We made it to the cup finals that year. He had the huge hit on Seabrook but after that , he stopped hitting
- VANTEL

Torres also obliterated Thorton in the Sharks series. Turning him into the one-armed man helped eliminate them too. Probably the main reason the Sharks signed him.

Torres also obliterated Thorton in the Sharks series. Turning him into the one-armed man helped eliminate them too. Probably the main reason the Sharks signed him.
- YeOldTimer

Some ppl don't see the value in players being rugged.

Some ppl don't see the value in players being rugged.
- Nighthawk

I just dont see value in another 3rd line center on this team.

Every playoff year we see how far our talent takes us n see what stops us.
Physical teams own us.

That was my original exact thought , but it has grown a life now
- VANTEL

Oh. I can't think of anything pissy to add at this point so I'll just leave it at that.

I ws just trying to lease Wlshyleaf fan. I am not projecting him top 6 until I see him play
- VANTEL

ahhh got ya.

His highlights video look really good though! Probably one of the most exciting prospects Ive seen in awhile. Glad they are working on contract right now.

Every playoff year we see how far our talent takes us n see what stops us.
Physical teams own us.
- Nighthawk

Having a hitter would be great IF we were a playoff team

I just dont see value in another 3rd line center on this team.
- Crazybagoham

What value do u think is out there that we can add?

If they have the chemistry. Allows Sutter to go back as 2C n Bo at 3C.
- Nighthawk

thats a given. If youve ever seen rodin play you know why he will get an extended look w sedins. He's got the goods to be a superstar. good hockey sense in him positionally

ahhh got ya.

His highlights video look really good though! Probably one of the most exciting prospects Ive seen in awhile. Glad they are working on contract right now.
- SMBDragon

I would start him third line , if he is really good he will move up quickly

Having a hitter would be great IF we were a playoff team
- A_SteamingLombardi

Well we don't want to look ahead to the future do we.
I guess u enjoyed the Flames running over us.
Its not like going thru LA n Anaheim in the future will get any easier.

Every playoff year we see how far our talent takes us n see what stops us.
Physical teams own us.
- Nighthawk

yes AND when we play physical we win.
But AV during his time here instilled discipline in the team and not to be physical so not to incur penalty. I see why, during that time the refs were brutal on us. It made sense to get team to not do anything that could possibly be used as excuse for penalty.
Problem is that time is over, coach is gone and needed to be changed back to more physical. Is yet to happen. Id love to see Edler get physicality back that has been missing.

Some ppl don't see the value in players being rugged.
- Nighthawk

In the olden days you used to have a group of rugged guys who played on your fourth line and tried to hit people. That's how Raffi was used in the 2011 playoffs.

But now you need rugged guys with varying degrees of skill on every line. And for success in the playoffs you don't so much need guys to run around and hit people as you need guys who can just run right over the other guys who are trying to hit you.



Separate and unrelated side note: Ferland forechecking Tryamkin should be interesting in a year or two.

Well we don't want to look ahead to the future do we.
I guess u enjoyed the Flames running over us.
Its not like going thru LA n Anaheim in the future will get any easier.
- Nighthawk

We need a new topic

I would start him third line , if he is really good he will move up quickly
- VANTEL

yep....

you know it makes me wonder if the shink trade was more about making room for rodin and getting the right center for him at the same time...essentially setting up the right scenario knowing rodin would be here

Just like some of our posters.
- A_SteamingLombardi

yep....

you know it makes me wonder if the shink trade was more about making room for rodin and getting the right center for him at the same time...essentially setting up the right scenario knowing rodin would be here
- SMBDragon

I think JB does not see Shink as an NHLer.

In the olden days you used to have a group of rugged guys who played on your fourth line and tried to hit people. That's how Raffi was used in the 2011 playoffs.

But now you need rugged guys with varying degrees of skill on every line. And for success in the playoffs you don't so much need guys to run around and hit people as you need guys who can just run right over the other guys who are trying to hit you.



Separate and unrelated side note: Ferland forechecking Tryamkin should be interesting in a year or two.
- YeOldTimer

that may come sooner than that

yep....

you know it makes me wonder if the shink trade was more about making room for rodin and getting the right center for him at the same time...essentially setting up the right scenario knowing rodin would be here
- SMBDragon

I can see the Shink Sven Rodin scenario, too many of that type. I don't know where I stand with Granlund yet? Two healthy scratches. He could have been brought in to replace Vey but it's not working out yet.

I think JB does not see Shink as an NHLer.
- Nighthawk

yes absolutely
makes you wonder if theres more to it though. JB always seems to have a long range plan well in advance.

yes absolutely
makes you wonder if theres more to it though. JB always seems to have a long range plan well in advance.
- SMBDragon

Especially on deadline day.

I can see the Shink Sven Rodin scenario, too many of that type. I don't know where I stand with Granlund yet? Two healthy scratches. He could have been brought in to replace Vey but it's not working out yet.
- VANTEL

JB's way of shuffling in players to find success. All his move have not cost us much all in all. Refreshing in some ways he does that n allows ppl spots to compete for.
I agree we have enough Sven n Rodin types.

Especially on deadline day.
- golfingsince

It was one big boring TDL anyways. Lol

I can see the Shink Sven Rodin scenario, too many of that type. I don't know where I stand with Granlund yet? Two healthy scratches. He could have been brought in to replace Vey but it's not working out yet.
- VANTEL

he looked great the 1st number of games ....missing too many games lately since then.....he's done poorly since??

yes AND when we play physical we win.
But AV during his time here instilled discipline in the team and not to be physical so not to incur penalty. I see why, during that time the refs were brutal on us. It made sense to get team to not do anything that could possibly be used as excuse for penalty.
Problem is that time is over, coach is gone and needed to be changed back to more physical. Is yet to happen. Id love to see Edler get physicality back that has been missing.
- SMBDragon

Edler has too many back issues to play as physical as he did when he was younger. That huge neutral-zone collision he had with Benn several years ago were the start of his problems. Hopefully missing the last few months of the year with the leg problem will allow him more time to build up some extra strength over the summer so he's better next year.