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Vrbastard  - VANTEL
Working on his next contract ....in Russia |
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neem55
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He has 5 more goals then last year  - Redmile247
Wow that's nice, good that you pick the one improved stat. How's his Corsi? Do you think he's in the Norris conversation, because he was last year because everything he pushed towards the net went in. Let's be honest. He's a good defenseman (maybe even very good), but he's not elite. Brodie may be elite if he continues to improve though. |
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Location: Flagged and Ignored, CA Joined: 11.29.2006
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Working on his next contract ....in Russia - Redmile247
We've already determined he's going to TO next year and they will somehow get decent value for him at the TDL |
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Working on his next contract ....in Russia - Redmile247
Has made enough money. He will retire. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Granlund quietly putting together another solid game, he looks good. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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In my dream....
Take it with a grain of salt
Dank Hank Sutter
Laine Stamkos Martin
Sven Bo Jv
Etem Granlund Hansen
Dorsett JM
Edler/Lindholm
Hutton/Try
Sbisa/Larsen
Pedan
Gaunce 1st call ups
The moons n stars will all align in one magical moment on April 16th
Lindholm gets jerked by the Ducks.
JB inks M Martin n Stamkos says I'll come over now.
Who's got the next round 🍻 - Nighthawk
why are we wasting salary on matt martin?
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atta boy sbisa, love that heavy shot |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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This is exactly the point and why I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Want to argue he had it tougher? - Absolutely. Want to say his offensive development improved slightly or greatly? Sure...a case could be made. Did I and everyone expect him to struggle? You'd be a fool not to.
But defensively he's done about AS BAD AS YOU CAN DO with the transition...like you couldn't do worse in the league. You hope he'll do well, but maybe expect he'll be in the worst 2/3rd of the league. But not the bottom 95% and thats what the fancy and regular defensive stats are saying. We didn't sign this kid undrafted...we traded Cory Schneider for him.
+/-, corsi, fenwick, Goals Against per 60 minutes, goals against when leading by a goal, tied, trailing by one - worst on the Canucks, and usually in the bottom 95% of the league. He's been on the ice for 79 goals this year. Canucks have given up 188. It's been bad.
Look, I have faith that he'll get much better. But as far as his year has gone, it's been...wait for it... - Ronning4ever
But it hasn't, experience gained is never a disaster, this will serve him well going forward....my glass is half full. |
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This is true! Their D is highly overrated, before the start of the year many had them as a top-5 D-core
Brodie is very good though, very surprised Gio has played almost every game (has come back down to earth in terms of stats though). - neem55
Giordano/Hamilton are so overrated |
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But it hasn't, experience gained is never a disaster, this will serve him well going forward....my glass is half full. - LeftCoaster
In philosophy they call that unfalsifyability...there is no way that his season could ever be bad/disastrous by that definition. And fair enough...this is a message board and I'm no GM, so who cares...but I get the impression, people hadn't dug into to actually see how Bo has been doing.
I'll be honest, I wasn't sure if it was him or Vrbata that was to blame...until I looked at the stats.
And the announcers just said that they've talked to Burrows and he's definitely gone next season.  I kinda hoped they'd keep him on until his contract was done. |
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Giordano/Hamilton are so overrated - Crazybagoham
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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In philosophy they call that unfalsifyability...there is no way that his season could ever be bad/disastrous by that definition. And fair enough...this is a message board and I'm no GM, so who cares...but I get the impression, people hadn't dug into to actually see how Bo has been doing.
I'll be honest, I wasn't sure if it was him or Vrbata that was to blame...until I looked at the stats.
And the announcers just said that they've talked to Burrows and he's definitely gone next season. I kinda hoped they'd keep him on until his contract was done. - Ronning4ever
Please don't use philosophy jargon on a hockey message board, unfalsifiability is a double negative and not used in any philosophy paper I've read in 8 years of university. His season only looks bad when you fail to acknowledge the irrelevance of +/- as a stat. Do you believe the world if flat? I'm guessing not, that's the kind of knowledge that gets left behind when you realize it's useless and incorrect (and so is +/-).
Horvat is playing against the number 1 line yet again tonight, as he does every night. When you look at the shot differentials and account for the quality of competition he faces night after night, his stats are not that bad.
Why on earth would we want Burrows back? You poop on Bo and then say something like that?! |
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Wow that's nice, good that you pick the one improved stat. How's his Corsi? Do you think he's in the Norris conversation, because he was last year because everything he pushed towards the net went in. Let's be honest. He's a good defenseman (maybe even very good), but he's not elite. Brodie may be elite if he continues to improve though. - neem55
Your right he's a bum |
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Flames win - VANTEL
Lose Brodie and Bennett to injuries tho |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Giordano/Hamilton are so overrated - Crazybagoham
On the defensive side of the puck, I'd have to agree. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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In philosophy they call that unfalsifyability...there is no way that his season could ever be bad/disastrous by that definition. And fair enough...this is a message board and I'm no GM, so who cares...but I get the impression, people hadn't dug into to actually see how Bo has been doing.
I'll be honest, I wasn't sure if it was him or Vrbata that was to blame...until I looked at the stats.
And the announcers just said that they've talked to Burrows and he's definitely gone next season. I kinda hoped they'd keep him on until his contract was done. - Ronning4ever
If he was 25 to 30+ years of age I'd whole-heartedly agree with, but he's not. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Your right he's a bum  - Redmile247
You can continue to dismiss my comments (I'm guessing you don't want to look at his corsi or Fenwick, TBH I don't blame cause they are not good), but I said good (maybe very good) but not elite. |
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neem55
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Flames win - VANTEL
Queue the third period collapse! |
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vancity787
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: My Parents Basement, BC Joined: 07.14.2008
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I dont have a chance to even remotely be relative in this hockey pool if nobody trades me a damn goalie
Hutch dont play anymore, My rookie is buried in the minors and Elliot is on IR.
Some one please make me an offer not involving Eichal. I've helped you all out as it is.
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SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: ALDY , BC Joined: 02.24.2012
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I dont have a chance to even remotely be relative in this hockey pool if nobody trades me a damn goalie
Hutch dont play anymore, My rookie is buried in the minors and Elliot is on IR.
Some one please make me an offer not involving Eichal. I've helped you all out as it is.
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trade deadline passed.....gonna have to wait for an injury or pick up NA goalies |
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You can continue to dismiss my comments (I'm guessing you don't want to look at his corsi or Fenwick, TBH I don't blame cause they are not good), but I said good (maybe very good) but not elite. - neem55
I will never just look at a players corsi or fenwick to decide how I rate them ...I will watch them play and see how they contribute ... But go ahead and play around with your fancy stats to tell you who is good |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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I dont have a chance to even remotely be relative in this hockey pool if nobody trades me a damn goalie
Hutch dont play anymore, My rookie is buried in the minors and Elliot is on IR.
Some one please make me an offer not involving Eichal. I've helped you all out as it is. - vancity787
The pool is dead in a month....I don't think there's much interest to continue next year? |
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