He had a fine first 30 games. He is showing he needs time in the AHL in the last 30. He is still. Kid . He stepped up.
- VANTEL

I doubt blame him Willie sits him too much, must make him rusty.

I doubt blame him Willie sits him too much, must make him rusty.
- pker2theend

They have him on a training schedule. One day in the weight room, one day rest , one day hockey. Something like that.

He is a kid he will be fine

He had a fine first 30 games. He is showing he needs time in the AHL in the last 30. He is still. Kid . He stepped up.
- VANTEL

I agree, it probably would have been best for them to send McCann to juniors (I'm one of the people that wanted virtanen sent down, and to keep McCann up it's funny how a whole season can really show a players weakness.

I'm hoping McCann comes out big and strong for next training camp, and once agains gives them no other choice but to leave him up. I used to think he was better off on the wing, but you see guys like Burns/kopitar just throw him off the boards so he definitely needs some strength and conditioning coaching. Same boat as Bennett was a year ago.

I doubt blame him Willie sits him too much, must make him rusty.
- pker2theend

That's the furthest from the truth. his scratches have usually been justified/scheduled, usually outworked by Cracknell/vey. Plus the whole league knows this guy is flimsy, he was targeted a lot before christmas. They said from the start of the year he was going to be hitting the gym a lot.

Dude…get a grip…


- LordHumungous

Hal Gill too good????

yeah, not enough to claim that either are a franchise player, let alone laine.
- Crazybagoham

Actually Mathews is and has been called a franchise player. Would have been number 2 if he'd been born 4 days early.
Not a generational player... maybe that's what you where trying to say?

And Laine has been projected to be a top end elite winger.

Actually Mathews is and has been called a franchise player. Would have been number 2 if he'd been born 4 days early.
Not a generational player... maybe that's what you where trying to say?

And Laine has been projected to be a top end elite winger.
- Pres.cup

They are both almost guaranteed first line players...Matthews will likely be a franchise center...I think they are being highly underrated by some posters. They aren't the type of prospects that the Canucks can consider moving

I did as well, Chicago has pretty much proved the model that has worked: 2 pairings of top 6 wingers (including a guy that is a stud at faceoffs) a pairing of d men with chemistry and a goalie, flames just need the goalie.

Our imaginary 7 man imo:

Baertschi-horvat
Virtanen-Granlund

Hutton-tryamkin

Markstrom

meh not too bad I suppose
- Crazybagoham

Wow and I thought what I was smoking last night was good.


Also, why do you have a center in each forward pairing when they should be wingers?

As an outsider I have to agree with you ...not to say they arent pieces that will help but you need a boeser to turn out and Mathews or laine then things get interesting
- Redmile247

What do the flames have? Seriously, gaudreau isn't anything special, never will be. Monahan is Horvat, Bennett is McCann. You guys have (frank) all and you come in here on this high horse. Where are your (frank)ing goalies? Ortio and Ramo? Lmao.

Hamilton is overpaid. Giordano had one good year. Brodie isn't anything special. (frank), you guys are worse than us this year, that's a (frank)ing accomplishment. Congrats, your team is pooptier than our rebuilding team that is supposebdly way behind your poopty rebuild.

Don't get me going on your ass hat coach. (frank) that guy. Fire him before he ruins everyone.

hahaha no, it's okay, hopefully this year's draft will make that look a bit better. was trying to mke the point of how poor it would look, but it could be worse I suppose should have probably put down Demko though, was going with young guys with some established chemistry
- Crazybagoham

Sorry, couldn't help myself.





Sorry just thinking about all the "chemistry" that Hutton has
with Nikita-Trama-Tryamkin (That's his Russian nickname, we
get to call him Trauma )

I'm okay with the Sedins being our 2nd/3rd line down the road if we have a legitimate top line (most fans would agree), that would be a potent offense. Especially if they both took match 3m AAV deals.
- Crazybagoham

Not trying to pick on you but....

I disagree, We should move the Sedins to the second or third line whether or not we have a legitimate top line.
I like putting my legitimate(Sedins are still both top 90 players in the NHL with a bullet) top liners on my 2nd and 3rd lines

Yup I know Vantel is saying the Twins will be extended. History is made.

I think top players have a shelf life of 5-7 years that they dominate, so in three years ANA Kings Hawks OV and Stamkos will be secondary players. Jäger is a freak. The teams in 3 to four years should be us Flames Oilers Leafs Sabres ( IMO) .

I think in 3 or four years Danny and Hank can still produce but I sure hope they are not on the same line. I really like the new look PP , I don't want the twins on the PP 75-90 seconds cycling.

