I'm mostly in the camp that we make no big acquisitions, resign our own guys, find a cheap depth guy or two, maybe an underrated gem, filter in the prospects, and then work from there.

The only guy I'd have serious interest in signing to a decent sized contract is Jason Demers. But I have my doubts Hexy would even go that splashy...and it's not even too splashy. I also think expansion throws a monkey wrench into this offseason. They'd have to be comfortable with the protection slots.

I'm mostly in the camp that we make no big acquisitions, resign our own guys, find a cheap depth guy or two, maybe an underrated gem, filter in the prospects, and then work from there.

The only guy I'd have serious interest in signing to a decent sized contract is Jason Demers. But I have my doubts Hexy would even go that splashy.
- Mononoke

The next question is what does schenn get and does umberger get bought out because of schenn gets 5 and umberger stays on I don't see how they sign a high prices guy anyways unless of course a salary gone of streit or macdonald

I would assume umberger gets bought out though or I hope anyways. Way to many better options in the organization way cheaper

The next question is what does schenn get and does umberger get bought out because of schenn gets 5 and umberger stays on I don't see how they sign a high prices guy anyways unless of course a salary gone of streit or macdonald
- Philly2088

I think its no question Schenn asks for 5+

Signing Raffl with Schenn and Gudas next up is going to put the Flyers in a tight spot.

Hall is 23, on a pretty decent contract for his performance...plays on the Oilers, put him on a competitive team and he's a 40 goal man. His speed and grit would be amazing mesh with Giroux.

Personally I don't think Edmonton would want Streit, Del Zotto would be more interesting to them. The problem Edmonton has is they don't need more young players, they need established NHLers. Hall is one of their veterans, they would need someone to replace him and Simmonds would be perfect.

As for prospects, having depth in a position allows trades that strengthen other positions. Thinking all the defensive prospects are going to become all-stars is bit naive, must give to get.

Flyers could sign Stamkos, unfortunately people still think the Flyers can afford him. Even if they do fit him in, a few players will have to get moved to make room.
- Glak18

I dont believe that.. hell its been shown time and time again that guys dont all of a sudden become 40 goal scorers because they have better teammates. I jjust feel like we should trust this process.. No reason to go crazy to get one get one guy..

I dont believe that.. hell its been shown time and time again that guys dont all of a sudden become 40 goal scorers because they have better teammates. I jjust feel like we should trust this process.. No reason to go crazy to get one get one guy..
- jak521

As long as you are not thinking of Kessel than ok. Kessel is and was overrated.

Nothing is guaranteed...just take a look at Voracek.

I think its no question Schenn asks for 5+

Signing Raffl with Schenn and Gudas next up is going to put the Flyers in a tight spot.
- Glak18

Oh ya gudas. I wonder what he might get. Schultz or Mdz money ? Or maybe medvedev money and don't resign him again

Problem I would have is...I would not give up Provorov no way.

Simmonds would be a nice fit in Edmonton, I was thinking Schenn, but Wayne would be easier to part with.

Simmonds
Streit or MDZ
Sanheim
2016 1st

for

Hall
2017 1st

I know, thats a lot, but no way Edmonton gets a established #1 D plus.
- Glak18

I'd make this trade if it was 2016 1st from EDM. Would say 2017 1st and assuming they finish last again, but I don't know all that much about next years draft class. Having said that, I'd trade Couts over Simmonds if the draft selection was top center in the draft class that can make an immediate impact

Maybe I consider Simmonds for Hall straight up but then a team with limited toughness gets even easier to play against.

To throw in Simmonds + prospects + picks seems like a sever overpayment for Hall.

Simmonds brings too much to the table (goal scoring, leadership, toughness, young, on a good contract) to be part of a package like that.

Hall is 23, on a pretty decent contract for his performance...plays on the Oilers, put him on a competitive team and he's a 40 goal man. His speed and grit would be amazing mesh with Giroux.

Personally I don't think Edmonton would want Streit, Del Zotto would be more interesting to them. The problem Edmonton has is they don't need more young players, they need established NHLers. Hall is one of their veterans, they would need someone to replace him and Simmonds would be perfect.

As for prospects, having depth in a position allows trades that strengthen other positions. Thinking all the defensive prospects are going to become all-stars is bit naive, must give to get.

Flyers could sign Stamkos, unfortunately people still think the Flyers can afford him. Even if they do fit him in, a few players will have to get moved to make room.
- Glak18

No one said that they would all be studs. Provorov is as untouchable as a prospect gets, Morin is a wildcard but his size and potential are very promising, Sanheim I could see being moved but EDM needs established NHL defensemen. Not another prospect. They will ask for Ghost++. Maybe Sanheim, a couple firsts, and Simmonds gets it done but I don't like that deal at all. Hall has experienced nothing but perennial loss and disappointment ever since he came into the league. Not worth the cost/risk.

