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AlfieFever
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
Sabres lose to TO, in the 19th round of the shootout, only after Lerner is found at the concession stand.
- LandlordTom


bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
Nobody is forgetting that Edmonton is the king of tanking. Buffalo and Arizona are probably a distant second after last year, and Toronto is rapidly catching up.

Tanking has been done by many, many teams. The issue here is Toronto's hypocrisy in denying what they're doing after they've taken so many other teams to the woodshed for it. What Toronto has done so far this season is literally almost identical to what Buffalo did last year, and yet they call it, "Losing with dignity" while they called us, "An embarrassment to the league"

- sskkoo1


I'm quite surprised how well Arizona is doing this year. Their rookies have similar numbers to ours and we have arguably better players... Bit of a head scratcher...

Then again I didn't expect Carolina or New Jersey to be anywhere close to the playoffs so...
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
Hey, what about us OILERS, we are the champions of tanking!
- cdjaakkola

Be
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...look at the first letters of each word...I can't bold from phone.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:29 PM ET
That's funny because I saw a lot of buffalo fans trolling leaf blogs about trading low key players and now a blog about it. Yes it reeks of jealously and hatred. Leafs are last place and I'm on a high horse apparently. We're dead last with them on our team or not. Toronto's been bad for years and now that they are a bottom 3 team and guaranteed a good pick its only natural for other fans to complain about the leafs and the one positive they have
- bmoney411


Again, my issue isn't with what is being done within the organization. I've said it probably a dozen times now. I get the process. My issue isn't jealousy or hatred. It's frustration over how most Toronto fans were screaming about how much of a disgrace Buffalo was to the NHL last year but yet this year, when your team is doing the SAME THING, it's fine and there's no issue with it.

What your doing isn't the problem, it's how you view it in comparison to what Buffalo did last year.

I'm not sure how many more ways I can say it so that you finally understand that.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Nobody is forgetting that Edmonton is the king of tanking. Buffalo and Arizona are probably a distant second after last year, and Toronto is rapidly catching up.

Tanking has been done by many, many teams. The issue here is Toronto's hypocrisy in denying what they're doing after they've taken so many other teams to the woodshed for it. What Toronto has done so far this season is literally almost identical to what Buffalo did last year, and yet they call it, "Losing with dignity" while they called us, "An embarrassment to the league"

- sskkoo1

Maybe your definition of tanking just means being bad?
Cause for sure there would be a ton of teams included in that

Oilers tore it down and started selling assets deadline 2010.
Got hall
Tanked all 2011
Got nuge

Actually tried to win beyond that (started actually signing free agents - secondary ones- but they were the only ones that would come) and never actually finished last again. They just won the lottery twice

Sabres tore it down 2014
Got reinhart
Tanked all 2015
Got eichel

Actually trying to win now...
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Feb 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Dude. Your team is TRYING TO LOSE... OPEN YOUR EYES!!!!!
- bluengold12



My eyes are wide open and the Leafs suck.

Open your heart to the Leafs.
Wendel17Clark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.16.2013

Feb 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
"Leaf jealousy"? Is there such a thing?
I think you missed the entire point of this write up. He was comparing the Sabres last year to the Leafs this year. Saying that the Canadian media bashed the Sabres for the same thing the Leafs are doing right now but the Canadian media looks the other way when the Leafs are doing it. I really wouldn't call that jealousy.

- doppelthat

bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Maybe your definition of tanking just means being bad?
Cause for there would be a ton of teams included in that

Oilers tore it down and started selling assets deadline 2010.
Got hall
Tanked all 2011
Got nuge

Actually tried to win beyond that and never s really finished last

Sabres tore it down 2014
Got reinhart
Tanked all 2015
Got eichel

Actually trying to win now...

- HB77


What about the year you got Yak?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:33 PM ET

- homiedclown


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
I expect the worst right now, sabres picking 6 or 7
- homiedclown


Eh. Not much of a discrepancy between 4-10.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Maybe your definition of tanking just means being bad?
Cause for there would be a ton of teams included in that

Oilers tore it down and started selling assets deadline 2010.
Got hall
Tanked all 2011
Got nuge

Actually tried to win beyond that and never s really finished last

Sabres tore it down 2014
Got reinhart
Tanked all 2015
Got eichel

Actually trying to win now...

