But they're shiny and new and bring so much hope for the immediate future,
- Makita

Yes I mean OMG McDavid came to town and we got....we got....-looks at standings- 28th!!! and well....um...well hey we have one more point then we had all of last year with anymore being icing #majorstepsforward

Its no coincidence you see the same teams in the hunt year in and out and why is that? for every reason you said....ok yes the Kings didnt make it last year but now they are primed to make a deep run this year...smart organizations will always find a way of getting it done
- RatedR80

and then theres the ones who cant go 1-2 rounds despite excellent seasons....
x's and o's coaches win in playoffs

Yes I mean OMG McDavid came to town and we got....we got....-looks at standings- 28th!!! and well....um...well hey we have one more point then we had all of last year with anymore being icing #majorstepsforward
- RatedR80

exactly.....

wow so there IS an oiler fan with sense in his head after all. And we thought it was all a myth ....

and then theres the ones who cant go 1-2 rounds despite excellent seasons....
x's and o's coaches win in playoffs
- SMBDragon

x's and o's only matter if you have the right talent to execute said x's and o's....some teams (the Blues) who can get in then not go far just do not have the riight players to get it done...then thats up to management to get the right pieces in place

exactly.....

wow so there IS an oiler fan with sense in his head after all. And we thought it was all a myth ....
- SMBDragon

There are a few of us who feel the same way.....we arent "tank nation" we are sick and tired of high draft picks and we are sick and tired of being at the bottom year in and year out....sick of being laughing stocks....until we can pull the trigger to get two top pairing RD then nothing will change

You are so wrong . Some key trade chips could be Bo JV McCann Edler Tanev Hansen Sedins Boeser. We have the chips but are Canucks willing to move any of them. Not willing to move some one is a whole lot different than no one to trade.

Remember LA traded Schenn and Johnsen to get Carter and Richards.
- VANTEL

What the hell would be the point of trading Bo, Jake, Boeser & McCann, that leaves you with little to no prospects in an already thin prospect pool and stalls your push from below. They're in the early stages of a rebuild with no number one center on the horizon.

LA traded 1st round picks with Schenn and Simmonds after they'd already drafted, Kopitar, Quick, Doughty, Brown, Lewis, Martinez, King, Voynov, Nolan, Clifford etc.

It's not even remotely the same situation.

x's and o's only matter if you have the right talent to execute said x's and o's....some teams (the Blues) who can get in then not go far just do not have the riight players to get it done...then thats up to management to get the right pieces in place
- RatedR80

I think youre referring to the role players. X's and o's since they are positional play are largely talent neutral

the reason the blues dont win is while hitchcock has his X's and o's its a fixed system he uses. for playoffs You have to adjust the x's and o's period to period game to game and he doesnt. Just sticks to the same and thus he gets picked apart by tweaker coaches over a 7 game series.

There are a few of us who feel the same way.....we arent "tank nation" we are sick and tired of high draft picks and we are sick and tired of being at the bottom year in and year out....sick of being laughing stocks....until we can pull the trigger to get two top pairing RD then nothing will change
- RatedR80

who do you trade from your team to make it happen?

who do you trade from your team to make it happen?
- SMBDragon

Nuge and Ebs would be the obvious choices...our first rounder...Hall (but that has to be a fantastic return) besides McDavid and Drai I would assume our GM would be open for buisness with anyone else

What the hell would be the point of trading Bo, Jake, Boeser & McCann, that leaves you with little to no prospects in an already thin prospect pool and stalls your push from below. They're in the early stages of a rebuild with no number one center on the horizon.

LA traded 1st round picks with Schenn and Simmonds after they'd already drafted, Kopitar, Quick, Doughty, Brown, Lewis, Martinez, King, Voynov, Nolan, Clifford etc.

It's not even remotely the same situation.
- LeftCoaster

I didn't say trade all of them , I said we had the pieces t make a trade if we wanted. It would need to be a big move with a huge return ex: Bo Tanev for Gudbrandson . A combination. I was thinking more on the lines of moving Hansen Tanev or Edler but for the right deal everyone would be available.

I think you will be in for a huge surprise next year when we don't finish bottom 10

I didn't say trade all of them , I said we had he pieces t make a trade if we wanted. It would need to be a big move with a huge return ex: Bo Tanev for Gudbrandson . A combination. I was thinking more on the lines of moving Hansen Tanev or Edler but for the right deal everyone would be available.

I think you will be in for a huge surprise next year when we don't finish bottom 10
- VANTEL

There's no quick fixes, just gotta continue to draft and develop. Bo & Tanev for Gudbranson is a huge huge overpayment for Gud.

I'd put money on the Canucks missing the playoffs for the next three years. They need to stockpile three more years of draft picks, and Bennings already indicated he's not trading youth at this point, it makes no sense to.

When an organization has an excess of talent at one position you make moves, the Nucks aren't there at all.

I didn't say trade all of them , I said we had the pieces t make a trade if we wanted. It would need to be a big move with a huge return ex: Bo Tanev for Gudbrandson . A combination. I was thinking more on the lines of moving Hansen Tanev or Edler but for the right deal everyone would be available.

I think you will be in for a huge surprise next year when we don't finish bottom 10
- VANTEL

I think Tanev is staying put which i dont mind cause hes a good defensive defenceman, but i agree edler, and hansen should be traded, even McCann if the deal is good

I think Tanev is staying put which i dont mind cause hes a good defensive defenceman, but i agree edler, and hansen should be traded, even McCann if the deal is good
- phyllee

If the Canucks were lucky enough to win the lotto and draft Matthews, then and only then would I see McCann getting moved.

