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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 25 @ 5:35 PM ET
I disagree with Tanner. Boedker will get more. If its as simple as a 3rd and a C prospect, it might give me pause for a second. I still don't see how an extension can be hammered out, even for 4.2 (he will command more). There is virtually nothing coming off the books as far as UFAs and I don't see the cap going up much to allow us to sign him. Thank the value of the Canadian dollar.
- Oneonta Penguin


i agree here. i'd be shocked if boedker, flaws and all, doesnt get more than that. I'd be even more shocked if he signs a deal at 4 and change. think his deal will start with 5. which the pens realistically can't do.
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Feb 25 @ 5:36 PM ET
I don't think so. Flower's rebound control has been on point this season and he hasn't been sniped too often. Murray's biggest flaw while he was up was rebound control.
- Victoro311


His biggest problem was communication with his D in general I think. He was bad at stopping, leaving, passing, clearing pucks behind the net and the rebound control is probably part of not knowing where to put the puck in what situations. His puck stopping ability is already at NHL starter level though. He needs to practice and play with NHL players to take the next step I think.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 25 @ 7:35 PM ET
Pouliot rust cole for Russell. Drop some serious dead weight off the roster for a player that would come in and make an instant impact and help in thhe playoffs.
jmy_1
Joined: 01.30.2014

Feb 25 @ 7:51 PM ET
Ladd to Chicago.....here it goes
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
Ladd to Chicago.....here it goes
- jmy_1

Boedker should take off in the next 24 hours.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 8:13 PM ET
Pouliot rust cole for Russell. Drop some serious dead weight off the roster for a player that would come in and make an instant impact and help in thhe playoffs.
- Grinder47


Lol i thought I've read some dumb poop before but this is pretty damn high up there. Well done.
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 8:14 PM ET
Ladd to Chicago.....here it goes
- jmy_1


Pretty expensive rental... Glad we don't have the pieces to pull this off.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 25 @ 8:14 PM ET
Chicago isnt scared. Dont be a wussy Ruth.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 8:17 PM ET
Boedker to pens e10
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Feb 25 @ 8:18 PM ET
Ok over/under on when Ladd goes and starts the dominoes?

I'm saying Saturday night

- nh4442

Martox won with the closest time of Saturday at 19:30:21
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Feb 25 @ 8:19 PM ET
Lol i thought I've read some dumb poop before but this is pretty damn high up there. Well done.
- Pens_Burgh

Coles terrible, replace rust with the next guy that can skate, and we dont have to wait for po boy to never develope. Winning.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:19 PM ET
Well the Hawks have destroyed the trade market with that dumb move. What an overpayment. Dano alone is too much.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 25 @ 8:22 PM ET
Boedker to pens e10
- nh4442



Nope ... if that was the cost for Ladd and Peg paying some of that money for Chicago, we don't have the assets for Boedker. Not a chance. That is way too much for Ladd.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
Well the Hawks have destroyed the trade market with that dumb move. What an overpayment. Dano alone is too much.
- Dcoms


Hawks are winning cups. They understand that there window is now and are doing what needs to be done to take advantage of it.

sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
I could have gotten down with Kunitz for Dano. Play Dano in top 6 and just take your first or second round playoff loss and add a young top 9 forward.

Ladd seems silly expensive, but I do think Blackhawks are primed to win it this year. Stat line on Ladd is 17 goals 17 assists, kunitz 11 goals 17 assists (though Kunitz plays with crosby).

Prices seem silly this year I hope we buy nothing. 3rd round for 8th defenseman. Nearly NHL ready top 9 forward prospect who showed goal scoring ability at 20 years old and a 1st round pick for a top 6 LW whose putting up like 25 goals and not many assists.

Maybe we should just sell and stock up for next year.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 8:27 PM ET
I could have gotten down with Kunitz for Dano. Play Dano in top 6 and just take your first or second round playoff loss and add a young top 9 forward.

Ladd seems silly expensive, but I do think Blackhawks are primed to win it this year. Stat line on Ladd is 17 goals 17 assists, kunitz 11 goals 17 assists (though Kunitz plays with crosby).

