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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:34 AM ET
Nah don't get down on Simon at all. Don't forget, his as well as other WBS players performance have suffered 1. due to the coaching change midseason, but more importantly, his supporting cast left him for the NHL. Losing line mates like Sheary, Wilson, Sundie, Kuhnachle, and even DP and Warsfofsky has hurt his production. All of these guys are in the NHL now for one reason or another so his offensive game would obviously benefit if they all were still in WBS. AHL teams had to worry about Wilson and Sheary tearing them up and not even realize that Simon was there and could do just as much damage as they could and he's only a rookie.

Having 21 goals in a rookie season as a 6th round pick (?) is really impressive at this level. If those guys were stilll here, he would have over 30 easily.

- Reverend Killtaker

That's good to hear. I assumed that the depletion of surrounding skill was a huge factor. From what I can tell the blue line over there sucks now too and we all know what a plodding blue line that can't help move the puck up ice can do to forward production. That's why I said that I hope the influx of skill from Guentzel, Blueger, and Prow can get him back on track. By the way, what are the line combos WBS are using over there anyways?
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Apr 1 @ 9:40 AM ET
Get the app. I've never had problems on my phone.
- Victoro311


But the data charges

I do use the app at home but I don't get great service out here. Firefox has been working though
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:42 AM ET
I will be happy to read whatever facts you can come up with to substantiate that claim. To me it is obvious you are going to say April Fools or you are confusing real life with NHL 16
- YuenglingJagr


Rinne benefited from Barry Trotz' conservative coaching style in Nashville. He is a good goalie, I don't think there is a lot of difference between Mason and Rinne. And to your point of Salary Cap and age, Mason is definitely better value and has a better future.

I will take Fluery and all his head problems over Rinne, Mason or Nuevirth.
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Apr 1 @ 9:46 AM ET
Rinne benefited from Barry Trotz' conservative coaching style in Nashville. He is a good goalie, I don't think there is a lot of difference between Mason and Rinne. And to your point of Salary Cap and age, Mason is definitely better value and has a better future.

I will take Fluery and all his head problems over Rinne, Mason or Nuevirth.

- Thunderbolt


Speaking of Fluery, 7 straight 35 win seasons, a Stanley Cup, and I believe a gold medal. When he bags another Cup does that warrant HOF consideration?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:49 AM ET
Maatta was playing excellent hockey before he went down. I know +/- isn't that great of a stat, but the fact that he was a +27, for a defenseman who isn't hugely offensively inclined, was a pretty impressive number. To stretch that out further, he was on the ice for 41 ES goals against in 67 games, while playing the second most ES time on ice on the team. That's pretty impressive.
- cap1681


I actually think Maatta needed a little break. He was looking gassed out there. This short term injury might be a blessing in disguise. It also aided in getting Pouliot some much needed playing time.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:50 AM ET
Speaking of Fluery, 7 straight 35 win seasons, a Stanley Cup, and I believe a gold medal. When he bags another Cup does that warrant HOF consideration?
- Topshelf Mountain


Add Olympic gold medal to that too. He will be a HOF'r.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:50 AM ET
Speaking of Fluery, 7 straight 35 win seasons, a Stanley Cup, and I believe a gold medal. When he bags another Cup does that warrant HOF consideration?
- Topshelf Mountain

Bucci tweeted a few months ago that he's already a shoo in. Imagine the aneurism Holeinone will get if Fleury gets honored one day
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:50 AM ET
I actually think Maatta needed a little break. He was looking gassed out there. This short term injury might be a blessing in disguise. It also aided in getting Pouliot some much needed playing time.
- MattStrat



His likely win total to end his career at this pace should be enough for the HoF alone. Looking like 3rd would be very likely, almost easy... with a chance for 1 or 2 in wins.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:51 AM ET
I actually think Maatta needed a little break. He was looking gassed out there. This short term injury might be a blessing in disguise. It also aided in getting Pouliot some much needed playing time.
- MattStrat

I'm not convinced that Maatta's injury wasn't minor to non-existent. I honestly think we are resting him. I'm not concerned about his health going into the playoffs at all.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 1 @ 9:51 AM ET
Dude, he is better than anything between the pipes in Philly.
- Oneonta Penguin


In spirit of the blog

5v5 save percentage last 3 seasons - GAA

Player A: .936 - 2.00

Player B: .928 - 2.3

Player C: .926 - 2.48

Care to take a guess?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:52 AM ET
In spirit of the blog

5v5 save percentage last 3 seasons - GAA

Player A: .936 - 2.00

Player B: .928 - 2.3

Player C: .926 - 2.48

Care to take a guess?

- YuenglingJagr

A: Neuvrith

B: Mason

C: Rinne
Topshelf Mountain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: 07.26.2007

Apr 1 @ 9:54 AM ET
Bucci tweeted a few months ago that he's already a shoo in. Imagine the aneurism Holeinone will get if Fleury gets honored one day
- Victoro311


Didn't realize people are already shooing him in! Actually thought I'd get laughed at for posting the question. I was asked last night about it and said no, then thought about it and started to think yes. Those couple playoff rounds didn't help but other than that he's been great!
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:56 AM ET
Speaking of Fluery, 7 straight 35 win seasons, a Stanley Cup, and I believe a gold medal. When he bags another Cup does that warrant HOF consideration?
- Topshelf Mountain


Very impressive stuff. He still has several really good years ahead also. He should end up near the top in career wins when all is said and done. So I would say yes.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:57 AM ET
Didn't realize people are already shooing him in! Actually thought I'd get laughed at for posting the question. I was asked last night about it and said no, then thought about it and started to think yes. Those couple playoff rounds didn't help but other than that he's been great!
- Topshelf Mountain

People forget this because of his several playoff melt downs, but MAFs number of wins are absolutely legendary. Some of it can be attributed to a great team in front of him, but if MAF wasn't that good we would have looked to replace him and he wouldn't have the number of wins he has now. It's at the very least worth HOF consideration. If he wins another cup it won't even be up for debate.
Thunderbolt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wampum, PA
Joined: 01.20.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:58 AM ET
In spirit of the blog

5v5 save percentage last 3 seasons - GAA

Player A: .936 - 2.00

Player B: .928 - 2.3

Player C: .926 - 2.48

Care to take a guess?

