Hoffman needs to play more
- Ottawa Fan

Delusional people won't comprehend this.

Zibanejad. What a terrible hockey player.

The guy simply can't stickhandle. Watch him the next game. When he gets the puck, he is physically incapable of stickhandling and skating at the same time. Every time he has to make a play, he coasts.

What an embarrassing hockey game that was. I can't believe he is our #1 center right now. I also can't believe he was on the ice over Pageau with the goalie pulled.....especially after the St. Louis game.

Pageau is 10× the hockey player Zibby is. And 10× tougher too.

We better (frank)ing trade that bum this summer before every other team realizes how much of a liability he is.

Chiasson and Zibby on the same line tonight. What a tire fire that was.

Delusional people won't comprehend this.
- TheCalSen

I wrote that because I knew someone would respond like that.

Zibanejad. What a terrible hockey player.

The guy simply can't stickhandle. Watch him the next game. When he gets the puck, he is physically incapable of stickhandling and skating at the same time. Every time he has to make a play, he coasts.

What an embarrassing hockey game that was. I can't believe he is our #1 center right now. I also can't believe he was on the ice over Pageau with the goalie pulled.....especially after the St. Louis game.

Pageau is 10× the hockey player Zibby is. And 10× tougher too.

We better (frank)ing trade that bum this summer before every other team realizes how much of a liability he is.

Chiasson and Zibby on the same line tonight. What a tire fire that was.
- Charliebox

But that Chiasson tries so hard! If we had a team of Chiasson's and Borowiecki's... A coach's dream!!!!

Side note: team plays a lot better defensively with Hammond in net, as others have mentioned. Only 25 shots against

Zibanejad. What a terrible hockey player.

The guy simply can't stickhandle. Watch him the next game. When he gets the puck, he is physically incapable of stickhandling and skating at the same time. Every time he has to make a play, he coasts
- Charliebox

Zibanejad - looks like he just woke up from a nap and starting skating around like a hunch back

Ryan - great shot and underrated passer - when he actually decides to use it - otherwise he is too slow for a $7.25m , looks like a monkey is on his back or a ghost just comes by and trips him

Stone - playing awesome again, just wish he had the finish to make him a 80 pt player

Pageau - put his heart in every player on the team and you're in the cup finals

MacArthur & Turris - eating eggrolls in the pressbox

Melynk & Murray - talking about how to maximize $ and ice a decent enough team fans don't complain about being sold on the future every year

Phanuef - Shrek isn't that bad, liked the emotion in toronto - if I left that poop show I'd be crying everyday like I won the lottery too

Karlsson - wondering why the heck do I have to play on this lineup

Alfredsson - realizing how cheap Melynk is in the pressbox. Alfie has to buy his own food

Agreed with the comments regarding Rogers Hockey Night in Canada. It was just hours of crap comedy Saturday night. They are doing nothing right from top to bottom. More needs to be written about it to get something to change. It was bad last year, but this year it's embarrassing.

Get some blogs written about the garbage. Get some higher profile reporters/broadcasters tweeting its garbage. Boycott watching the garbage. The more is done, the more likely something might change. But then again, hard to take down Rogers.

Smiles with a goal!

Update: nevermind
- Ottawa Fan

Yep and Hoffmans fault it was disallowed. Poor Hoffman getting a bad time of it at the moment.

Yep and Hoffmans fault it was disallowed. Poor Hoffman getting a bad time of it at the moment.
- kratosmr

Actually if Neil had NHL speed...

Ryan 3G 1A last 14 games......

coming in hot bobby......

Ryan 3G 1A last 14 games......

coming in hot bobby......
- AlfieisKing

hahahaha

Personally I think we have some great players with a to of talent. But lets face it, not a single player other then Karlsson is living up to expectations this year. Doesn't mean they can't, but it means we need to get the team back on track next year.

Ryan 3G 1A last 14 games......

coming in hot bobby......
- AlfieisKing

He makes $6.5 million this year

Hoffman makes $2 mill

I know I'm repeating what everyone knows, but it's time for Ryan to get benched

I was at the game last night and made a few observations.
Stone's hockey IQ is off the charts. Even when not playing the part of the NHL's top thief he is reading ahead of the play disrupting breakouts and eliminating passing lanes.
Zibbys is deathly afraid of contact. His physical attributes allow him to get to great positions on the ice but he whiffs if he feels contact coming.
Pageau is easily the hardest worker but to be fair that's not tough to be on the Senators.
Zack Smith is a far better winger than centerman, keep him there, work with him and he's blue chip.
Bobby Ryan....Can't Spell Intensity. Burke is often a blowhard but in this case not wrong. The right message was sent to the fans by signing him but there is no way the trainers even have to dry out his equipment.
Hoffman vs Cameron, it's REAL.. Lastly, ownership: If you put a mediocre product on the ice and then gouge the fans at the concessions, you can't afford to keep the team. Melnyk needs to give the fans better, more transparent, deeper pocketed ownership.