Prices seem silly this year I hope we buy nothing. 3rd round for 8th defenseman. Nearly NHL ready top 9 forward prospect who showed goal scoring ability at 20 years old and a 1st round pick for a top 6 LW whose putting up like 25 goals and not many assists.

Maybe we should just sell and stock up for next year.

- sditulli


If you're only bringing up points, you don't understand why Ladd is so valuable.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
What's funny is Shero was good at trades only, his drafting suck as and ability to get ufas to come play with Sid and Geno sucked. While Ruth sucks at trades (he's 50-50 on deals imo) but his ability to get better ufas here and drafting is great...


Out of all those high priced rentals the pens got, Duper is the only one who stayed and he was a throw in! That is why I kind of want to stay away from UFA rentals. Yet I want Boedker and versteeg lol

- nh4442

Shero wasn't that bad at drafting, he wasn't good either but he had a few strong years like 2012(Pouliot, Maatta, Bluegers, Sundqvist, Murray, Maquire, Seymour, Zlobin.) Zlobin is not happening but the rest have played in the NHL or have a decent shot to. Maquire should be graduating this year along with Bluegers and will be in WBS next year. Seymour is a 50/ 50 guy who needs to improve in a lot of areas but has gotten better every year since being drafted.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:30 PM ET
PA can be had for super cheap especially because Toronto helping us essentially helps them get a 1st round pick. I'd be surprised if he costs us a 2nd with the 1st rounder implications from the kessel trade.
- j.boyd919

If another team offers a 2nd for PAP there is no way Toronto is going to give him to us for a 3rd just so they get a sure first. They are better off rolling the dice on that one.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 25 @ 8:33 PM ET
I don't remember all the particulars of the Saad trade, but correct me if I'm wrong, they turned Saad into a couple of months of Ladd? Yikes.

Sharp into Suckderi. Good thing they've won some cups because that is tragic asset management.

Forgot about AA.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:33 PM ET
I honestly think the first Domino is Boedker to Chicago. I think that's Chicago's #1 target. I think Peg is holding out waiting on that deal to fall through to see if Chicago circles back around to Ladd. Cus it seems like Peg already has a couple of overpayments lined up for Ladd and it perplexes me they haven't taken the money and ran yet
- Victoro311

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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:35 PM ET
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- Dcoms

I am shtoopid
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
On Pouliot - People who say he hasn't lived up to his draft spot and is a bust are idiots. Shero reached on Pouliot. He's not a bust because he's developing fine for a guy who was probably more of a 13-20 draft pick. He's not a stud at 21, but he's showing some good characteristics. At his age and what most evaluators thought of him going into the draft (Besides Shero) being a 3rd offensive dman with very good possession stats, but some defensive lapses is perfectly fine. He's better than Depres at his age or Joe Morrow or probably even goligoski. He has plenty of time to get the defensive miscues out of his system and be a solid 2nd pairing guy at 23 who creates offensive and drives possession.

He's developing right inline with what you want out of a mid 1st round pick. Yes we should have taken forsberg, but that is on shero not pouliot.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:37 PM ET
I don't remember all the particulars of the Saad trade, but correct me if I'm wrong, they turned Saad into a couple of months of Ladd? Yikes.

Sharp into Suckderi. Good thing they've won some cups because that is tragic asset management.

Forgot about AA.

- madmike71


Anismov also who is part of the best line in hockey.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Feb 25 @ 8:38 PM ET
I'll probably get skewered for this, but what about Prout? Probably wouldn't get on the ice every game but would be nice when playing bigger teams. The Cbus blog says he could be had for cheap.

Plus.... It would make Grinder happy.

By the way... To all the Lovejoy haters I hate to say I told you so. Not the greatest player in the world, but Pouliot and Cole is a nightmare.

- madmike71

No we need hockey players only, and why would you want to make that troglodyte happy?
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Feb 25 @ 8:38 PM ET
I don't remember all the particulars of the Saad trade, but correct me if I'm wrong, they turned Saad into a couple of months of Ladd? Yikes.

Sharp into Suckderi. Good thing they've won some cups because that is tragic asset management.

- madmike71


They turned Saad into Anisimov, Dano
Sharp into Scuds and caps space
Dano and cap space into Ladd

This is perfect asset management for a team taking advantage of their window.
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