Tryamkin "I don't know why people day I play like Chara, I want to be better than him"

Interesting choice of number 1 defenceman. Why is Edler not on the list ? He's better McDonagh and Muzzin right now. In my distorted opinion of course.
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- Pres.cup

Looking at it again, I wouldn't keep Johnson in there and I listed 31...... it was a quick list and I assume you are trolling for Bullfrog but I'm sure there is lots of legit replacements to that list but I doubt many are top 10 picks.

Thanks Carol,

Good Blog.

I hope Benning drafts D but I'm still not convinced that the top 10 is the best spot to pick D. I like McCann and think he was a fantastic pick, I also felt the same way about Shinkaruk but at the time as still now I wish we had taken a D in those spots.

Currently few "Elite" D end up being taken that early. I'm basing this off my personal top 30 D in the league, obviously this it biased but I remember doing the same with Centres and many more come from the top 10.

There are some young players (Nurse, Jones, Reilly, Lindholm etc) and were drafted in the top 10 who might take over those spots but I still think there is many outside of my top 30 who also are not high draft picks ( Hjarlmanson, Brodie, Boychuk, Barrie etc) who still rank above those kids.

Bolded are top 10 picks and I'm sure I forgot some.

Johnson
OEL
Suter
Doughty
Ekblad
Pietrangelo
Hedman

Fowler
Weber
Keith
Josi
McDonagh
Chara
Carlson
Karlsson
Byfuglien
Stralman
Kronwal
Burns
Vlassic
Giordano
Shattenkirk
Letang
Subban
Markov
Muzzin
Seabrooke
Klingberg
Faulk
Hamonic
- belcherbd

I am on board with buyers remorse on some of our forwards we selected, but what stops me is that there arent many forward coming (prior to JB's drafts) that could be project as good offensive players. Even Bo was a solid two-way and I think so far his scoring ability is exceeding expectations. The other reason I dont regret the path is I have had very little faith before this regime in defensive development. The best Canuck defensemen in the last 20 years or so were never really considered elite. Even the likes of Bryan Allen, Ohlund, and Brad Ference, who all were high draft picks amounted to little. The best home grown defensemen have been late round picks and could really be considered luck. Now that the team has its own farm team and system, I have better faith in the organization to turn a prospect into an NHL player

Tryamkin "I don't know why people day I play like Chara, I want to be better than him"
- Codes1087

I think they'll get him to drop 10-15 lbs. then see if that speeds up his feet, maybe his feet are just to big to speed up and he's a stay at home guy with good reach and a heavy shot.

I am on board with buyers remorse on some of our forwards we selected, but what stops me is that there arent many forward coming (prior to JB's drafts) that could be project as good offensive players. Even Bo was a solid two-way and I think so far his scoring ability is exceeding expectations. The other reason I dont regret the path is I have had very little faith before this regime in defensive development. The best Canuck defensemen in the last 20 years or so were never really considered elite. Even the likes of Bryan Allen, Ohlund, and Brad Ference, who all were high draft picks amounted to little. The best home grown defensemen have been late round picks and could really be considered luck. Now that the team has its own farm team and system, I have better faith in the organization to turn a prospect into an NHL player
- WhiteLie

I still don't think we have any high end scorers in the system outside of Boeser. Hodgson was and we know how that turned out.

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but are you saying Ohlund amounted to little? I agree not a elite D but still very damn good.

My point more is that D are so much harder to predict, taking one in the first 10 isn't worth it when forwards are easier to project.

- Pres.cup

kool aid spiked?

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but are you saying Ohlund amounted to little? I agree not a elite D but still very damn good.

My point more is that D are so much harder to predict, taking one in the first 10 isn't worth it when forwards are easier to project.
- belcherbd

That's why the drafting age should be 19.

kool aid spiked?
- LordHumungous

Tryamkin's urine sample.

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but are you saying Ohlund amounted to little? I agree not a elite D but still very damn good.

My point more is that D are so much harder to predict, taking one in the first 10 isn't worth it when forwards are easier to project.
- belcherbd

No I didnt really mean to lump him with the other two in terms of overall performance, but he was a high draft pick that was never considered elite. Very solid top 4, but not elite.

And yes thats where I was heading with my comment. Hindsight I want to have some remorse and say they should have picked Theodore over Shink, but when you look at their track record, the safe play was to go for the forward and it pans out more often than not

That's why the drafting age should be 19.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I have no issue with that, especially if in conjunction the rules are changed to allow drafted 19 yr olds to play in the AHL.

Juniors get their players longer, kids get the opportunity to play pro if they are ready and NHL teams get more time to assess talent.

It's looking like JB will draft either Chyrchun or Sergachev, depending on where they fall, unless they land in the top 3. I dont think many people can complain about that.

It's looking like JB will draft either Chyrchun or Sergachev, depending on where they fall, unless they land in the top 3. I dont think many people can complain about that.
- Crazybagoham

They can. And they will

I have no issue with that, especially if in conjunction the rules are changed to allow drafted 19 yr olds to play in the AHL.