Thing is we have no idea what his attitude is like. No one is immune to being given a kick up the backside. I'm not a fan of Cameron's line juggling and some of his more head scratching decisions. But he is privy to things that we will not be, same goes for any coach in any sport.I am also not convinced him and Murray are on the same page. I don't buy the saving money argument either but if that does turn out to be case then everyone in that organisation needs to take a serious look at themselves.
- kratosmr

I'm glad someone is finally looking at this from a pragmatic perspective. We don't know what Hoffs attitude is like. I'm more critical and I would argue it's both of them. Cameron is clueless on how to motivate him and he's not receptive of the message Cameron is trying to send. I just don't get this unrelenting support for Hoff. This guy is unproven. Two fairly good seasons doesn't make this guys a stud, a lot of his value is still in his projections. I just hate when people throw all their chips in on what someone could be. The Sens are notorious for betting the farm on the coulda, woulda, shoulda scenario. I get that these athletes are paid the big bucks but I think it's horrible when coaching staff and management are held hostage by players with bad attitudes who oust others just so they can be kept happy. Hoff have been given ample room to prove himself and he's just not cashing in on those opportunities. Has anyone stopped to think that maybe he's just a flash in the pan and not a clinch player? IMO real professionals find a way to play through and out of their funk, Hoff is just floundering in his slump and doesn't seem to have the fight in him to battle through. While I don't agree that making an example out of him will help his situation at the same time if he's not helping out on the ice then why have him on there at all. I just get the sense that Cameron knows more of what's going on and made a decision. Players come and go, but finding the best fit is rare and Hoff may not fit in the overall plan. I'd rather take a guy like Smith who bleeds for this team and puts the effort in than a guy like Hoff who only contributes when things are going his way. We don't need premadonnas on the team.


Now on the note of the CBC announcers being all over the Leafs like 70's rock band groopies, I was (in my mind) leading the twitter attack. It was just awful stuff, they were tripping over themselves to praise the Leafs in all their mediocrity while at the same time carving the Sens for some of their troubling stats. I just don't get how a National Sports broadcaster could have been so bias in the most pathetic way. Did they know that it was really the Marley's who were on the ice and why the Leafs were calling up their farm team to play? I just don't get it. Sure the Nylander goal was nice and good for him for getting his first NHL goal but they talked about it for the rest of the period and rolled excessive and gratuitous replays of an average goal. I guess you have to get excited for stuff like that when they really have nothing else to be happy about. I actually turned off the sound so I wouldn't punch a hole in my TV. For a team that lives in the basement, Leaf fans are fervent and highly devoted albeit delusional.

Agreed with the comments regarding Rogers Hockey Night in Canada. It was just hours of crap comedy Saturday night. They are doing nothing right from top to bottom. More needs to be written about it to get something to change. It was bad last year, but this year it's embarrassing.

Get some blogs written about the garbage. Get some higher profile reporters/broadcasters tweeting its garbage. Boycott watching the garbage. The more is done, the more likely something might change. But then again, hard to take down Rogers.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

It was the most disgusting show of fan bias in announcers I've ever seen. The Leafs players could have all scored on their own goal and the announcers would have praised their skill shots and sportsmanship in spotting the other team a few goals. The color commentary was shocking, carving up the Sens for a terrible PK and PP while avoiding Toronto's LEAGUE WORST WINs. It's like they pretended that the Leaf's record was somehow amazingly untouchable. It's untouchable alright, like a leper.

I don't know how this will change, I get that CBC Sports is posted out of Toronto but come on, you're professionals here right? Call the game as is, pull up some interesting stats and try not to let your blue and white show so much. I don't know if that was better or worse than hearing Bob Cole stammer on about nothing and calling the play with a 30 second delay cause he can't follow the speed anymore.

Just Shocking!!