Oh ya gudas. I wonder what he might get. Schultz or Mdz money ? Or maybe medvedev money and don't resign him again
- Philly2088

I wish we just extended him right at the deadline like Raffl. Before all of his goal scoring. After all we did turn down 2 2nds supposedly so why not extend him right then and there

I think its no question Schenn asks for 5+

Signing Raffl with Schenn and Gudas next up is going to put the Flyers in a tight spot.
- Glak18

Moving Streit in the offseason or next TDL takes some sting out.

As long as you are not thinking of Kessel than ok. Kessel is and was overrated.

Nothing is guaranteed...just take a look at Voracek.
- Glak18

People have said it about pretty much every sniper..

Bobby Ryan could easily score 40 with G (despite playing on a line with Perry and Getz)
Vanek would kill it...
Yes, Kessel.

This list really does go on and on. Its actually really rare for a guy to make a pretty significant goal scoring jump based on a linemate.


So saying Hall will go from a career high of 27 goals.. to a 40 goal scorer because of Giroux is just not realistic IMO.

Maybe I consider Simmonds for Hall straight up but then a team with limited toughness gets even easier to play against.

To throw in Simmonds + prospects + picks seems like a sever overpayment for Hall.

Simmonds brings too much to the table (goal scoring, leadership, toughness, young, on a good contract) to be part of a package like that.
- opeth_pa

I'm starting to think people think Hall is a wussy, the kid is tough and gritty. As for Simmonds, he is a pretty one-dimensional player and good to have the PP, but White (yes he sucks) has shown being a slot presence will reward you with goals. Simmonds and his wiggling along the boards and losing it can be replaced.

I'm starting to think people think Hall is a wussy, the kid is tough and gritty. As for Simmonds, he is a pretty one-dimensional player and good to have the PP, but White (yes he sucks) has shown being a slot presence will reward you with goals. Simmonds and his wiggling along the boards and losing it can be replaced.
- Glak18

Im starting to think someone doesnt really appreciate all that Wayne Simmonds actually does.

People have said it about pretty much every sniper..

Bobby Ryan could easily score 40 with G (despite playing on a line with Perry and Getz)
Vanek would kill it...
Yes, Kessel.

This list really does go on and on. Its actually really rare for a guy to make a pretty significant goal scoring jump based on a linemate.


So saying Hall will go from a career high of 27 goals.. to a 40 goal scorer because of Giroux is just not realistic IMO.
- jak521

Every player in any sport, is based off of situation. How a player is used with their skillset determines a lot. Just example...saying Stamkos a 60 goal scorer going to the Flyers and scoring 50 is just as unrealistic. Stamkos could easily be a 30 goal scorer.

I'm starting to think people think Hall is a wussy, the kid is tough and gritty. As for Simmonds, he is a pretty one-dimensional player and good to have the PP, but White (yes he sucks) has shown being a slot presence will reward you with goals. Simmonds and his wiggling along the boards and losing it can be replaced.
- Glak18

That's all great but again, Hall is going to cost you way too much. EDM does not even have to move him. They don't like the offers then they move Eberle or RNH instead and let McJesus run with Hall for the next decade.

Every player in any sport, is based off of situation. How a player is used with their skillset determines a lot. Just example...saying Stamkos a 60 goal scorer going to the Flyers and scoring 50 is just as unrealistic. Stamkos could easily be a 30 goal scorer.
- Glak18

wat

Im starting to think someone doesnt really appreciate all that Wayne Simmonds actually does.
- jak521

Simmonds is good depth player, to think more is just over appreciating the basics.

wat
- Mordecai

English please.

Every player in any sport, is based off of situation. How a player is used with their skillset determines a lot. Just example...saying Stamkos a 60 goal scorer going to the Flyers and scoring 50 is just as unrealistic. Stamkos could easily be a 30 goal scorer.
- Glak18

I am not sure I even follow at this point.

So saying Stamkos could score 50 goals, a dropoff if you will, is the same as saying Hall could score goals at a 30% higher clip with G as his center?

Simmonds is good depth player, to think more is just over appreciating the basics.
- Glak18

Okay.. totally disagree, but I respect your opinion.

You basically have indicated that White could fill in for him. You flat out said he is a "good depth player".

Yet, he is one of the best power forwards in the game. Has averaged 28 goals a year over his Flyers career. Is our toughest forward, and is a true leader.

English please.
- Glak18

So you ignore my other comments giving reasonable explanations why trading for Taylor Hall would be a horrible idea but choose to critique a comment questioning your strange logic in a funny manner?

No hate just a little perplexed

Simmonds is good depth player, to think more is just over appreciating the basics.
- Glak18

wut

wut
- arichardson22

Got me.

That's all great but again, Hall is going to cost you way too much. EDM does not even have to move him. They don't like the offers then they move Eberle or RNH instead and let McJesus run with Hall for the next decade.
- Mordecai

Edmonton doesn't have to move anyone, but there is a possibility he could be moved.

P.S. McDavid and Hall don't play together.