so the entire D sucks including a olympic gold medalist from 2014? Um no.
so the entire D seems to make the same errors and seems out of position? No again.
we cycled through MANY more players already than coaches.

youd have to hit the huge suck lottery for that to happen

its a flawed system they play in. Thats a coaches domain. Very simple
- SMBDragon

I'm not for resigning him, even at a discount. He will still have handcuff power. Off to ANA or TO.

so the entire D sucks including a olympic gold medalist from 2014? Um no.
so the entire D seems to make the same errors and seems out of position? No again.
we cycled through MANY more players already than coaches.

youd have to hit the huge suck lottery for that to happen

its a flawed system they play in. Thats a coaches domain. Very simple
add that the extreme suck immediately hit with the new bench bosses coming in.
- SMBDragon

The top 3 hasn't changed Edler, Hamhuis, & Tanev, 6 years and counting.

The top 3 hasn't changed Edler, Hamhuis, & Tanev, 6 years and counting.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Assets which can be moved, if the right opportunity presents itself.

Assets which can be moved, if the right opportunity presents itself.
- VanHockeyGuy

no no....burke drafted pronger when he was GM in hartford. He later traded him away to st louis where he quickly became a star under keenan (who traded for him)
- SMBDragon

Ah you are right sorry my bad.

The top 3 hasn't changed Edler, Hamhuis, & Tanev, 6 years and counting.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That's ok what the lack in their horrid point production , they make up with by injecting the fear of God with their bone crushing hits and their toughness.

Assets which can be moved, if the right opportunity presents itself.
- VanHockeyGuy

Hell yeah

That's ok what the lack in their horrid point production , they make up with by injecting the fear of God with their bone crushing hits and their toughness.
- VANTEL

so the entire D sucks including a olympic gold medalist from 2014? Um no.
so the entire D seems to make the same errors and seems out of position? No again.
we cycled through MANY more players already than coaches.

youd have to hit the huge suck lottery for that to happen

its a flawed system they play in. Thats a coaches domain. Very simple
add that the extreme suck immediately hit with the new bench bosses coming in.
- SMBDragon

Wasn't Hamhuis there just to fill water bottles? How much dod he actually play in meaningful games?

Wasn't Hamhuis there just to fill water bottles? How much dod he actually play in meaningful games?
- LordHumungous

Ease up man.
He was selected.
Just like goalies that don't play, it still speaks volumes if he was selected to join that squad.


#Hammerdefender

The top 3 hasn't changed Edler, Hamhuis, & Tanev, 6 years and counting.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Pedan & Tryamkin will hopefully fill that lightweight dilemma in front of the net. Hutton needs help with someone to distribute the puck and run the power play.

Wasn't Hamhuis there just to fill water bottles? How much dod he actually play in meaningful games?
- LordHumungous

After the season is over say Adios!

That's ok what the lack in their horrid point production , they make up with by injecting the fear of God with their bone crushing hits and their toughness.
- VANTEL

Edler is actually 32nd over the past five seasons regarding points for NHL defencemen, just saying. His production isn't an issue, the fact he's the teams number one dman is the issue.

http://www.quanthockey.co...ons-defensemen-stats.html

The top 3 hasn't changed Edler, Hamhuis, & Tanev, 6 years and counting.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Edler is actually 32nd over the past five seasons regarding points for NHL defencemen, just saying. His production isn't an issue, the fact he's the teams number one dman is the issue.

http://www.quanthockey.co...ons-defensemen-stats.html
- LeftCoaster

20th in just goals.

Edler is actually 32nd over the past five seasons regarding points for NHL defencemen, just saying. His production isn't an issue, the fact he's the teams number one dman is the issue.

http://www.quanthockey.co...ons-defensemen-stats.html
- LeftCoaster

yup.
We're back to that ol chestnut that we don't have a legit #1 D.

1D-Edler
2D-Tanev
Hammer-Hutton
Tram

It;s so simple!

Edler is actually 32nd over the past five seasons regarding points for NHL defencemen, just saying. His production isn't an issue, the fact he's the teams number one dman is the issue.

http://www.quanthockey.co...ons-defensemen-stats.html
- LeftCoaster

How about the last two years?

How about the last two years?
- VANTEL

How about just under Torts.

How about the last two years?
- VANTEL

59th....the link is right there

yup.
We're back to that ol chestnut that we don't have a legit #1 D.

1D-Edler
2D-Tanev
Hammer-Hutton
Tram

It;s so simple!
- dbot

Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

We have one of the worst Ds in the league

59th....the link is right there
- LeftCoaster

I am not against Edler. I am against an Edler Tanev Hamhuis combo

Shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.

We have one of the worst Ds in the league
- VANTEL

This is not shuffling deck chairs...it was a joke, suggesting that it was easy to find 2 top 4 D's.
The problem is that our Dmen are miscast in roles above their skill level. That's not to say they don't have use, or couldn't find success elsewhere.
If we could add a true 1D and another top 4 D, it would allow the Hamhuis, Hutton's and Tanev's more room to flourish.

I am not against Edler. I am against an Edler Tanev Hamhuis combo
- VANTEL

The numbers suggest he's a good 3/4 guy miscast as a 1/2 guy.

The numbers suggest he's a good 3/4 guy miscast as a 1/2 guy.
- LeftCoaster

preach.

The numbers suggest he's a good 3/4 guy miscast as a 1/2 guy.
- LeftCoaster

No doubt . That is why I specifally say the D needs an upgrade.