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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
Vinnys last 6 games.....0 G 1 A -4
- Just5


The Winter of Vinny appears to be over.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:27 AM ET
Heckle me all you want but it's still bs.
- TRDevil


It is our board, so we probably will, even if it is just for our own kicks.


By the way, I'd like to introduce you to MJL and superschennbros, just in case you are here because you want to have ongoing conversations.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:28 AM ET
No hearing for Gudas.
- Feanor


I don't think I've ever seen a player rack up this many misconducts and only get suspended one time
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:32 AM ET
Yeah me neither. I would be curious to see if he can move Umberger, MacDonald, Medvedev, or Streit at the trade deadline.
- FlyersGrace


Umberger: No chance
AMac: Even less of a chance than Umberger
Medvedev: likely
Streit: doubtful, due the remaining term and their inability to retain salary. However, he could be moved in the offseason, or, if not, even more likely at next year's deadline.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:33 AM ET
Vinnys last 6 games.....0 G 1 A -4
- Just5


Was a matter of time.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:33 AM ET
I don't think I've ever seen a player rack up this many misconducts and only get suspended one time
- PhillySportsGuy


It actually points to the weaksauce nature of some of the calls that have gone against him. He has done somestupid poop to earn his rep, but the officials have gione overboard on him consistently. (Who says there is no consistency in NHL officialting?)
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:34 AM ET
I don't think I've ever seen a player rack up this many misconducts and only get suspended one time
- PhillySportsGuy


He's getting reputation calls at this point. And it's problematic, whether he gets suspended for these hits or not.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:35 AM ET
I don't think I've ever seen a player rack up this many misconducts and only get suspended one time
- PhillySportsGuy


Yeah, though it would be ludicrous to suspend him for that hit last night. It was a ridiculous overreaction by the ref.

Now, if they want to just sit his dumb ass for a couple of games, I'd have no problem whatsoever with that.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:35 AM ET
Vinnys last 6 games.....0 G 1 A -4
- Just5


Getting Vinny's contract off the books was a miracle. If the Flyers would have landed a prospect to boot it would have been the cherry on top of the sundae. Unfortunately it appears Weal is not going to amount to anything.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:36 AM ET
Vinnys last 6 games.....0 G 1 A -4
- Just5


[over reactionary comment about advanced stats, luck, scheme fit, and his sons ice time]
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 17 @ 10:36 AM ET
He's getting reputation calls at this point. And it's problematic, whether he gets suspended for these hits or not.
- johndewar



He has put himself in the Rinaldo category.

He will lose any benefit of doubt calls. It's not a good position for the Flyers.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
Getting Vinny's contract off the books was a miracle. If the Flyers would have landed a prospect to boot it would have been the cherry on top of the sundae. Unfortunately it appears Weal is not going to amount to anything.
- PLindbergh31


Quite a sample size you're cooking that take on
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
He's getting reputation calls at this point. And it's problematic, whether he gets suspended for these hits or not.
- johndewar


His rep is why I'd look to move him at the deadline. I saw the same thing happen with Glen Cochrane in the early 80s. It got to the point that every time he made contact with an opposing player, he got called for something.

Gudas has no one to blame but himself. When you are constantly going way out of position to make unnecessary hits you are just asking for trouble.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
Quite a sample size you're cooking that take on
- YuenglingJagr


He hasn't played a lot of games, but he wasn't even cracking the lineup.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 17 @ 10:40 AM ET
Flyers next 8 games are against teams who currently are not in the playoffs. If they are going to make a run, now would be the time.
- PLindbergh31


Make a run or let all those teams beat us and pass us in the standings
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 17 @ 10:41 AM ET
(frank) the Rangers
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
It is our board, so we probably will, even if it is just for our own kicks.


By the way, I'd like to introduce you to MJL and superschennbros, just in case you are here because you want to have ongoing conversations.

- Lexington Flyer


Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:43 AM ET
(frank) the Rangers
- jmatchett383


^^^This^^^^ (and the Penguins too.)
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Feb 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
His rep is why I'd look to move him at the deadline. I saw the same thing happen with Glen Cochrane in the early 80s. It got to the point that every time he made contact with an opposing player, he got called for something.

Gudas has no one to blame but himself. When you are constantly going way out of position to make unnecessary hits you are just asking for trouble.

- BiggE


I wouldn't be opposed to moving him at this point, either, depending on what comes back.

Unlike Rinaldo, I do think there is more to Gudas than just questionable hits. He's a better defenseman than Rinaldo was a forward.

You just have to weigh the costs of his penalties versus the good stuff he does.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
His rep is why I'd look to move him at the deadline. I saw the same thing happen with Glen Cochrane in the early 80s. It got to the point that every time he made contact with an opposing player, he got called for something.

Gudas has no one to blame but himself. When you are constantly going way out of position to make unnecessary hits you are just asking for trouble.

- BiggE



I am actually feeling that way.

I love having the physicality back there but not at the expense of penalties and rep calls.

If they move him I would be ok with it. But I would look for some size and physicality in FA(Martin, Weise) or maybe a guy like Dwight King.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
(frank) the Rangers
- jmatchett383


This, always this.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
He hasn't played a lot of games, but he wasn't even cracking the lineup.
- PLindbergh31


They can send him down to the AHL next season and he can play top line minutes until he gets called up. They might be trying to work him up to speed. I dont know. There is a whole mess right now going on with the forwards. Laughton can't crack the lineup some nights that doesnt mean he amounts to nothing
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
Vinnys last 6 games.....0 G 1 A -4
- Just5


The air has left the balloon again?

Just like when he signed here.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:47 AM ET

- YuenglingJagr


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
Make a run or let all those teams beat us and pass us in the standings
- arichardson22


They will probably go something like 4-3-1/3-4-1, so they won't improve their playoff standing, or their draft position.
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