- HB77


I get what you're saying, but the main difference here, is that Hall and Nuge are both #1 overalls. Reinhart and Eichel are both #2s.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Well done Michael. Write "Leafs", throw in a subtle accusation, watch the funnies flow in.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Feb 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Plus your goalies suck so good luck finding trade partners for them
- bluengold12



so the Leafs aren't trying to tank since both goalies suck.
one will be moved me thinks.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:35 PM ET
Again, my issue isn't with what is being done within the organization. I've said it probably a dozen times now. I get the process. My issue isn't jealousy or hatred. It's frustration over how most Toronto fans were screaming about how much of a disgrace Buffalo was to the NHL last year but yet this year, when your team is doing the SAME THING, it's fine and there's no issue with it.

What your doing isn't the problem, it's how you view it in comparison to what Buffalo did last year.

I'm not sure how many more ways I can say it so that you finally understand that.

- HonkFortheGoose



He understands perfectly well, he just chooses not to accept what you're telling him.

And, as for the jealous he keeps talking about, what is there to be jealous of exactly? Nobody would swap Eichel, Reinhart, or Risto for anything in the Leafs organization. This ridiculous concept that Marner and Nylander already have a cup locked up is astounding.
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
My eyes are wide open and the Leafs suck.

Open your heart to the Leafs.

- zazzle


The leafs suck on purpose though. Big difference from just sucking because of talent. If the management wanted to they could be a middle of the pack team this year but they are tanking just like many others before them have.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
Your article reeks of Leaf jealousy, wow.

I'm a Leaf fan and have no issue whatsoever with what Buffalo did last year.

- charlieb83


This is the greatest thing I've read in months.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:36 PM ET
What about the year you got Yak?
- bluengold12

They didn't finish last. They won the lottery
But they were very bad nonetheless

After drafting nuge, Actually started signing what they saw as quality secondary free agents and attempting to take steps forward
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
What about the year you got Yak?
- bluengold12


I think you missed his point. It was about the tear down and successive year of being bad. Then the process of trying to be better, but it not being as much progress as you'd like.

We're kind of right there too. The comparison is pretty well thought out. The main difference is that they got 2 #1s and we ended up with 2 #2s.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Spot on, Boosie. I personally look forward to the time when the Sabres and Leafs are both firing on all cylinders again. I really miss that rivalry meaning something.
- nfph


^this times a gazillion^
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
Eh. Not much of a discrepancy between 4-10.
- TheSabresTaco


Disagree. There's a minor drop off after Tkachuk at four and an even bigger one after the two D's and Nylander at 7.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
The leafs suck on purpose though. Big difference from just sucking because of talent. If the management wanted to they could be a middle of the pack team this year but they are tanking just like many others before them have.
- bluengold12



So you're accusing the players of going out and playing bad just to help the cause? I find that very hard to believe.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:38 PM ET
I think you missed his point. It was about the tear down and successive year of being bad. Then the process of trying to be better, but it not being as much progress as you'd like.

We're kind of right there too. The comparison is pretty well thought out. The main difference is that they got 2 #1s and we ended up with 2 #2s.

- HonkFortheGoose



Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
Eh. Not much of a discrepancy between 4-10.
- TheSabresTaco


There may not be much of a discrepancy, but some of us want to know, is there a distinction or a difference?
bluengold12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.19.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
So you're accusing the players of going out and playing bad just to help the cause? I find that very hard to believe.
- HonkFortheGoose



No....... I said the roster sucks on purpose just like the Sabres did last year. Not the players trying to lose. The formation of the players.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Feb 23 @ 1:40 PM ET
I think you missed his point. It was about the tear down and successive year of being bad. Then the process of trying to be better, but it not being as much progress as you'd like.

We're kind of right there too. The comparison is pretty well thought out. The main difference is that they got 2 #1s and we ended up with 2 #2s.

- HonkFortheGoose



Id make the argument that our tear down began in 12-13. I mean if it was a full season we probably end up somewhere in the bottom 5 or even 3.
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