Juniors get their players longer, kids get the opportunity to play pro if they are ready and NHL teams get more time to assess talent.
- belcherbd

Yeah

I still don't think we have any high end scorers in the system outside of Boeser. Hodgson was and we know how that turned out.

Maybe I'm reading that wrong but are you saying Ohlund amounted to little? I agree not a elite D but still very damn good.

My point more is that D are so much harder to predict, taking one in the first 10 isn't worth it when forwards are easier to project.
- belcherbd[/quote]

more risk more reward, this is the only way to get one of those Franchise defensemen.

They can. And they will
- WhiteLie

well I wont both are going to be solid

Looking at it again, I wouldn't keep Johnson in there and I listed 31...... it was a quick list and I assume you are trolling for Bullfrog but I'm sure there is lots of legit replacements to that list but I doubt many are top 10 picks.
- belcherbd

I'd even go so far as to say that there are only 10 number 1 defencemen in the league but that's semantics. Good list for a quick one, you're right about
Johnson< Edler/Tanev/Hamhuis

Lets call it top 2 defencemen, not many are top 5 or 10 picks.

I think if you narrowed it down to top undisputed defencemen there would again only be ten or so of them total. You could probably make a list and many would/could be top 10/5 picks.

Ima try off of the top of my head to list the top 10 since 2005(because that is the time frame referenced) without looking up stats. These are the elite of the time, can anyone tell me where they are drafted?

Doughty
Keith
Chara
Weber
Pronger
Niedermier
Lidstrom
Karlson
Sutter
Pietrangelo
Edler

They can. And they will
- WhiteLie

Right, because which ever one we pick will be the wrong one. There is no satisfying some Canuck fans.

kool aid spiked?
- LordHumungous

Stirring the pot....

I'd even go so far as to say that there are only 10 number 1 defencemen in the league but that's semantics. Good list for a quick one, you're right about
Johnson< Edler/Tanev/Hamhuis

Lets call it top 2 defencemen, not many are top 5 or 10 picks.

I think if you narrowed it down to top undisputed defencemen there would again only be ten or so of them total. You could probably make a list and many would/could be top 10/5 picks.

Ima try off of the top of my head to list the top 10 since 2005(because that is the time frame referenced) without looking up stats. These are the elite of the time, can anyone tell me where they are drafted?

Doughty
Keith
Chara
Weber
Pronger
Niedermier
Lidstrom
Karlson
Sutter
Pietrangelo
Edler
- Pres.cup

Edler doesn't belong on that list.

Tryamkin's urine sample.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I have no issue with that, especially if in conjunction the rules are changed to allow drafted 19 yr olds to play in the AHL.

Juniors get their players longer, kids get the opportunity to play pro if they are ready and NHL teams get more time to assess talent.
- belcherbd

I dont think that would go well, it would create a very big logjam of players and stunt the overall development of players in North America in my opinion. I really do wish that leagues over here would emulate Europe and allow teenagers to play [minor] pro if they are good enough. I havent watched a CHL game in ages because its always a few top end players mixed with a bunch of developing ones, the span of player quality is too great and they should find a way to get these top prospects into better leagues when they are good enough

I'd even go so far as to say that there are only 10 number 1 defencemen in the league but that's semantics. Good list for a quick one, you're right about
Johnson< Edler/Tanev/Hamhuis

Lets call it top 2 defencemen, not many are top 5 or 10 picks.

I think if you narrowed it down to top undisputed defencemen there would again only be ten or so of them total. You could probably make a list and many would/could be top 10/5 picks.

Ima try off of the top of my head to list the top 10 since 2005(because that is the time frame referenced) without looking up stats. These are the elite of the time, can anyone tell me where they are drafted?

Doughty
Keith
Chara
Weber
Pronger
Niedermier
Lidstrom
Karlson
Sutter
Pietrangelo
Edler
- Pres.cup

you could argue though, with hindsight most teams would regret not picking up a lot of these guys earlier on(Karlsson comes to mind, I think he went like #15? Doughty is a top 3 I think). This goes to show you that defensemen are incredibly underrated in these drafts. So better to use our top 10 pick for the best d man we can get.

Edler doesn't belong on that list.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Shhhh.... you'll ruin the surprise!

you could argue though, with hindsight most teams would regret not picking up a lot of these guys earlier on(Karlsson comes to mind, I think he went like #15? Doughty is a top 3 I think). This goes to show you that defensemen are incredibly underrated in these drafts. So better to use our top 10 pick for the best d man we can get.
- Crazybagoham

Not necessarily, I am sure in some of these drafts there were other defensemen taken ahead of some of the guys listed. So while hindsight says we shoudlve taken Karlsson, he was the 7th defenseman taken in that draft. Teams tried to get best defense available and missed with the likes of Teubert, and to some extent Bogosian and Schenn (both good, just not nearly in the same category as Karlsson). So its still risky to just say Sergachev is the best one from the draft so we should get him as high as we can, its just really hard to tell