I for one feel we are a lot further ahead than most give credit to. Two weeks ago we were in the hunt for a playoff spot with an injured line up.

We have a good supply of young players and we will get more this year. We have two very good prospects that should be ready in two years.

In the summer I would look at a trade of Edler or Tanev to upgrade. I would also go hard after a vet UFA Dman.

The only way we finish bottom 10 next year is if we tank again
- VANTEL

That's the problem with this point system ...it creates illusions

I think you only offer sheet when you know you have either the twins replacements ready or your D prospects like tree pedan etc are definitely top pair guys ...it's a fine line

I see an OS as a way to cheat the rebuilding process. You would inevitably have to over pay to ensure the team wouldnt match we gain an overpaid asset that is in 25-26 range which doesn't align with our future core. Potentially losing multiple top 10 picks would cripple the franchise. There are no quick fixes
- CanuckDon

There really is no quick fixes. Only way Chicago has managed to stay so good is that they are finding players in later rounds that are proving vital and then are sold off for more prospects and picks, those prospects are picks are then groomed and another cup is won and then sold off and the process starts all over again.

With all the losses and "lack of effort" that is happening with the call ups, IMO shows that Van are still years away from competing in the playoffs with any line up. Should have a few players under 22 in the line up and insult them with vets then after the vets are traded at the deadline for picks, call up some of the younger players.
- manvanfan

You can have a vet line up . I know Scooby hates this but I will show you it can be done with the right signings. Assuming we finish bottom 3

Sedin Sedin Sutter
JV Backes Hansen
Sven Bo Laine
Grenier Gaunce Brouwer

Dorsett Vey

Edler Demers
Hamhuis Tanev
Hutton Tryamkin

Sbisa Pedan Larsen

Markstrom
Miller


Three UFA pick ups

I would Try to move Tanev or Edler

With Vancouvers first pic in the 2017 draft at spot # 19 Canucks draft Joe Schlub
With their second pick at #49 they draft his brother Bill Schlub
- VANTEL

Oh boy

There really is no quick fixes. Only way Chicago has managed to stay so good is that they are finding players in later rounds that are proving vital and then are sold off for more prospects and picks, those prospects are picks are then groomed and another cup is won and then sold off and the process starts all over again.
- manvanfan

Cant argue with success and the Hawks have been very good at what they do....good drafting/development then fill in the gaps with UFAs and trades....same with the Red Wings too they have had a very good run over the past 30 years with multiple cup wins

You can have a vet line up . I know Scooby hates this but I will show you it can be done with the right signings. Assuming we finish bottom 3

Sedin Sedin Sutter
JV Backes Hansen
Sven Bo Laine
Grenier Gaunce Brouwer

Dorsett Vey

Edler Demers
Hamhuis Tanev
Hutton Tryamkin

Sbisa Pedan Larsen

Markstrom
Miller


Three UFA pick ups

I would Try to move Tanev or Edler
- VANTEL

I don't mind a Vet line up but that's pretty much a similar line up that is sucking pretty bad right now. Brouwer is not going to play 4th line. He's making 3.75 a season and has 30 points, more then half of our team. Hamhuis i'd say is one of the defensive problems right now. Gaunce is not a center, he's hasn't played center in almost 2 years now. Grenier is a RW and he is 24, after watching him. I can't see him having an NHL career.

I would move edler at the draft for a mid round first if we could. Only reason is because he is a bandaid now. hasn't played a full season in 5 years. Still a 35-40 points D if plays a full season. Reasonable contract.

Cant argue with success and the Hawks have been very good at what they do....good drafting/development then fill in the gaps with UFAs and trades....same with the Red Wings too they have had a very good run over the past 30 years with multiple cup wins
- RatedR80

Red wings have been remarkable at it. They are getting into the playoffs just barely the last couple of years. When Dat and Zet are gone, I can see them having some bad seasons. Wouldn't be good for detroit. Lots of empty seats at their home games.

I don't mind a Vet line up but that's pretty much a similar line up that is sucking pretty bad right now. Brouwer is not going to play 4th line. He's making 3.75 a season and has 30 points, more then half of our team. Hamhuis i'd say is one of the defensive problems right now. Gaunce is not a center, he's hasn't played center in almost 2 years now. Grenier is a RW and he is 24, after watching him. I can't see him having an NHL career.
- manvanfan

If every player was allowed a three game tryout only Sven would be a Comet for life.

