Any interest in a top pairing D like Marincin?

Now that Hunwick is gone for the season, Marincin will finally take his proper place.

Signed for two more years...good third liner and can play solid with the twins, on the second line and cheap. Plays a good bread and butter game. If the team does OK next year (which doesn't look that difficult) he'd be a great piece to have for another year. If it's even worse next year than this, I'd agree with you...and he'd probably want out anyways.
- Ronning4ever

If we aren't making a run next year, I don't see much point in keeping him around if there is any sort of demand for him that can help the rebuild- bring in some help on defense...

u just know with the logjam JB will be trading.
offseason n draft will be interesting
- Nighthawk

I think the Sutter trade is a key example of Benning's master plan.

- Throw out all the old stuff.
- Buy a whole bunch of new stuff on sale.
- Identify the stuff that will be good enough to keep for the next 5-7 years.
- Trade any of the surplus newer stuff for better quality stuff.

Instead of signing UFA's and trading them for draft picks, he's building up the quantity of roster-caliber players available to be traded for even better quality assets in the near future.

I wouldn't get too attached to guys like Vey, Granlund, Etem, Larsen, Trymakin, Pedan, McCann, Shinkaruk, Boeser, Thatcher, etc. Unless they're able to demonstrate that they will almost certainly be top level players within 3-5 years, they'll likely be bundled up and shipped out for an expiring RFA who's more proven and appears to have more potential.

The Pittsburgh market probably thought they were getting a great deal for Sutter by picking up a cheaper comparable center, offensive D-man plus a better draft pick. But Benning got the only asset you could see being involved in a cup run 5 years from now.

They are a pretty negative bunch over there. Always looking for fault.
- VANTEL

The negativity is a bit much. JB is doing a bad job putting together the team, WD is doing a bad job with what he has to work with.

Gee if the team is that bad, might want to cut WD some slack.

They want the full blown tank, and that isn't happening, so there is nothing positive to write. Even if we went full tank, they would be unhappy with something/everything.

I don't believe they are very objective.

I mentioned that Sutter is a 2c.
To flesh that out a bit.... He had a great start to the year, played well with Sedins on top line, showed good wheels SBD hands
But really, he's a 2c on this years team, not a surefire.
He is better than Bonito and a better fit that Bo at this point
- dbot

2C or 3C or 4C won't really matter much in the near future.

Boston won the cup without a real superstar forward on their roster. They were a more balanced squad and I'd expect Benning plans to do something similar with the Canucks. More well-rounded players with decent size and speed so they can match up with almost every opponent and play any system necessary.

Also easier to manage from a cap perspective. One forty goal scorer is going to get paid more than 2 younger twenty goal scorers combined. You lose one of the 20G guys you can manage. You lose the 40G guy and you're screwed.

Really good read here from CanucksArmy on the top 5 NCAA free agents and who we should go after, including Boeser's linemate at UND, and Chris Tanev's brother.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...at-the-canucks-may-target
- Codes1087

says in there that Carolina signed Andrew Poturalski so that is why they pulled the hensick - Jones deal.

This season...
A brutal schedule the 1st half of the season.
Cannot win at home.
Injuries.
No offense from the D.
Soft.
A pile of Kids playing.
Faster n younger.

All in all we r where we should be.


Next season...
Logjam on D.
Offseason trades.
Draft.
UFA's out n prolly in
Cap space.
Overhauled D.

All in all a fresh start with the kids 1yr older n more prepared.

Questions galore n speculating even more.

Actually it was Hutton that took their jobs.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Bartkowski actually. Hutton's lined up at left D all year. But yeah, Hutton took the roster spot that was labelled 'new guy with potential".

Bartkowski actually. Hutton's lined up at left D all year. But yeah, Hutton took the roster spot that was labelled 'new guy with potential".
- YeOldTimer

Yeah, I couldn't understand why folks flipped out about Corrado going on waivers for Hutton. Would have been nice to have kept both, but Hutton has been a gem of a find, our best rookie IMHO and we've had a bunch.

The negativity is a bit much. JB is doing a bad job putting together the team, WD is doing a bad job with what he has to work with.

Gee if the team is that bad, might want to cut WD some slack.

They want the full blown tank, and that isn't happening, so there is nothing positive to write. Even if we went full tank, they would be unhappy with something/everything.

I don't believe they are very objective.
- hillbillydeluxe

I really, really, really, liked this analysis (even though I didn't agree with everything in it). I thought it was pretty thorough and gave some angles I hadn't thought of.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...rt-3-2014-draft-revisited

I agree Tryamkin is a bust , bring back Weber
- VANTEL

If Trymakin (or Larsen, or Pedan) shows as much potential as Hutton, he'll stick. If he doesn't make that same impact, then I simply predict he won't be in the organization very long. Benning apepars to be a lot quicker at pulling the chute than past Canucks GM's. Seems like he's working on a shorter timeline than the folks in that city where all the TV channels come from.

2C or 3C or 4C won't really matter much in the near future.

