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anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Mar 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
This is just a feeling, but I think Matthews ends up in Vancouver. Matthews Boeser on our first line looks too good for it not to happen.

I'm feeling lucky.

- Scooby_Doo

I'd have the biggest boner if that happened but let's be real. This is the canucks.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
I have wondered this too. I know he is just a kid, and twitter posts should be taken with a grain of salt, but it is clear to see where is allegiance lies. He is the biggest Boston Bruins/Patriots fan I have on twitter. All posts are post-draft as well. The post regarding OEL and "yeah Vancouver is good" makes me wonder a bit about his intention to sign with us.
- Codes1087


Dont you mean pre-draft? His comment about Vancouver being good was made March 2015, and he was drafted in June 2015, no?

EDIT: I also wouldnt look much into his comments regardless, that was a bad goal for Vancouver to give up. I am sure if that was Boston or whomever the guy would've made the same poke for being really bad defensively on that play
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
I got the same feeling, its got to go Vancouver's way for once. Even if they finished 27-29, I am feeling this one cant go Edmonton or Toronto's way
- WhiteLie


Oilers or Leafs won't get it. I think it's going to be us #1, Blue Jackets #2 Leafs #3 Oilers #4.

After we draft Matthews, I'm sure Benning will trade McCann for a pick around 10-15 to get Bean or Fabbro. Might then try and trade Hansen for a later round 1st pick to get another defenseman. Then take another d with our early 2nd round pick.

Exciting times ahead.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 21 @ 3:51 PM ET
With the roll JB has been on at the draft table I don't want to give away many picks. I deserved to be flagged
- CanuckDon


agreed.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
I'd really prefer that it happens because the teams around them heat up rather than seeing the Canucks continue to flounder like they have over the last week.

That's two thumbs up Carol, I was feeling lonely, adrift at sea, with no one to assist or even care about me, I was even contemplating not posting again until September...and then this comment, that reassures me that you are also a bad canuck fan for not wanting the canucks to flounder... ahh to have some wind in my sails again
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
Dont you mean pre-draft? His comment about Vancouver being good was made March 2015, and he was drafted in June 2015, no?

EDIT: I also wouldnt look much into his comments regardless, that was a bad goal for Vancouver to give up. I am sure if that was Boston or whomever the guy would've made the same poke for being really bad defensively on that play

- WhiteLie


damn, didn't notice it was last year did notice his twitter and instagram profiles showed, Northeastern Hockey #8, Vancouver Canucks Prospect, PPW

what does PPW stand for?
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Mar 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
I'd really prefer that it happens because the teams around them heat up rather than seeing the Canucks continue to flounder like they have over the last week.

That's two thumbs up Carol, I was feeling lonely, adrift at sea, with no one to assist or even care about me, I was even contemplating not posting again until September...and then this comment, that reassures me that you are also a bad canuck fan for not wanting the canucks to flounder... ahh to have some wind in my sails again

- Makita


beans, beans, beans, beans
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Mar 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
Oilers or Leafs won't get it. I think it's going to be us #1, Blue Jackets #2 Leafs #3 Oilers #4.

After we draft Matthews, I'm sure Benning will trade McCann for a pick around 10-15 to get Bean or Fabbro. Might then try and trade Hansen for a later round 1st pick to get another defenseman. Then take another d with our early 2nd round pick.

Exciting times ahead.

- Scooby_Doo

whats the skinny on bean or fabbro? I havent really seen them or read about them, just their names here only.
Personally Im pretty pumped on segachev. Written scouting report on him i read was pretty awesome. Better than chychruns report.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
I'd really prefer that it happens because the teams around them heat up rather than seeing the Canucks continue to flounder like they have over the last week.

That's two thumbs up Carol, I was feeling lonely, adrift at sea, with no one to assist or even care about me, I was even contemplating not posting again until September...and then this comment, that reassures me that you are also a bad canuck fan for not wanting the canucks to flounder... ahh to have some wind in my sails again

- Makita


Gotta love D.Sedin for calling the guys out. I expect a better effort tomorrow. I won't be disappointed by losses, as I want a top-5 more than most seem to but it's not ok to get rocked like we have been. unfortunately our D is the worst shape it's been in all year, and that is saying something. Weber in ....
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 21 @ 4:01 PM ET
whats the skinny on bean or fabbro? I havent really seen them or read about them, just their names here only.
Personally Im pretty pumped on segachev. Written scouting report on him i read was pretty awesome. Better than chychruns report.

- SMBDragon


I personally would shy away from a highly touted Russian, especially a defenseman. They are an enigma, and I wouldn't waste an early first round pick on one.

From all reports I've read, Bean and Fabbro have been moving up the prospect ranks this year, which is what you want to see if picking someone. I'm not a fan of taking guys falling (Shinkaruk, McCann, Ho Sang etc..), I'd rather have someone stepping up when they need to.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
whats the skinny on bean or fabbro? I havent really seen them or read about them, just their names here only.
Personally Im pretty pumped on segachev. Written scouting report on him i read was pretty awesome. Better than chychruns report.