Develop the kids under Sedins guidance.
- VANTEL

I think the twins are the best thing that has happened to this franchise, (and I'm sure you agree) and being the consummate professionals they are, they'll continue to serve our team until they're unserviceable..they'll go down as the best pro sports players van has ever seen. From a coaching stand point, I'd like to see them kept together as a line but split on the pp and each work the wall and feed the kids/take responsibility and admit they've slowed as a unit and can better serve apart, feeding our young "snipers", and get these kids some stats and offence, not having to create but just post up and try and pick a corner. The pp without hank recently has looked hungry..and as excited as I am to get a >5 overall drafted player, I think getting the kids we already have here penciled for our 1/2 line centres and wingers accustomed to scoring nhl goals(rip shinkaruk -- side note, seems obvious that benning would trade him out considering his history of drafting character guys and the fact shin slid like 15 draft spots on draft day, his attitude being the catalyst for the slide )

I will admit I am pretty young and new to the nuances of running a nhl franchise, but after the gillis years of saying phuck it to the future and using all possible trade chips to build a contender, it's refreshing to see a brain trust in that's all in on building a draft-develop team, with emphasis on strong character and good team play. We've had 7 or 8 kids come in as rookies, and while not burning the league down like a mcdavid or panarin, been forced to focus on basics and not just their natural talents but playing a rounded nhl game.

Although I'm sure tanner could have done better.

Side note- I'm always following the team and league, but Been based out of Singapore for work for a couple years/ your guys' analysis is spot on compared to a lot of pundits, so thank you all - even the most in hinged of you- for keeping me interested

Not trying to pick on you but....

I disagree, We should move the Sedins to the second or third line whether or not we have a legitimate top line.
I like putting my legitimate(Sedins are still both top 90 players in the NHL with a bullet) top liners on my 2nd and 3rd lines
- Pres.cup

Kind of straying g from my last post, but as sick as it is the Sedins have been playing on the same line together since they were 7, as far as the future health of the organization, I think putting them on different lines surrounded by the kids will be the ultimate show of gratitude towards Van on their part in the long run (not that their millions donated to local charities is going un noticed)..

As fun as it would be to watch the team tank for a couple years in hopes we can draft enough high end players to win a cup before they're qualified for rfa sratus, once a team has made the playoffs they have a chance to win. We beat the Hawks before, let's just put burrows in Utica for a couple years and when we need to slay the dragon again call him up! Hell st 4.5 it's not like anyone's gonna grab him of waivers ..and as useless as he's been the last bit....he did pot that goal that got us past those fahking Hawks ..a bo led team with Sedins playing 1-3 centre and wings..boeser on the top line eith...uhh..stankos? (--side note do we trade McCain out when Steven obviously signs here forc~6 mill this year ((hometown discout, his aunt lives in white rock.--or make him change his number? I jo early like McCann decision to take 92..)

quick aside--sorry for the novel, just no one to talk hockey with over here.,

Something else I never saw afraid here is the fact that there isn't any chance Dallas and Vancouver make any hockey deals together. First off, I saw ppl thinking a package around hamhuis could land us nichuckin(sp.)...first off, just no, second as much as we'd like to think owners wouldn't stand in the way of hockey trades, they have way too much of their own pride wrapped up In it. Theres no way any Dallas deal ever existed for hamhuis other than to waste time and ensure no one else swooped..but no chance aqualini and gaglsrdi make a trade unless one is the precived winner

To say the canucks defence was shiite for so long is lazy. The nux had a great defence with bieksa, hamhuis, salo, edler, plus Rome, year before it was Mitchell instead of hammer. That was a solid to four for a number of years....

What do the flames have? Seriously, gaudreau isn't anything special, never will be. Monahan is Horvat, Bennett is McCann. You guys have (frank) all and you come in here on this high horse. Where are your (frank)ing goalies? Ortio and Ramo? Lmao.

Hamilton is overpaid. Giordano had one good year. Brodie isn't anything special. (frank), you guys are worse than us this year, that's a (frank)ing accomplishment. Congrats, your team is pooptier than our rebuilding team that is supposebdly way behind your poopty rebuild.

Don't get me going on your ass hat coach. (frank) that guy. Fire him before he ruins everyone.
- Scooby_Doo

Seriously, that's the most sense I've seen from one of your posts. Good on you mate.

That's the furthest from the truth. his scratches have usually been justified/scheduled, usually outworked by Cracknell/vey. Plus the whole league knows this guy is flimsy, he was targeted a lot before christmas. They said from the start of the year he was going to be hitting the gym a lot.
- Crazybagoham

100% correct. Great comment.

What do the flames have? Seriously, gaudreau isn't anything special, never will be. Monahan is Horvat, Bennett is McCann. You guys have (frank) all and you come in here on this high horse. Where are your (frank)ing goalies? Ortio and Ramo? Lmao.

Hamilton is overpaid. Giordano had one good year. Brodie isn't anything special. (frank), you guys are worse than us this year, that's a (frank)ing accomplishment. Congrats, your team is pooptier than our rebuilding team that is supposebdly way behind your poopty rebuild.

