

The past 3 games I'd say the kids r showing this & the Sedins embody it.
Quitting is easy but it takes a man to stick it out.

- Nighthawk

theyre likely pushing them yes.

I wouldnt be surprised if sedins are acting out though from missing playoffs either.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Apr 6 @ 3:45 AM ET
an excellent post I found on the net amongst many others

"last year everyone thought that his rolling four lines schtick was good for team cohesion and giving all the young kids a chance. but he really "shocked" everyone by doing the exact same thing in the playoffs. Its like a player that only has one gear, that a player, but a coach is supposed to be a mastermind that gets to really show off his strategic approach game-within-a-game thing in his time to strive...his special skill is supposed to be strategy right? otherwise I can coach! At first I thought he was biding his time and there's this masterful reveal that 1-2-3-4 was his rop-a-dope for Hartley.... but nope..... 123412341234 ad nauseum....

Its like your junior coach came down with the flu this morning and your genial uncle who used to coach peewee is subbing in for him. Its fun and games for a while....

But yeah... fans are more informed and coaches has a lot more concerned eyes to convince. They have to roll with this age of information of advanced stats with fans talking to each other and comparing notes though. He's the wrong coach for this town of rabid informed fans and media. Vancouver is snobby, like when Gollum lost his composure with the anaheim play-by-play guy who kept referring to the Ducks as "We" the other day. When a nice clueless guy arrives here, everyone is just licking their chops and waiting for the right moment..... and Hughson provided the perfect moment for fans and media alike on a national TV timeout."

I like how that poster also states "a coach is supposed to be a mastermind that gets to really show off his strategic approach game-within-a-game thing in his time to strive...his special skill is supposed to be strategy right? " Thats what most fans do not get. Coaches role is to be a strategic mastermind. If you arent you'll get schooled repeatedly. Looks familiar here in van
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 6 @ 4:36 AM ET
an excellent post I found on the net amongst many others

"last year everyone thought that his rolling four lines schtick was good for team cohesion and giving all the young kids a chance. but he really "shocked" everyone by doing the exact same thing in the playoffs. Its like a player that only has one gear, that a player, but a coach is supposed to be a mastermind that gets to really show off his strategic approach game-within-a-game thing in his time to strive...his special skill is supposed to be strategy right? otherwise I can coach! At first I thought he was biding his time and there's this masterful reveal that 1-2-3-4 was his rop-a-dope for Hartley.... but nope..... 123412341234 ad nauseum....

Its like your junior coach came down with the flu this morning and your genial uncle who used to coach peewee is subbing in for him. Its fun and games for a while....

But yeah... fans are more informed and coaches has a lot more concerned eyes to convince. They have to roll with this age of information of advanced stats with fans talking to each other and comparing notes though. He's the wrong coach for this town of rabid informed fans and media. Vancouver is snobby, like when Gollum lost his composure with the anaheim play-by-play guy who kept referring to the Ducks as "We" the other day. When a nice clueless guy arrives here, everyone is just licking their chops and waiting for the right moment..... and Hughson provided the perfect moment for fans and media alike on a national TV timeout."

I like how that poster also states "a coach is supposed to be a mastermind that gets to really show off his strategic approach game-within-a-game thing in his time to strive...his special skill is supposed to be strategy right? " Thats what most fans do not get. Coaches role is to be a strategic mastermind. If you arent you'll get schooled repeatedly. Looks familiar here in van

- SMBDragon


I've coached competitive fastball & i had my own style but i always had other gears to use as the opportunity arose. Also sometimes not changing gears is also the way to go & stay the course. Judgement & predicting is a hard skill. That said having an open mind & willing to adjust or seek other ways as the game presents itself is my overall way to coach. I was not always right but right more often than not if i trusted my eyes & knowledge & instincts. When wrong i learned from it & filed it for future uses if or when needed. In the end i was unpredictable & it kept our opponents on their toes cuz i myself did not know what or when i would do something different until that time arrived. As a pitcher keeping the opponents off balance was a very successful approach & i used it in my coaching approach.

Reason i go on as in above is i wonder what WD does likewise. I don't presume he is not a good coach but at times i wonder about his lines or why at times he doesn't ride the kids at times & give more ice time to play thru the tougher stretches. More PP time to allow them to gain confidence is one thing i would like to see. The way the Sedins run the PP is one way to do it but 27th overall PP tells me the kids could do it their way & be less predictable & find some magic. It might ruffle the Sedins feathers but going forward its about success & scoring & they r not the sole offence on the team & we all know secondary scoring is a league wide want for any team. As long as the Sedins get all the PP time we cannot expect better results until the opportunity is spread around. In the Sedins early years they were the 2nd PP unit & its prolly time to go there again in these last 3 games.