I'm glad someone is finally looking at this from a pragmatic perspective. We don't know what Hoffs attitude is like. I'm more critical and I would argue it's both of them. Cameron is clueless on how to motivate him and he's not receptive of the message Cameron is trying to send. I just don't get this unrelenting support for Hoff. This guy is unproven. Two fairly good seasons doesn't make this guys a stud, a lot of his value is still in his projections. I just hate when people throw all their chips in on what someone could be. The Sens are notorious for betting the farm on the coulda, woulda, shoulda scenario. I get that these athletes are paid the big bucks but I think it's horrible when coaching staff and management are held hostage by players with bad attitudes who oust others just so they can be kept happy. Hoff have been given ample room to prove himself and he's just not cashing in on those opportunities. Has anyone stopped to think that maybe he's just a flash in the pan and not a clinch player? IMO real professionals find a way to play through and out of their funk, Hoff is just floundering in his slump and doesn't seem to have the fight in him to battle through. While I don't agree that making an example out of him will help his situation at the same time if he's not helping out on the ice then why have him on there at all. I just get the sense that Cameron knows more of what's going on and made a decision. Players come and go, but finding the best fit is rare and Hoff may not fit in the overall plan. I'd rather take a guy like Smith who bleeds for this team and puts the effort in than a guy like Hoff who only contributes when things are going his way. We don't need premadonnas on the team.


Now on the note of the CBC announcers being all over the Leafs like 70's rock band groopies, I was (in my mind) leading the twitter attack. It was just awful stuff, they were tripping over themselves to praise the Leafs in all their mediocrity while at the same time carving the Sens for some of their troubling stats. I just don't get how a National Sports broadcaster could have been so bias in the most pathetic way. Did they know that it was really the Marley's who were on the ice and why the Leafs were calling up their farm team to play? I just don't get it. Sure the Nylander goal was nice and good for him for getting his first NHL goal but they talked about it for the rest of the period and rolled excessive and gratuitous replays of an average goal. I guess you have to get excited for stuff like that when they really have nothing else to be happy about. I actually turned off the sound so I wouldn't punch a hole in my TV. For a team that lives in the basement, Leaf fans are fervent and highly devoted albeit delusional.
- Sens.sational

I would disagree. other then myself and a few others. a ton of people on here seemingly have a hate for Hoffman for no reason. Even when his scoring was one of the top 10 in the league, people were saying he was useless and to trade him and weren't giving him the credit he deserves. He may be on a slump but he is still our top scorer. He's had chemistry with Ryan and yet they split them up right when they were playing their best.

I doubt his attitude is perfect and i don't blame him. I would be frustrated too. Last year the team said "prove it" and this year he came out scoring like crazy, really rounded out defensively and just his over all game has improved, everything was going great and he was on pace to get the contract that he proved himself for.

Then random line changes happened, injuries and reduced ice time and power play time for no reason, his production dropped (along with the entire team) and everyone seems to be blaming him.

I'm not saying he is perfect but people need to cut him some slack. He is our only depth on LW and deserves a commitment from management because he is our 1LW and our top scorer and if we don't then he can basically go anywhere, i'm sure he will have offers.

Personally I would much rather be proactive and positive and say why not sign him long term, and go out and try to get a legit #1C for him to work with and a #2LW to play behind him.

Imagine a top line of Hoffman - Duchene - Ryan. With the amount of speed and scoring power, we would be very competitive around the league.

I would disagree. other then myself and a few others. a ton of people on here seemingly have a hate for Hoffman for no reason. Even when his scoring was one of the top 10 in the league, people were saying he was useless and to trade him and weren't giving him the credit he deserves. He may be on a slump but he is still our top scorer. He's had chemistry with Ryan and yet they split them up right when they were playing their best.

I doubt his attitude is perfect and i don't blame him. I would be frustrated too. Last year the team said "prove it" and this year he came out scoring like crazy, really rounded out defensively and just his over all game has improved, everything was going great and he was on pace to get the contract that he proved himself for.

Then random line changes happened, injuries and reduced ice time and power play time for no reason, his production dropped (along with the entire team) and everyone seems to be blaming him.

I'm not saying he is perfect but people need to cut him some slack. He is our only depth on LW and deserves a commitment from management because he is our 1LW and our top scorer and if we don't then he can basically go anywhere, i'm sure he will have offers.

Personally I would much rather be proactive and positive and say why not sign him long term, and go out and try to get a legit #1C for him to work with and a #2LW to play behind him.

Imagine a top line of Hoffman - Duchene - Ryan. With the amount of speed and scoring power, we would be very competitive around the league.
- Maverick1818

I'm not hating on Hoffman but I am also not blindly devoted either. Take last night, he couldn't stop himself from getting offside. Now I know lots of players do this but is it really that hard to check the position of your team mate before crossing the blue line? That being said he is our top scorer and I don't think the line changes have helped at all. But as I said previously we don't know what his attitude is like and we can't assume he only has a bad attitude because of his treatment. It might very well be because of this attitude he is getting the treatment he is.