- SMBDragon


Really? The one on hockeydb is the opposite. Chychrun is the clear favorite among scouts as an all-around defender, best in class skating and hands. Fabbro was slated a defensive d-man, but his stats speak of someone with clear offensive ability (67pts in 47 games). I think it's Chychrun/juolevi or Sergachev where we are now (4th pick). Fabbro seem a consensus mid-rounder. I think were taking Matthews 1st
edit:eliteprospects.com not hockeydb
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Mar 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
I personally would shy away from a highly touted Russian, especially a defenseman. They are an enigma, and I wouldn't waste an early first round pick on one.

From all reports I've read, Bean and Fabbro have been moving up the prospect ranks this year, which is what you want to see if picking someone. I'm not a fan of taking guys falling (Shinkaruk, McCann, Ho Sang etc..), I'd rather have someone stepping up when they need to.

- Scooby_Doo[
/quote]

I'm just waiting for these draft orders to change after some random lights it up in the Memorial Cup.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Mar 21 @ 4:09 PM ET
Dont you mean pre-draft? His comment about Vancouver being good was made March 2015, and he was drafted in June 2015, no?

EDIT: I also wouldnt look much into his comments regardless, that was a bad goal for Vancouver to give up. I am sure if that was Boston or whomever the guy would've made the same poke for being really bad defensively on that play

- WhiteLie


You are right there. That particular comment was pre draft but he definitely has shown his interest for the Boston area sports franchises. Either way, I am not super worried, I am just hoping he doesn't pull a Schultz or soon-to-be Vessey and go elsewhere.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
You are right there. That particular comment was pre draft but he definitely has shown his interest for the Boston area sports franchises. Either way, I am not super worried, I am just hoping he doesn't pull a Schultz or soon-to-be Vessey and go elsewhere.
- Codes1087


Yeah its something thats starting to trend a bit more as better players have started coming out more consistently from the NCAA, definitely a growing fear to lose prospects. I think guys are also smarter, in that if they were planning to ditch their draft team they would be more quiet on the subject. I think he's just being a college kid having fun on social media with his friends not really realizing how some Vancouver fans may interpret his posts. At heart he's still young and he loves his hometown teams, soon he will realize he might be able to play in the league and focus more on his own future and lose all allegiances
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
This is just a feeling, but I think Matthews ends up in Vancouver. Matthews Boeser on our first line looks too good for it not to happen.

I'm feeling lucky.

- Scooby_Doo


Optimism. The foundation for major disappointment.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Optimism. The foundation for major disappointment and of any true Canucks fan.
- YeOldTimer

Fixed
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 21 @ 4:27 PM ET
Optimism. The foundation for major disappointment.
- YeOldTimer


Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Mar 21 @ 4:28 PM ET
I'd really prefer that it happens because the teams around them heat up rather than seeing the Canucks continue to flounder like they have over the last week.

That's two thumbs up Carol, I was feeling lonely, adrift at sea, with no one to assist or even care about me, I was even contemplating not posting again until September...and then this comment, that reassures me that you are also a bad canuck fan for not wanting the canucks to flounder... ahh to have some wind in my sails again

- Makita



Don't worry Makita, I'm on the raft desperately clinging to the faint r(h)ope of compete as I try to push Mr. Drafty in to the sea as the sharks circle in the blood clouded water below.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:33 PM ET
Will either be you guys or the Jets....anyone but the Oilers and Leafs
- RatedR80

Leafs will draft Chychrun or Tkachuk at #4
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
Leafs will draft Chychrun or Tkachuk at #4
- walshyleafsfan


Trade down? why not Matthews #1 or one of the finns? It's pretty improbable to lose all three lotto's.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Mar 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
Leafs will draft Chychrun or Tkachuk at #4
- walshyleafsfan


Are you sure that there isn't a smaller skilled forward they could find
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 4:35 PM ET

- Scooby_Doo


They should get Homer to do a "We are all Canucks" endorsement statement.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:36 PM ET

Are you sure that there isn't a smaller skilled forward they could find

- Pres.cup

Not at #4. May get DeBrincat with our 2nd 1st round pick
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
Trade down? why not Matthews #1 or one of the finns? It's pretty improbable to lose all three lotto's.
- neem55

48.5% chance of picking 4th. Trust me, Leafs will pick 4th
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Mar 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
48.5% chance of picking 4th. Trust me, Leafs will pick 4th
- walshyleafsfan


This is why I said coming last only sets you up for failure. You expect 1st overall pick, but it's still an 80% chance you don't get it.

Coming in at 27-29, you don't have expectations for the 1st overall, and when we win it, it's going to be the greatest celebration since our back to back Presidents Trophy days.
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