Don't get me going on your ass hat coach. (frank) that guy. Fire him before he ruins everyone.
- Scooby_Doo

Interesting choice of number 1 defenceman. Why is Edler not on the list ? He's better McDonagh and Muzzin right now. In my distorted opinion of course.
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- Pres.cup

okay dude....

Kind of straying g from my last post, but as sick as it is the Sedins have been playing on the same line together since they were 7, as far as the future health of the organization, I think putting them on different lines surrounded by the kids will be the ultimate show of gratitude towards Van on their part in the long run (not that their millions donated to local charities is going un noticed)..

As fun as it would be to watch the team tank for a couple years in hopes we can draft enough high end players to win a cup before they're qualified for rfa sratus, once a team has made the playoffs they have a chance to win. We beat the Hawks before, let's just put burrows in Utica for a couple years and when we need to slay the dragon again call him up! Hell st 4.5 it's not like anyone's gonna grab him of waivers ..and as useless as he's been the last bit....he did pot that goal that got us past those fahking Hawks ..a bo led team with Sedins playing 1-3 centre and wings..boeser on the top line eith...uhh..stankos? (--side note do we trade McCain out when Steven obviously signs here forc~6 mill this year ((hometown discout, his aunt lives in white rock.--or make him change his number? I jo early like McCann decision to take 92..)

quick aside--sorry for the novel, just no one to talk hockey with over here.,

Something else I never saw afraid here is the fact that there isn't any chance Dallas and Vancouver make any hockey deals together. First off, I saw ppl thinking a package around hamhuis could land us nichuckin(sp.)...first off, just no, second as much as we'd like to think owners wouldn't stand in the way of hockey trades, they have way too much of their own pride wrapped up In it. Theres no way any Dallas deal ever existed for hamhuis other than to waste time and ensure no one else swooped..but no chance aqualini and gaglsrdi make a trade unless one is the precived winner
- Danny.Torrance

That's a good idea, I like that, make Daniel our top LW, then move Hank down to 2c and let Sutter/Horvat battle with Hansen/Virtanen for that 1c/RW spot. Dank has looked just fine without Hank.

Actually Mathews is and has been called a franchise player. Would have been number 2 if he'd been born 4 days early.
Not a generational player... maybe that's what you where trying to say?

And Laine has been projected to be a top end elite winger.
- Pres.cup

I'm trying to say he's never watched them play.... so those are just labels and dont mean jack. You can call a guy "generational;" or "franchise" if you want but this isnt nhl 16, and sometimes a kid is a bust no matter where he is projected, if you havent scouted him yourself, you're just speaking out of your ass. IMO a weeklong WJC (which, other than the stat sheet, is the only excuse people are wanting to draft the fins in the top 3 in instead of Chyrchun/tkachuk) isnt enough to label a forward as a "franchise guy". I'm well aware Auston matthews is 1oa.... maybe read pages 2-8? Catch yourself up.... because clearly you dont read previous posts.

All I gotta say is Chychrun
Sign Kris russell

De looks ok then

Tanev Edler Hutton Russell Chychrun Tryamkin Sbisa

I'm trying to say he's never watched them play.... so those are just labels and dont mean jack. You can call a guy "generational;" or "franchise" if you want but this isnt nhl 16, and sometimes a kid is a bust, if you havent scouted him yourself, you're just speaking out of your ass. IMO a weeklong WJC isnt enough to label a forward as a "franchise guy". I'm well aware Auston matthews is 1oa.... maybe read pages 2-8? Catch yourself up.... because clearly you dont read.
- Crazybagoham

You are the reigning expert on all things hockey. Who needs Bob Mckenzie when we have you.

All I gotta say is Chychrun
Sign Kris russell

De looks ok then

Tanev Edler Hutton Russell Chychrun Tryamkin Sbisa
- The_Kuze

big fat no on Russell, I dont believe a guy that chooses to block that many shots is that good a defender.

You are the reigning expert on all things hockey. Who needs Bob Mckenzie when we have you.
- Marwood

nope, I just tend to offer facts to back up what I say, Instead of just talking out of my ass like you and your sad troll friends :p

That's a good idea, I like that, make Daniel our top LW, then move Hank down to 2c and let Sutter/Horvat battle with Hansen/Virtanen for that 1c/RW spot. Dank has looked just fine without Hank.
- Crazybagoham

The power play has looked a lot better as well. A lot better movement. I think when the twins are together they almost look for each other a bit too much.

Next year or the year after I think you'll have to seriously consider splitting them. not only to spread the offense around, but I don't think you cannot afford to have two guys as slow as the sedins on the same line just for defensive purposes. You can see how much their lack of speed is a liability is on 3 on 3.

I really hope Canucks management can surround the Sedins with enough talent to give them at least one more shot. Winning the lottery would be a god send, having 15mil next year for cap space should help and having Miller, Burrows, Higgins (another 13mil) coming off the following year gives them a lot of flexability to turn this team around pretty quick