My new KID PP:

JM/JV Bo Sven
Hutton Tree

Lets see Tree set up for one timers from BHutt or forwards.
If JV is on wing he can screen goalies or slam rebounds.
If JM he can dance or shoot along with Sven.
Bo is the general & digger & set up man or can shoot when in prime position.
Bo wins FO's the best & is logical to get the PP started.
BHutt is the QB & uses his poise to keep the PK guessing.

This PP unit is solely based on this years roster & others eg Rodin or maybe even Boeser could be next years new look.

Finish up with Sedins when the PK is tired or on their 2nd PK unit.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 9:03 AM ET
Some should get a room or exchange phone numbers
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 6 @ 9:15 AM ET
Tankers never played a competitive sport in their life where winning was the only reason to play. Not playing to win defeats the purpose of competition by its very definition. Leave tanking to the billionaire owners to mock the game.
- Nighthawk

this is a bi-product of socialist ideology and leftist thinking... social engineering has made it so winning and losing doesn't make a difference and everyone should be applauded for simply participating...
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 6 @ 9:26 AM ET
this is a bi-product of socialist ideology and leftist thinking... social engineering has made it so winning and losing doesn't make a difference and everyone should be applauded for simply participating...
- kaptaan

Wrong forum.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 6 @ 9:50 AM ET
an excellent post I found on the net amongst many others

"last year everyone thought that his rolling four lines schtick was good for team cohesion and giving all the young kids a chance. but he really "shocked" everyone by doing the exact same thing in the playoffs. Its like a player that only has one gear, that a player, but a coach is supposed to be a mastermind that gets to really show off his strategic approach game-within-a-game thing in his time to strive...his special skill is supposed to be strategy right? otherwise I can coach! At first I thought he was biding his time and there's this masterful reveal that 1-2-3-4 was his rop-a-dope for Hartley.... but nope..... 123412341234 ad nauseum....

Its like your junior coach came down with the flu this morning and your genial uncle who used to coach peewee is subbing in for him. Its fun and games for a while....

But yeah... fans are more informed and coaches has a lot more concerned eyes to convince. They have to roll with this age of information of advanced stats with fans talking to each other and comparing notes though. He's the wrong coach for this town of rabid informed fans and media. Vancouver is snobby, like when Gollum lost his composure with the anaheim play-by-play guy who kept referring to the Ducks as "We" the other day. When a nice clueless guy arrives here, everyone is just licking their chops and waiting for the right moment..... and Hughson provided the perfect moment for fans and media alike on a national TV timeout."

I like how that poster also states "a coach is supposed to be a mastermind that gets to really show off his strategic approach game-within-a-game thing in his time to strive...his special skill is supposed to be strategy right? " Thats what most fans do not get. Coaches role is to be a strategic mastermind. If you arent you'll get schooled repeatedly. Looks familiar here in van

- SMBDragon

Hughson wasn't the guy, it was Craig Simpson who said, "you're losing because the coach isn't coaching..."

WD made it easy for Hartley who essentially knew what WD was going to do with every line, so Hartley got all the match ups he wanted...
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 6 @ 9:51 AM ET
Wrong forum.
- Marwood

is this comment in the right forum then...
Some should get a room or exchange phone numbers
-VANTEL


if this forum is only about hockey then I'd think you'd take the same policing approach to other non-hockey specific analogies, comments, metaphors, etc...

or, is it that you specifically would rather I not comment here? You seem to have a very selective approach when criticizing posts here along with one and maybe two other posters here...
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 6 @ 9:55 AM ET
Some should get a room or exchange phone numbers
- VANTEL

nice
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 6 @ 10:04 AM ET
is this comment in the right forum then...


if this forum is only about hockey then I'd think you'd take the same policing approach to other non-hockey specific analogies, comments, metaphors, etc...

or, is it that you specifically would rather I not comment here? You seem to have a very selective approach when criticizing posts here along with one and maybe two other posters here...

