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fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:23 PM ET
This Larsen kid sure can hit the net.




What could he do with the Sedins?

- A_SteamingLombardi



He looks identical to Karlsson. Norris Trophy candidate .
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:24 PM ET
We need a top pairing defenseman. Chychrun is the most likely to be a top line defender. He can shoot the puck.
- CanuckDon

Sergachev is a 6'3 LHD that can do everything Chychrun can do. Only thing he is Russian
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
Sergachev is a 6'3 LHD that can do everything Chychrun can do. Only thing he is Russian
- VANTEL


Sergachev and Trymankin. My pants get tingly.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
Sergachev and Trymankin. My pants get tingly.
- fiveandagame



Penicillin?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 5:33 PM ET
I think he is smarter than Tanev and Edler I am sure if he was asked what he would bring to a deserted island it would be 10 naked ladies and not Grandmas sandwiches.

I don't expect him to be a number one Dman. He is not overly big ,overly strong , no bullet shot. He is a 23 year old fifth round pick that is out performin all the other D.

He doesn't need to improve , the others do.

- VANTEL


Come on now, doesn't need to improve? He's not exactly killing it on the defensive side of things. I get being excited about our best young d-man, but lets not take it there. He's only outperforming in terms of offense, his position is defense.
fiveandagame
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 05.06.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:35 PM ET
Penicillin?
- VANTEL



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:35 PM ET
Come on now, doesn't need to improve? He's not exactly killing it on the defensive side of things. I get being excited about our best young d-man, but lets not take it there. He's only outperforming in terms of offense, his position is defense.
- neem55



He is doing so bad they punished him by giving top line minutes ?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:40 PM ET
He is doing so bad they punished him by giving top line minutes ?
- VANTEL


No, but as you correctly pointed out others need to improve. He is the best of a bad bunch right now. I think he needs to improve in a few areas and be more consistent overall, otherwise he will be a frustrating player to watch. Guys that have his level of skill and talent are expected to get to a certain level of reliability; I expect him to pan out into a solid top 4 and PP specialist, though he could surprise for better or for worse it is still early
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 5:41 PM ET
He is doing so bad they punished him by giving top line minutes ?
- VANTEL


he's being rewarded, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have room for improvement. Is it a reward when Tanev/Edler are out? Certainly looked like a player that was out of his depth last night IMO
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 5:43 PM ET
Sergachev is a 6'3 LHD that can do everything Chychrun can do. Only thing he is Russian
- VANTEL


I don't think he has the skating or hands as chychrun, and niether does any scouting report I've read.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:48 PM ET
No, but as you correctly pointed out others need to improve. He is the best of a bad bunch right now. I think he needs to improve in a few areas and be more consistent overall, otherwise he will be a frustrating player to watch. Guys that have his level of skill and talent are expected to get to a certain level of reliability; I expect him to pan out into a solid top 4 and PP specialist, though he could surprise for better or for worse it is still early
- WhiteLie

I don't know how to say this any clearer. He is a young kid, practically making league minimum who should be on a third pairing if things were done normally. It is his first year and should not be matched against other teams best players. That is why you pay players like Edler Tanev Hamhuis and Sbisa the big money they are being paid. It is not Huttons fault if the coach and GM don't think they are capable of doing what the first year player is doing. We had the same problem last year and the bottom pairs got blamed again.

It is time to point the fingers where they rightfully should be pointed.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 5:49 PM ET
Sergechev http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=312213
Chychrun http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=243386
Juolevi http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=196391


Chychrun>Sergechev>Juolevi for me at this point.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:50 PM ET
he's being rewarded, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have room for improvement. Is it a reward when Tanev/Edler are out? Certainly looked like a player that was out of his depth last night IMO
- neem55


In case you didn't notice the whole team sucked last night. Not only Hutton. Thus the bag skate today.

You can't judge a rookie by one game. He played great against Nashville and the game before.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:50 PM ET
I don't know how to say this any clearer. He is a young kid, practically making league minimum who should be on a third pairing if things were done normally. It is his first year and should not be matched against other teams best players. That is why you pay players like Edler Tanev Hamhuis and Sbisa the big money they are being paid. It is not Huttons fault if the coach and GM don't think they are capable of doing what the first year player is doing. We had the same problem last year and the bottom pairs got blamed again.

It is time to point the fingers where they rightfully should be pointed.