The point is you can find vets serviceable players to sign , and cut back on the amount of kids playing

uh okay that's what I thought. You still have yet to show anything I've made up, so just get over it dude. You can carry on, being insulted about dumb hockey convos, attempting to troll. Feel free.
- Crazybagoham

Here's all your locker room fiction... please enlighten us on all this stuff coming out of the lockerroom?

Our Locker room is terrible because our leaders are gutless

You are pretending to know why Melanson may leave on top of your locker room fiction.

Melanson wants out... the main reason we had such great goaltending depth over the years... the things coming out of the locker these days dont seem worth the 3 extra spots in the draft in my opinion. Very odd team these days.

it's destroying the lockerroom, and ruining the confidence of the younger guys we are developing now

How is losing enough in the last couple of weeks to move down 3 spots going to "destroy" their development? Nonsense.

Is it really worth destroying the development of every other prospect in the system, just to upgrade 1 player? (moving from 6-3)

Doesn't matter where you draft.

No one said this so you don't have to "buy it"

So only 10 draft picks every year have a chance to be a good player? Dont buy it...

Here's where you call a large number of people here "morons" and then deny it. On top of that... no one is acting like there is no players after the top 3. You are being foolish. I'm not tank nation btw. Tank nation has been wanting to tank all season long. I just want a better pick now that the only victory left to gain this late in the season is better drafting position. You are so single minded you cant even have a rational discussion.

The way tanknation morons like yourself talk, there are no players after the top 3.

...and this

Cause all I see is just a bunch of fools, looking for a fight.

If you are flagging me for laughing at what you said, maybe the large group of "morons" and "fools" in here should flag you? That would be dozens... fair?

Anyways ill just flag and ignore, later gator.

You just finished talking about flagging me for laughing at your nonsense and then say this...

if y'all get insulted talking about arbitrary hockey topics, you should probably just leave

Keep denying you post like a the very child you are calling me and complaining about the replies. You must think you are Maxwell Smart or Inspector Gadget. Your posts don't self destruct after you enter them.

Red wings have been remarkable at it. They are getting into the playoffs just barely the last couple of years. When Dat and Zet are gone, I can see them having some bad seasons. Wouldn't be good for detroit. Lots of empty seats at their home games.
- manvanfan

I think when you have had as much success as that over the years you are entitled to a rebuild phase and knowing them it wont take that long.....there are lots of empty seats there....I wonder if thats because of poor economy or just fans being spoiled with winning hockey for decades and taking it for granted

If every player was allowed a three game tryout only Sven would be a Comet for life.

The point is you can find vey serviceable players to sign , and cut back on the amount of kids playing
- VANTEL

I think actually this year there are tons of serviceable players to sign.
Daniel Henrik Hansen
Baert Sutter Virtanen
Bo
Granlund Dorsett

That's about all who I think show they are ready. The rest should be filled out with Older players.
LW- Lucic, Versteeg, V. Stalberg(not at all)
RW - Eriksson, Brouwer, Wiese.

I think when you have had as much success as that over the years you are entitled to a rebuild phase and knowing them it wont take that long.....there are lots of empty seats there....I wonder if thats because of poor economy or just fans being spoiled with winning hockey for decades and taking it for granted
- RatedR80

I'd guess poor economy, they do love their hockey there and being an original 6.

I think when you have had as much success as that over the years you are entitled to a rebuild phase and knowing them it wont take that long.....there are lots of empty seats there....I wonder if thats because of poor economy or just fans being spoiled with winning hockey for decades and taking it for granted
- RatedR80

I think it's a combined case of the product not being very good at the moment and most paying fans are not invested in watching the painful development phase of the next generation. It's all quite common really.

The product would have been much better if we were not 2nd in the league for man games lost.

I think it's a combined case of the product not being very good at the moment and most paying fans are not invested in watching the painful development phase of the next generation. It's all quite common really.