- YuenglingJagr


I will say

A) Mason

B) Fluery

C) Nuevirth
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Apr 1 @ 9:58 AM ET
Very impressive stuff. He still has several really good years ahead also. He should end up near the top in career wins when all is said and done. So I would say yes.
- Thunderbolt


There's been a lot of great goalies doing great things pushing 40 years old, or even 40 years old, in the past. I see no reason he can't be one of those.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 1 @ 10:00 AM ET
A: Neuvrith

B: Mason

C: Rinne

- Victoro311


A. Mason, B. Neuvirth, C. James Reimer

Rinne is actually worse than Reimer....925 - 2.07

slightly on topic but you have to go back a while to get MAF near the top of the charts
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Apr 1 @ 10:01 AM ET
A. Mason, B. Neuvirth, C. James Reimer

Rinne is actually worse than Reimer....925 - 2.07

slightly on topic but you have to go back a while to get MAF near the top of the charts

- YuenglingJagr


The Cup Loss year, is most likely when he was at the near top. But despite his very high win totals most years, hes rarely been even close to the Vez trophy. Which is a bit of BS he got less credit due to Crosby and Malkin being on the team.
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Apr 1 @ 10:04 AM ET
That's good to hear. I assumed that the depletion of surrounding skill was a huge factor. From what I can tell the blue line over there sucks now too and we all know what a plodding blue line that can't help move the puck up ice can do to forward production. That's why I said that I hope the influx of skill from Guentzel, Blueger, and Prow can get him back on track. By the way, what are the line combos WBS are using over there anyways?
- Victoro311


The lines change somewhat often, but typically:

Dominik Simon – Dustin Jeffrey – Adam Krause
Mattias Plachta – Carter Rowney – Tom Kostopoulos
Josh Archibald – Kael Mouillierat – J-S Dea
Tom Sestito – Oskar Sundqvist – Jarrett Burton/Mcgrath

Tim Erixon – Steve Oleksy
Will O’Neill – Barry Goers
Reid McNeill – Niclas Andersen

Tristan Jarry – Franky Palazzese/Foster

*The Rowney and Jeffery lines vary as to who is the top line really. Interchangeable
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Apr 1 @ 10:06 AM ET
A. Mason, B. Neuvirth, C. James Reimer

Rinne is actually worse than Reimer....925 - 2.07

slightly on topic but you have to go back a while to get MAF near the top of the charts

- YuenglingJagr


Doesn't change who I'd take. So, you would take Reimer over Rinne based on that? LOL.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Apr 1 @ 10:07 AM ET
The lines change somewhat often, but typically:

Dominik Simon – Dustin Jeffrey – Adam Krause
Mattias Plachta – Carter Rowney – Tom Kostopoulos
Josh Archibald – Kael Mouillierat – J-S Dea
Tom Sestito – Oskar Sundqvist – Jarrett Burton/Mcgrath

Tim Erixon – Steve Oleksy
Will O’Neill – Barry Goers
Reid McNeill – Niclas Andersen

Tristan Jarry – Franky Palazzese/Foster

*The Rowney and Jeffery lines vary as to who is the top line really. Interchangeable

- Reverend Killtaker


What is the scouting report on Plachta? Does he have any value?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 1 @ 10:09 AM ET
The lines change somewhat often, but typically:

Dominik Simon – Dustin Jeffrey – Adam Krause
Mattias Plachta – Carter Rowney – Tom Kostopoulos
Josh Archibald – Kael Mouillierat – J-S Dea
Tom Sestito – Oskar Sundqvist – Jarrett Burton/Mcgrath

Tim Erixon – Steve Oleksy
Will O’Neill – Barry Goers
Reid McNeill – Niclas Andersen

Tristan Jarry – Franky Palazzese/Foster

*The Rowney and Jeffery lines vary as to who is the top line really. Interchangeable

- Reverend Killtaker


Great... So they use Sundqvist on a checking line? That's not his developmental need...

Anyways, does Rowney have any NHL potential. It seems like every WBS update on DK has fawned over him.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 1 @ 10:10 AM ET
The Cup Loss year, is most likely when he was at the near top. But despite his very high win totals most years, hes rarely been even close to the Vez trophy. Which is a bit of BS he got less credit due to Crosby and Malkin being on the team.
- Guile


very true...he was better that season than the year they won the cup
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Apr 1 @ 10:11 AM ET
very true...he was better that season than the year they won the cup
- YuenglingJagr



Hes been better this year and last than he was the Cup run year. Although his postseason in the cup run was fine.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 1 @ 10:12 AM ET
Doesn't change who I'd take. So, you would take Reimer over Rinne based on that? LOL.
- Oneonta Penguin


Again...if contract is in play then yes absolutely. Even salary I would certainly consider it. The point of what I am saying is less about who is better and more about Mason being better than you give him credit (fairly common around the NHL), Rinne being much worse than youre giving him credit for, and also...goalies tend to be so up and down anyway that I find it hard to justify the large salaries they get outside of a couple of them
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