- VANTEL


I agree with what youre saying, I just thought you had made a comment saying he doesnt need to improve and that hes already capable of top pairing. I would disagree with that portion, he is easily top 4 on this team next year (barring some crazy slump) but he can improve a lot and I hope he does. Even if he just remains as is and becomes more consistent, that would do wonders on a nightly basis
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 5:52 PM ET
I agree with what youre saying, I just thought you had made a comment saying he doesnt need to improve and that hes already capable of top pairing. I would disagree with that portion, he is easily top 4 on this team next year (barring some crazy slump) but he can improve a lot and I hope he does. Even if he just remains as is and becomes more consistent, that would do wonders on a nightly basis
- WhiteLie


this is where I'm at with him too, hope he pans out and I guess am just slightly pessimistic but really hope he proves me wrong
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 5:53 PM ET
In case you didn't notice the whole team sucked last night. Not only Hutton. Thus the bag skate today.

You can't judge a rookie by one game. He played great against Nashville and the game before.

- VANTEL


My judgement isn't based on last night, I'm simply saying he didn't look good last night which is pretty fair and I think accurate that he played like poop considering the amount pf shots/goals/zone possesion while he was on the ice 5/5
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:56 PM ET
I agree with what youre saying, I just thought you had made a comment saying he doesnt need to improve and that hes already capable of top pairing. I would disagree with that portion, he is easily top 4 on this team next year (barring some crazy slump) but he can improve a lot and I hope he does. Even if he just remains as is and becomes more consistent, that would do wonders on a nightly basis
- WhiteLie


I did say he didn't need to improve. He is doing fine and will improve with natural progression. It will all come with experience.

I never said he should be top pairing . I said he is not that big, tough , nor does he have a bullet shot. No one should expect this 5 round draft pick to be a number 1 D .

we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Mar 15 @ 5:59 PM ET
Sergechev http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=312213
Chychrun http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=243386
Juolevi http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=196391


Chychrun>Sergechev>Juolevi for me at this point.

- neem55

We're either going to get a top 3 pick or a good defensive prospect. Not a bad problem to have.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 6:02 PM ET
My judgement isn't based on last night, I'm simply saying he didn't look good last night which is pretty fair and I think accurate that he played like poop considering the amount pf shots/goals/zone possesion while he was on the ice 5/5
- neem55



First year kid , league minimum scape goat top minutes



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yogAp9PTWLM
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 6:03 PM ET
We're either going to get a top 3 pick or a good defensive prospect. Not a bad problem to have.
- we_are_all_canucks

Love it. We need scoring touch and D, so I think wherever we end up were going to get one or the other with that pick and maybe the second rounder too if JB works his magic. I think having the same problem next year might be a good idea too, but I understand why others might not think so.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Mar 15 @ 6:08 PM ET
First year kid , league minimum scape goat top minutes



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yogAp9PTWLM

- VANTEL


He played 4th in minutes. He's not being thrust into top-2, 3-4 and is over his head. He did play well against Nashville, but that was one game in how many since Edler has gone out has he played that well? It's not just him, I'm not saying he's a Weber or something and we need to can him. I just think implying that he doesn't need to improve and that he will succeed in top-4 next year, when he is not this year is not right. Offensively he's been really good, I like him on the pp for sure he is creative. Defensively I'm not quite as optimistic, I hope you're right and he does really well top-4 next year but that's just not what I see based on his season.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 15 @ 6:13 PM ET
BHutts mobility n ability to skate the puck out separates him from the pack.
I luv his poise n he can only get better. As for scoring I see him as a PP QB settng up a point shot or moving up on the rush. He also could work on going to the weak side for 1 timers.

Being a converted F his speed is a nice asset n he can rush the puck pretty well.
His upside is looking good but i wish he had a cannon.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 15 @ 6:19 PM ET
BHutts mobility n ability to skate the puck out separates him from the pack.
I luv his poise n he can only get better. As for scoring I see him as a PP QB settng up a point shot or moving up on the rush. He also could work on going to the weak side for 1 timers.

Being a converted F his speed is a nice asset n he can rush the puck pretty well.
His upside is looking good but i wish he had a cannon.

- Nighthawk

We have Edler and Tanev as the Cannon
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 6:27 PM ET
We have Edler and Tanev as the Cannon
- VANTEL

It's a good thing that winky face is there...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Mar 15 @ 6:30 PM ET
We have Edler and Tanev as the Cannon
- VANTEL


Edler's cannon needs to fire more often 😂😂
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