Boston won the cup without a real superstar forward on their roster. They were a more balanced squad and I'd expect Benning plans to do something similar with the Canucks. More well-rounded players with decent size and speed so they can match up with almost every opponent and play any system necessary.

Also easier to manage from a cap perspective. One forty goal scorer is going to get paid more than 2 younger twenty goal scorers combined. You lose one of the 20G guys you can manage. You lose the 40G guy and you're screwed.
- YeOldTimer

I disagree. Bergeron doesn't get much respect in many circles but he Toews and Datsyuk are a unique breed of which only Barkov and maybe couturier are able to be out of the next generation of players. which is: a shut-down center who can produce 60+ points. Bergeron is a superstar.

Yeah, I couldn't understand why folks flipped out about Corrado going on waivers for Hutton. Would have been nice to have kept both, but Hutton has been a gem of a find, our best rookie IMHO and we've had a bunch.
- Ronning4ever

He looks really, really good. Hopefully this year isn't a fluke and he just keeps getting better and better. Would be fantastic if they found his right-handed twin over the summer.

1) Brandon Sutter has had 40 points (exactly 40, only one time)

2) Unless you exclude defensemen, it is simply an incorrect statement.
- neem55

That's why it says "OVER"

CBJ👍

That's why it says "OVER"
- classic321

right well, that's one out of two and let's be honest there are a lot of big contracts doing a lot less than Sutter. He's been solid for us, unlucky with injury but his career numbers doesn't point to a injury-prone player. Think he's a shut-down guy, undervalued by most but JB knows

Unrelated

Hats off to the best hockey writer I know - Happy International Women's Day, Carol.

I really, really, really, liked this analysis (even though I didn't agree with everything in it). I thought it was pretty thorough and gave some angles I hadn't thought of.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...rt-3-2014-draft-revisited
- Ronning4ever

Moneypuck guy wrote it and he isn't there anymore.

I was just reading this,

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ting-fired#comment-837587

I found it very amateurish to the point of trolling.

Unrelated

Hats off to the best hockey writer I know - Happy International Women's Day, Carol.
- Ronning4ever

I disagree. Bergeron doesn't get much respect in many circles but he Toews and Datsyuk are a unique breed of which only Barkov and maybe couturier are able to be out of the next generation of players. which is: a shut-down center who can produce 60+ points. Bergeron is a superstar.
- neem55

Not to get to caught up in who's a superstar and who's not, but ....

Toews gets $10.5MM per on his new deal.
Datsyuk is nearly at then end of his contract making $7.5MM per.
Bergeron is making a paltry $6.8MM for the next several years.
He even makes less than what's his name and his brother who play here.

Point is he's not one of the league's truly elite when it comes to paycheques and I don't think he was when they won the cup. I suspect the Canucks are more likely to go that route rather than chasing Stamkos around in a Brinks truck.

That's why it says "OVER"
- classic321

Hansen never scored 40 . Bust

Moneypuck guy wrote it and he isn't there anymore.

I was just reading this,

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ting-fired#comment-837587

I found it very amateurish to the point of trolling.
- hillbillydeluxe

I also read this but didn't share the link

You are giving this PetBugs twit more hits

Not to get to caught up in who's a superstar and who's not, but ....

Toews gets $10.5MM per on his new deal.
Datsyuk is nearly at then end of his contract making $7.5MM per.
Bergeron is making a paltry $6.8MM for the next several years.
He even makes less than what's his name and his brother who play here.

Point is he's not one of the league's truly elite when it comes to paycheques and I don't think he was when they won the cup. I suspect the Canucks are more likely to go that route rather than chasing Stamkos around in a Brinks truck.
- YeOldTimer

duncan kieth makes 5 mil, is he not among the leagues elite? With all due respect, he is among the leagues elite shut-down centers (that's simply fact not opinion) paycheques don't actually determine that. He's won 3 selke's (including the last two) something only Gainey, Carbinnou, Datsyuk and Lethinen have done. Fairly elite company I'd say.

Hansen is a good third liner . He is having a career year and his value will never be higher. After next year he will be 30 years old and want a big raise. Let's not make the same stupid mistake we did with Vrbata and wait too late to try and sell.
- VANTEL

Hansen is great value for a 3rd liner.
Everyone knows he's having a career year.
Other GMs are aware of his career totals and that this year is an anomaly, we aren't going to trick anyone by looking at this year's stats alone.

I'd be happy to move him and happy to keep him. I like your idea of packaging him as i think that would allow us to extract some real value.

Moneypuck guy wrote it and he isn't there anymore.

I was just reading this,

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ting-fired#comment-837587

I found it very amateurish to the point of trolling.
- hillbillydeluxe

Hmmmm. I don't know if I agree...I basically think that Canucks Army is just loaded with stats guys. They have value, but there's a flip side to their analysis and more to managing a team than numbers. I think the Kassian and Lack trades are good examples...bad on paper, but I think are good long term in terms of lockeroom issues. Also not sure I understand the Cap stuff...team seems fine to me in terms of space and being able to sign players...