Seguin was limited to no points and one shot on net. Seguin skated almost 10 minutes against Chara and didn’t land a shot on net in that time.

I hate fancy stats, but to prove a point, Seguin’s Corsi For against Chara was just 35.3. Benn was at 40.0 Corsi For against Chara

Also the question I had asked is still unanswered. What is either Mixturebill or Felger (starting to think its the same guy) expecting to get in return? Do you think you will deal him and get a younger top shelf defenseman in return?

Spolier: You won't. You probably retain salary and you'll get picks, prospects and/or some sort of 'roster guy" i.e. John Micheal Liles or Jordan Caron for example.

So you get some "what ifs" and dead money against the cap for next season. Rather keep him and see if you can get him some help by moving Eriksson and the picks.

Seguin was limited to no points and one shot on net. Seguin skated almost 10 minutes against Chara and didn’t land a shot on net in that time.

I hate fancy stats, but to prove a point, Seguin’s Corsi For against Chara was just 35.3. Benn was at 40.0 Corsi For against Chara
- MrBeanTown

Stats are for the birds.... just watch the (frank)ing game. Those fancy stats are bullpoop because there are 5 other players on the ice. Chara doesn't generate those numbers single handedly... it's the team shutting down those guys... Seguin and Benn skated circles around Chara, and he was lucky enough that he had one of those 5 other players bailing him out.

But you're probably right... CHARA SINGLE HANDEDLY DEFENDED THE ENTIRE DALLAS STARS INTO OBLIVION BECAUSE HE IS THE BESSSSSTTTTT!!!!!

Stats are for the birds.... just watch the (frank)ing game. Those fancy stats are bullpoop because there are 5 other players on the ice. Chara doesn't generate those numbers single handedly... it's the team shutting down those guys... Seguin and Benn skated circles around Chara, and he was lucky enough that he had one of those 5 other players bailing him out.

But you're probably right... CHARA SINGLE HANDEDLY DEFENDED THE ENTIRE DALLAS STARS INTO OBLIVION BECAUSE HE IS THE BESSSSSTTTTT!!!!!
- mixturebill

Come back when you have something interesting to talk about.

Stats are for the birds.... just watch the (frank)ing game. Those fancy stats are bullpoop because there are 5 other players on the ice. Chara doesn't generate those numbers single handedly... it's the team shutting down those guys... Seguin and Benn skated circles around Chara, and he was lucky enough that he had one of those 5 other players bailing him out.

But you're probably right... CHARA SINGLE HANDEDLY DEFENDED THE ENTIRE DALLAS STARS INTO OBLIVION BECAUSE HE IS THE BESSSSSTTTTT!!!!!
- mixturebill

You're right, it must be those 7 bottom pairing/ahl defenseman the Bruins have iced this year keeping the Bruins in contention for the Atlantic. No possible way it could be due to the future hall of famer back there.

Have you considered yet that maybe you're wrong? Chara played 25 min primarily matched up against the best scoring line in the NHL and stifled them for the most part. 1 point for the duo that averages over 2 pts per game combined. By all metrics (Coaches opinions, fancy stats, normal stats) hes performing affably as a top pair D man, especially when you consider the help he has around him. Just because he's not aesthetically pleasing to watch does not mean he's a bad player. He needs a partner that can help him not drag him down. Also, hes a fantastic mentor to keep around to help develop the kids. Hes not going anywhere so please stop beating this dead horse
- Shaundre93

Amen!

Also the question I had asked is still unanswered. What is either Mixturebill or Felger (starting to think its the same guy) expecting to get in return? Do you think you will deal him and get a younger top shelf defenseman in return?

Spolier: You won't. You probably retain salary and you'll get picks, prospects and some sort of 'roster guy" i.e. John Micheal Liles or Jordan Caron for example.

So you get some "what ifs" and dead money against the cap for next season. Rather keep him and see if you can get him some help by moving Eriksson and the picks.
- glove_was_stuck

Let me just say what you want me to say, "I think we should trade Chara for Drew Doughty... that would be a good move." Now go ahead and tell me how big of an idiot I am for thinking they can trade Chara for Doughty... that's what you want, isn't it?

Haha dude, I literally just answered your specific question in my last post.... I said I don't think you would be able to get a great return for him, but I don't think that should matter. I think they should take whatever USEFUL pieces they can get for him and move on. Any deal comes with the relief of his cap hit and horrendous defense, and that's enough for me... anything else is a bonus.

I don't listen to Felger because I can't stand that (frank)ing guy. But if he's slamming Chara, then at least he's right on this point.

Two can play this game...

What is glove_was_stuck or Dale Arnold (starting to think it's the same guy) expecting Chara to do? Magically regrow his knee and become the Norris winner he was in 2009 and lead the team to another Stanley Cup? (yeah by the way, Chara is 7 seasons removed from winning the Norris)

Ohh if you trade Loui you'll probably get picks or prospects or some other "roster guy" i.e. Bryan Bickell or Zack Kassian.