Outside of the top three they draft a dman and you largely see the same team as you did this year.

Try too hard to find quick fixes and you become the Leafs of the past 40 years. When you move young pieces to try to speed things up you just create future holes.

If the Canucks were lucky enough to win the lotto and draft Matthews, then and only then would I see McCann getting moved.

Outside of the top three they draft a dman and you largely see the same team as you did this year.
- LeftCoaster

I'd still be surprised Lefty. Hank will be done in a couple of years and Sutter is a stop gap player. Matthews, Bo, and McCann would be your future up the middle.

I'd still be surprised Lefty. Hank will be done in a couple of years and Sutter is a stop gap player. Matthews, Bo, and McCann would be your future up the middle.
- golfingsince

Ya with the Sedins only having a couple of years left they really can't afford to let a talented kid like him go, but I did say that's the only scenario I see it happening, even then it's a stretch.

The team doesn't really know what it has with McCann, Virtanen, Boeser, Tryamkin, Demko & Horvat yet, I'm guessing it'll take more than the 300 game mark each to figure it out. Three more years at least.

Sutter is a fine player, but he's really a poor mans second line center.

There's no quick fixes, just gotta continue to draft and develop. Bo & Tanev for Gudbranson is a huge huge overpayment for Gud.

I'd put money on the Canucks missing the playoffs for the next three years. They need to stockpile three more years of draft picks, and Bennings already indicated he's not trading youth at this point, it makes no sense to.

When an organization has an excess of talent at one position you make moves, the Nucks aren't there at all.
- LeftCoaster

I will take that bet of Canucks making the playoffs next year, as ring in Erikkson to play with the twins.

If we draft a top 3 this year we will be getting a player like Eichel or Larkin. Ready to play next year.

I don't think Benning will be dumb enough to bring back Hamhuis , and if he is really smart he will trade Tanev and his low point production and 20 hits.

Bo right now is a third line centre. Very few flashy numbers even bordering on poor. I do like him and do think he will get a lot better but so far is average.

I do expect the Canucks to be very active this year. I expect the two slowest guys on the Team next year to be the twins

If the Canucks were lucky enough to win the lotto and draft Matthews, then and only then would I see McCann getting moved.

Outside of the top three they draft a dman and you largely see the same team as you did this year.
- LeftCoaster

I agree about how they draft

Try too hard to find quick fixes and you become the Leafs of the past 40 years. When you move young pieces to try to speed things up you just create future holes.
- golfingsince

This

I will take that bet of Canucks making the playoffs next year, as ring in Erikkson to play with the twins.

If we draft a top 3 this year we will be getting a player like Eichel or Larkin. Ready to play next year.

I don't think Benning will be dumb enough to bring back Hamhuis , and if he is really smart he will trade Tanev and his low point production and 20 hits.

Bo right now is a third line centre. Very few flashy numbers even bordering on poor. I do like him and do think he will get a lot better but so far is average.

I do expect the Canucks to be very active this year. I expect the two slowest guys on the Team next year to be the twins
- VANTEL

Its hard to say were they will be in the standings, injury train this year doesnt paint a picture for what could be next year, but i do agree i think the canucks will be active, but i could also see the oilers improving, same with Arizona

I will take that bet of Canucks making the playoffs next year.

If we draft a top 3 this year we will be getting a player like Eichel or Larkin. Ready to play next year.

I don't think Benning will be dumb enough to bring back Hamhuis , and if he is really smart he will trade Tanev and his low point production and 20 hits.

Bo right now is a third line centre. Very few flashy numbers even bordering on poor. P do like him and do think he will get a lot better but so far is average.

I do expect the Canucks to be very active this year. I expect the two slowest guys on the Team next year to be the twins
- VANTEL

The forward group is still so young. The defence really needs to be fixed and they need to stockpile more draft picks, even if they get a good pick it's not going to make a large difference to the forward group IMO.

Edler and Tanev aren't going anywhere, they're just too hard to replace, but you're right, I hope they're smart enough to let Hamhuis walk. Tanev is excellent at transitioning the puck to the forwards, yes he's soft and doesn't put up points but he's a good 3/4 dman.

I will take that bet of Canucks making the playoffs next year, as ring in Erikkson to play with the twins.

If we draft a top 3 this year we will be getting a player like Eichel or Larkin. Ready to play next year.

I don't think Benning will be dumb enough to bring back Hamhuis , and if he is really smart he will trade Tanev and his low point production and 20 hits.

Bo right now is a third line centre. Very few flashy numbers even bordering on poor. I do like him and do think he will get a lot better but so far is average.

I do expect the Canucks to be very active this year. I expect the two slowest guys on the Team next year to be the twins
- VANTEL

Aren't they now.

Aren't they now.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I had Hamhuis and Burrows there but they are close

Aren't they now.
- A_SteamingLombardi

As long as they continue to ride Henrik, at 36 years of age, as their number one center, he's going to continue to breakdown. The team needs some tremendous growth from the young players in the next two years.

If the Canucks were lucky enough to win the lotto and draft Matthews, then and only then would I see McCann getting moved.

Outside of the top three they draft a dman and you largely see the same team as you did this year.
- LeftCoaster

McCann needs to be put back in the oven, he's not done yet. No gm is going to give us anything for McCann, he's not ready. You don't go to the bakery and pay full price for a half baked loaf of bread.