The product would have been much better if we were not 2nd in the league for man games lost.
- boonerbuck

The product might not be as good as it has been but many were counting them out this year...this was supposed to be their step back yet here they are once again at the end of the year in a position to make the playoffs....then again maybe im just looking at this through the eyes of someone who hasnt seen this magical playoff thing for like a decade now

I'd guess poor economy, they do love their hockey there and being an original 6.
- manvanfan

Ill be curious to how many show up if they make the playoffs

I think actually this year there are tons of serviceable players to sign.
Daniel Henrik Hansen
Baert Sutter Virtanen
Bo
Granlund Dorsett

That's about all who I think show they are ready. The rest should be filled out with Older players.
LW- Lucic, Versteeg, V. Stalberg(not at all)
RW - Eriksson, Brouwer, Wiese.
- manvanfan

Im pretty sure we wont have 10 first year players playing in a game next year.

With Vancouvers first pic in the 2017 draft at spot # 19 Canucks draft Joe Schlub
With their second pick at #49 they draft his brother Bill Schlub
- VANTEL

Has Benning drafted the Schlub brothers? Draft picks have a lot more value now that Gillis is gone

I also loved how Hank and dank talked about personal effort. Daniel will miss 3 empty nets a game. Hank cant win a faceoff....Our Locker room is terrible because our leaders are gutless
- Crazybagoham

This comment is....bah.



I think his comment was about 'effort'.
Not performance.

The Sedin's records speak for themselves.
c'mon man...just...cmon.

Straight up if Benning does an offer sheet he is going to be blackballed like KLowe. Big mistake.

Losing is good for the soul. This franchise needed some humble pie and it tastes really good. Another 2-3 good drafts and this team should be in prime position for the 2020-21 season.
- Scooby_Doo

As I said earlier, I don't mind losing, it's how they're competing, or not competing, that's my issue. I know losing is part of building towards the future, I've been around a long time.

I think you said earlier Chicago had a couple good drafts and they were on their way, this is a complete fallacy! They drafted well years before Toews and Kane arrived, they don't win without Keith and Seabrook or the depth they drafted four to five years before Toews arrived.

It's going to take Benning seven years of good drafting to get the Canucks in a position to compete for a Stanley Cup again. Two in the books.

You can have a vet line up . I know Scooby hates this but I will show you it can be done with the right signings. Assuming we finish bottom 3

Sedin Sedin Sutter
JV Backes Hansen
Sven Bo Laine
Grenier Gaunce Brouwer

Dorsett Vey

Edler Demers
Hamhuis Tanev
Hutton Tryamkin

Sbisa Pedan Larsen

Markstrom
Miller


Three UFA pick ups

I would Try to move Tanev or Edler
- VANTEL

Would be a good signing, but why would he come here? He will probably go home to Minnesota

Straight up if Benning does an offer sheet he is going to be blackballed like KLowe. Big mistake.
- thundachunk

It really is a brutal idea especially when you are near the bottom of the standings. There is a reason they are so rare. Make a lot of enemy's among your peers and give up top 10 draft picks

The captains should actually point they're finger and say who they expect more effort from instead of beating around the bush about it . Sedins need to grow some balls and actually speak up

As I said earlier, I don't mind losing, it's how they're competing, or not competing, that's my issue. I know losing is part of building towards the future, I've been around a long time.

I think you said earlier Chicago had a couple good drafts and they were on their way, this is a complete fallacy! They drafted well years before Toews and Kane arrived, they don't win without Keith and Seabrook or the depth they drafted four to five years before Toews arrived.

It's going to take Benning seven years of good drafting to get the Canucks in a position to compete for a Stanley Cup again. Two in the books.
- LeftCoaster

So lets make it easy for him this year.

Ill be curious to how many show up if they make the playoffs
- RatedR80

Not all games were technically sold out the last two times the Canucks made the playoffs. People assume it's a first round exit and it's just not enough. Ownership has out priced themselves obviously based on fan expectations.

When I lived in the LM still, a limo, the game, the #5, the bottle out the back door at 3am with a couple of dancing guests and the same limo waiting was pretty expensive for one night. I still did it even though the team wasnt making the playoffs. The game was just one part of the party.... and quite a few times I was tossed before the game was over anyways.