Do you think Chara will lead this team to another cup? Spoiler: He won't

Okay, petty imitation over....

Look, I know they aren't going to be able to move Chara, but a dude can wish can't he? The thing I dont understand is why the hell do you want to keep Chara and trade Loui... Loui is more important to this team than Chara is... now and especially in the future.

I'm just so sick of seeing people saying "yeah Chara is the best! He is so great! He is the best defender ever! I'm so glad we have Chara right now!"

For (frank)s sake Chara, just break your other goddamn knee and end all of this.

You're right, it must be those 7 bottom pairing/ahl defenseman the Bruins have iced this year keeping the Bruins in contention for the Atlantic. No possible way it could be due to the future hall of famer back there.
- Shaundre93

Right... because Seidenberg, Krug, and McQuaid are all bottom pairing/AHL defenseman.

Let me just say what you want me to say, "I think we should trade Chara for Drew Doughty... that would be a good move." Now go ahead and tell me how big of an idiot I am for thinking they can trade Chara for Doughty... that's what you want, isn't it?

Haha dude, I literally just answered your specific question in my last post.... I said I don't think you would be able to get a great return for him, but I don't think that should matter. I think they should take whatever USEFUL pieces they can get for him and move on. Any deal comes with the relief of his cap hit and horrendous defense, and that's enough for me... anything else is a bonus.

I don't listen to Felger because I can't stand that (frank)ing guy. But if he's slamming Chara, then at least he's right on this point.

Two can play this game...

What is glove_was_stuck or Dale Arnold (starting to think it's the same guy) expecting Chara to do? Magically regrow his knee and become the Norris winner he was in 2009 and lead the team to another Stanley Cup? (yeah by the way, Chara is 7 seasons removed from winning the Norris)

Ohh if you trade Loui you'll probably get picks or prospects or some other "roster guy" i.e. Bryan Bickell or Zack Kassian.

Do you think Chara will lead this team to another cup? Spoiler: He won't

Okay, petty imitation over....

Look, I know they aren't going to be able to move Chara, but a dude can wish can't he? The thing I dont understand is why the hell do you want to keep Chara and trade Loui... Loui is more important to this team than Chara is... now and especially in the future.

I'm just so sick of seeing people saying "yeah Chara is the best! He is so great! He is the best defender ever! I'm so glad we have Chara right now!"

For (frank)s sake Chara, just break your other goddamn knee and end all of this.
- mixturebill

Dale...(frank)ing Ned Flanders






Nobody is on here saying Chara is the best. Most of us see it realistically with him that he's lost a step. He is still serviceable but management needs to get him some help.

As for Eriksson, you're wrong. Last week someone on here mentioned dealing with Minnesota. Now that they've made a coaching change and with the emergence of Smith on their D core you may be able to swing a deal.

I would start Eriksson and a 2nd for Marco Scandella. Maybe that doesn't work. But present an argument without being a (frank)ing Richard. You'll get better responses.

Have you considered yet that maybe you're wrong? Chara played 25 min primarily matched up against the best scoring line in the NHL and stifled them for the most part. 1 point for the duo that averages over 2 pts per game combined. By all metrics (Coaches opinions, fancy stats, normal stats) hes performing affably as a top pair D man, especially when you consider the help he has around him. Just because he's not aesthetically pleasing to watch does not mean he's a bad player. He needs a partner that can help him not drag him down. Also, hes a fantastic mentor to keep around to help develop the kids. Hes not going anywhere so please stop beating this dead horse
- Shaundre93

You know, I have considered that I could be wrong. I really have considered it, but I honestly just don't feel that way. The sad thing is, there is absolutely no way to prove my point unless Chara actually does get traded, or is injured and misses time.

I don't know where you guys dig up your fancy stats, but I wish there was a way to actually WATCH the 10 minutes that Chara played against Seguin and Benn. Like a gamecenter thing that allows you to check a box and say "show me only time where Chara is on the ice." Because stats aren't everything, but it's the thing that everyone points back to. To me those stats don't matter, because I WATCH Chara get blasted on almost every shift he plays. At this point, Chara is the one that's dragging people down. If you don't agree with me... that's fine. But I'm entitled to my opinion, just as you, or anyone else on this thread is.

I don't think Chara is as bad as some say, but he isn't close to being as important as others say.

I mean, seriously. He was on the ice for 9 straight goals through THREE games. He was on the ice, or made a bad change for, two of those goals against Dallas.

That's NOT a top pairing guy. And I agree, if we traded him, I have no idea who would replace him, how we would look, OR even who would take him and for what........

But, in a nutshell this team has WAY too many "role players." Connolly, Hayes, Beleskey are all role players, but should be in the bottom SIX on a solid team. Think Kelly, Ryder and Pevs..........that's what those three guys are.

