wow - I think the arthur needs to take a nap.
- akermack

You guys are missing the point....

The fact that you are obsessing over an article written by a member of the Toronto media is just sad. If someone in Buffalo wrote an article about the Leafs' current tank job, no one in Toronto would care

But you guys are getting all worked up about this. Textbook inferiority complex
- AxlRose91

As well as some in the Toronto media referring to the Leafs current tank job as "Tanking with integrity"

You guys are missing the point....

The fact that you are obsessing over an article written by a member of the Toronto media is just sad. If someone in Buffalo wrote an article about the Leafs' current tank job, no one in Toronto would care

But you guys are getting all worked up about this. Textbook inferiority complex
- AxlRose91

And yet... here you are...

- ImThatGuy

Eggzactly

wow - I think the arthur needs to take a nap.
- akermack

I'm not sure who Arthur is. Care to elaborate?

did you watch hockey last season when half the media ripped buffalo for their tank job?
- homiedclown

I don't listen to the Toronto sports media, no. As has been pointed out numerous times here, they are absolutely terrible. You shouldn't take any notice of what they say. They are willing to call a player's mother to inquire about her son's injury. Not worth the time to listen or read their opinions

"why don't you grow up"

"easy for you to say, you don't have 50 pair of short pants in your closet"

Bigger fish to fry.
- Sabresfan-365

I don't listen to the Toronto sports media, no. As has been pointed out numerous times here, they are absolutely terrible. You shouldn't take any notice of what they say. They are willing to call a player's mother to inquire about her son's injury. Not worth the time to listen or read their opinions
- walshyleafsfan

this was national, not local

Anyone who listens to the Toronto media deserves to be this worked up regarding the Leafs.

The Leafs are irrelevant, have been for 50 odd years, they shouldn't be getting blogs on Hockeybuzz. I'm perplexed as to why a Buffalo blogger wasted time writing about the Leafs.
- walshyleafsfan

Slow down there 50 years of irrelevancy. Leafs were a legit contender in the early 90's - maybe even a favorite if you consider a favorite to be one of the top 5 teams in the league.

In the mid/late 90's the Leafs had another decent run. I wouldn't consider them top 5 in the league like in the Gilmour days, but the Sundin/Mogilny days were legit.

The truth is that the Leafs had a strategy before the salary cap era. They always traded youth and picks for vets. And they always signed vets as UFA. They ALWAYS(almost) made the playoffs and they had a few stints in the 90's where they were a top team.

When the salary cap and ELC(rookie contracts) came in - the Leafs were left bare with no real prospects, no high picks and no elite young players. It's been 10 years but we are now recovering from the pain of our own strategy - that used to work.

the postman was a very under rated movie
- homiedclown

Hello Indy!
- Der Kaiser

HI

I'm not sure who Arthur is. Care to elaborate?
- HonkFortheGoose

I'm not sure who Arthur is. Care to elaborate?
- HonkFortheGoose

- dadeadhead

I'm not sure who Arthur is. Care to elaborate?
- HonkFortheGoose

I think he just made a mistake and meant to type "author."

Or it could be that he's from New Jersey.

this was national, not local
- homiedclown

Christ. I listen to them even less. Have no interest what's going on out west

Slow down there 50 years of irrelevancy. Leafs were a legit contender in the early 90's - maybe even a favorite if you consider a favorite to be one of the top 5 teams in the league.

In the mid/late 90's the Leafs had another decent run. I wouldn't consider them top 5 in the league like in the Gilmour days, but the Sundin/Mogilny days were legit.

The truth is that the Leafs had a strategy before the salary cap era. They always traded youth and picks for vets. And they always signed vets as UFA. They ALWAYS(almost) made the playoffs and they had a few stints in the 90's where they were a top team.

When the salary cap and ELC(rookie contracts) came in - the Leafs were left bare with no real prospects, no high picks and no elite young players. It's been 10 years but we are now recovering from the pain of our own strategy - that used to work.
- Allan Bester

I'm just following the rhetoric

Slow down there 50 years of irrelevancy. Leafs were a legit contender in the early 90's - maybe even a favorite if you consider a favorite to be one of the top 5 teams in the league.

In the mid/late 90's the Leafs had another decent run. I wouldn't consider them top 5 in the league like in the Gilmour days, but the Sundin/Mogilny days were legit.

The truth is that the Leafs had a strategy before the salary cap era. They always traded youth and picks for vets. And they always signed vets as UFA. They ALWAYS(almost) made the playoffs and they had a few stints in the 90's where they were a top team.

When the salary cap and ELC(rookie contracts) came in - the Leafs were left bare with no real prospects, no high picks and no elite young players. It's been 10 years but we are now recovering from the pain of our own strategy - that used to work.
- Allan Bester

It did? The only thing that really matters at the end of the day are Stanley Cups. Of which you haven't won since before the Sabres came into the league.

I know, I know. The Sabres don't have any either. But I'm also not sitting here saying that our strategy over the past 2 decades used to "work" either.

Johnston calls Toronto's moves "smart and savvy" in regards to their trade deadline approach but even more impressive is how they managed to hoodwink hockey north with a PR campaign that has the full backing of the national media in Canada.

Toronto based media all deserve to be beaten into metaphorical submission...

Toronto media all deserve to be beaten into metaphorical submission...
- kaptaan

The media in Buffalo isn't any better.

As a matter of fact, most of the media these days are just awful.

There's no clear, obvious line between tanking and rebuilding. IMO, it's more a question of emphasis. Trades designed primarily to make the team less competitive in the short term to secure a better draft pick seems more like tanking.

Trades designed primarily to acquire picks, prospects or cap space to be used to improve the team over the longer term seems more like rebuilding. Obviously these kind of trades tend to do both so it's a judgement call.

The Leafs have been very focussed on draft and development and the hiring of Mark Hunter reflects the value they put on drafting. The lottery system doesn't guarantee anything and there's no McDavid in this year's draft so the value of finishing last is not that significant.

The media in Buffalo isn't any better.

As a matter of fact, most of the media these days are just awful.
- HonkFortheGoose

i updated my post to refer to all toronto based media... that would include so-called 'national media' who live in toronto...

There's no clear, obvious line between tanking and rebuilding. IMO, it's more a question of emphasis. Trades designed primarily to make the team less competitive in the short term to secure a better draft pick seems more like tanking.

Trades designed primarily to acquire picks, prospects or cap space to be used to improve the team over the longer term seems more like rebuilding. Obviously these kind of trades tend to do both so it's a judgement call.

The Leafs have been very focussed on draft and development and the hiring of Mark Hunter reflects the value they put on drafting. The lottery system doesn't guarantee anything and there's no McDavid in this year's draft so the value of finishing last is not that significant.
- Canada Cup

This is a distinction without a difference.