- kaptaan

Fox News might be the more appropriate forum for your philosophic political rant.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 6 @ 10:14 AM ET
Some should get a room or exchange phone numbers
- VANTEL

lol...some need to get off the fire the coach train as well...getting as bad as 1040 on here...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 6 @ 10:21 AM ET
Fox News might be the more appropriate forum for your philosophic political rant.
- Marwood

lol well at least it wasn't Weise or Toews. This is basically what I was getting when reading Kap's rant...and Dragons constant rant about WD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTTWeKmuTFA
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 6 @ 10:29 AM ET
Hughson wasn't the guy, it was Craig Simpson who said, "you're losing because the coach isn't coaching..."

WD made it easy for Hartley who essentially knew what WD was going to do with every line, so Hartley got all the match ups he wanted...

- kaptaan

So, let me get this straight...the lack of goaltending, toughness, hitting, secondary scoring, so forth and so on is all on WD from the first round Flames matchup last year? None of it was player personnel and the lack of actual depth on the team?

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Apr 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
is this comment in the right forum then...


if this forum is only about hockey then I'd think you'd take the same policing approach to other non-hockey specific analogies, comments, metaphors, etc...

or, is it that you specifically would rather I not comment here? You seem to have a very selective approach when criticizing posts here along with one and maybe two other posters here...

- kaptaan



First of all I was not commenting at you.

Secondly I seldom criticize posts on here.

I was joking about dragon and nighthawks 3 page discussion that was late into the night.

Don't be so defensive
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 6 @ 10:38 AM ET
Build it & they will come.

An idea just came to me....
With all the tantrums & poor sports breaking sticks after a goal i suggest a new penalty named after a known goalie.

The Quick 2 minute Timeout for a Tantrum.

- Nighthawk


Add in a $300 fine and I think you might have something there.
onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC
Joined: 09.23.2015

Apr 6 @ 10:50 AM ET
Edler, Vey, Willie D = pages of whining , and we won a game / we suck , thats pretty much a daily process in this blog
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
Hughson wasn't the guy, it was Craig Simpson who said, "you're losing because the coach isn't coaching..."

WD made it easy for Hartley who essentially knew what WD was going to do with every line, so Hartley got all the match ups he wanted...

- kaptaan


A coach who rarely deviates from his 'roll the lines' approach also happens to be the bench boss for the team with the worst home record in the league. Coincidence?

I don't think they'll fire WD this summer but they damn well better have a chat with him about some improved strategies and systems.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Apr 6 @ 10:51 AM ET
Fox News might be the more appropriate forum for your philosophic political rant.
- Marwood

Fox news is fair and balanced.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 6 @ 10:52 AM ET
Fox news is fair and balanced.
- thundachunk

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 6 @ 11:00 AM ET
A coach who rarely deviates from his 'roll the lines' approach also happens to be the bench boss for the team with the worst home record in the league. Coincidence?

I don't think they'll fire WD this summer but they damn well better have a chat with him about some improved strategies and systems.

- YeOldTimer

Let's worry about changing the roster and personnel and getting the right players in place...then we can worry yet another coaching change.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Apr 6 @ 11:03 AM ET
Best thing about only 3 games left is won't have to read about tankers wanting losses after game 82 is in the books. FYI it has very little bearing on luck & where we draft. In my books tankers r not fans at all.
- Nighthawk


Your books are not worth a read.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:12 AM ET
Let's worry about changing the roster and personnel and getting the right players in place...then we can worry yet another coaching change.
- LordHumungous



Good teams dictate the play, force the opposition to match them. I want the team to build a roster that can roll the lines and let the other team worry about matchups, not tread water by salvaging an OT point here because a coach double-shifted the Twins for half the game
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:16 AM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/thumbs-...tthews-potential-1.465559

Dave Hodge is rooting for Canucks at the lottery
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 6 @ 11:19 AM ET
Big ceremony tonight with all the Oiler greats coming out for the last game in the stink-hole they call Rexall Place; I hope it doesn't take forever and the Oilers come out with a better effort.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 6 @ 11:23 AM ET
First of all I was not commenting at you.

Secondly I seldom criticize posts on here.

I was joking about dragon and nighthawks 3 page discussion that was late into the night.

Don't be so defensive

- VANTEL

VANTEL, i wasn't picking on your comment, just Marwood selectively pointing out perceived issues with my comment in a biased manner.

i have no problem with anyone posting whatever they want any myriad of topics. i just don't like being singled out for opprobrium, but would prefer if someone is going to act like a policeman that they do so in an even handed manner...
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