We HOARD roles players though and overvalue them.

Where is Griffith and Vatrano supposed to play? That's how we had Cap and development issues in the past. We hold role players INSTEAD or turning them over and playing the KIDS.

And on D..........how is this team going to look NEXT season?
Chara and Seidenberg a year older (likely more of a drop off),
Krug has been a pretty good player (but, again with his size he is a bottom pairing guy or a second pair with a solid 3),
Miller and Quaider are still bottom pair grit guys (maybe fill in for an injury on the second pair),
Morrow, C. Miller, and Trotman.........still don't get enough playing time so who the hell really knows!

Even if we sign the best avalible D-man FA (not even sure who it would be)........this team is still in a bad bad spot.

And for the record. I still don't see how they sign Eriksson for more than THREE years and not get into cap trouble in a couple years.

Dale...(frank)ing Ned Flanders






Nobody is on here saying Chara is the best. Most of us see it realistically with him that he's lost a step. He is still serviceable but management needs to get him some help.

As for Eriksson, you're wrong. Last week someone on here mentioned dealing with Minnesota. Now that they've made a coaching change and with the emergence of Smith on their D core you may be able to swing a deal.

I would start Eriksson and a 2nd for Marco Scandella. Maybe that doesn't work. But present an argument without being a (frank)ing Richard. You'll get better responses.
- glove_was_stuck

Holy poop that tag for that photo is ridiculous!

We can agree to disagree on Eriksson... that's cool.
Honestly, the trade you mentioned I would be totally cool with. I don't want to lose Loui, but if it's for Scandella and a 2nd... that hurts way less. I could accept that.

Thanks for the advice... Next time I want to bag on Chara... I'll try a different approach.

Holy poop that tag for that photo is ridiculous!

We can agree to disagree on Eriksson... that's cool.
Honestly, the trade you mentioned I would be totally cool with. I don't want to lose Loui, but if it's for Scandella and a 2nd... that hurts way less. I could accept that.

Thanks for the advice... Next time I want to bag on Chara... I'll try a different approach.
- mixturebill

No, he is saying Eriksson AND a 2nd for Scandella. Hard pass on that one.


And stick with your current approach. I like it better. Everyone else is to naive to think Chara is still an elite defenseman, including Ty going back to a previous blog (forget which one). Offence has never been the issue for Chara. It's the fact that he is lost at all times in his own end, and costs this team goal after goal. More than Kevan Miller, as bad as it may seem. You find a way to get rid of Chara, you can keep Loui and extend him, extend marchand, and have 2 legitimate scoring lines for at least the next 3 years. On a cap strapped team like the Bruins, there is absolutely no room for Chara

You guys see what Polak and Spaling got the Leafs from SJ? And those guys suck.

Supposedly Winnipeg has already gotten an offer of a first and a prospect for Ladd.

So, Eriksson should be able to fetch us something decent.

Holy poop that tag for that photo is ridiculous!

We can agree to disagree on Eriksson... that's cool.
Honestly, the trade you mentioned I would be totally cool with. I don't want to lose Loui, but if it's for Scandella and a 2nd... that hurts way less. I could accept that.

Thanks for the advice... Next time I want to bag on Chara... I'll try a different approach.
- mixturebill

Yeah thanks Google and yeah you had it right. Typo on my part. That would be Eriksson for Scandella and a second.

Or keep being Richard. Either way, TS19 thinks you're cool and he's the man. So you got that going for ya

You guys see what Polak and Spaling got the Leafs from SJ? And those guys suck.

Supposedly Winnipeg has already gotten an offer of a first and a prospect for Ladd.

So, Eriksson should be able to fetch us something decent.
- JIwasinskiJr

Well let's see what TS19 thinks. Can't wait.

Yeah thanks Google and yeah you had it right. Typo on my part. That would be Eriksson for Scandella and a second.

Or keep being Richard. Either way, TS19 thinks you're cool and he's the man. So you got that going for ya
- glove_was_stuck

I just picked up Scandella in a keeper league for Andrew Shaw and a prospect

Right... because Seidenberg, Krug, and McQuaid are all bottom pairing/AHL defenseman.
- mixturebill

On a cup caliber team? I wouldn't be so sure... Krug may be the exception, I'm not sure if he's a top 4 yet on a good team

I just picked up Scandella in a keeper league for Andrew Shaw and a prospect
- mixturebill

Oh well. Fantasy hockey totally translates. Did you bang that girl you been after in Grand Theft Auto as well?

Oh well. Fantasy hockey totally translates. Did you bang that girl you been after in Grand Theft Auto as well?
- glove_was_stuck

Still trying... she wants me to take her out on "dates" first... I was like baby, you know I can just roll on down to the alley way next to the strip club.

Still trying... she wants me to take her out on "dates" first... I was like baby, you know I can just roll on down to the alley way next to the strip club.
- mixturebill